What are Clinton's stances on legal marijuana?

[eloydude]

Bernie's stance is good.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Bernie_Sanders_Drugs.htm

[leftofcool]

1. Compared to other things, I'd say pot is pretty low on Hillary's priority list of important issues

Will Bernie's pot be free for all?

[brooklynite]

3. I'd say it's pretty low on most voters' priority lists as well.

[cali]

11. not to young voters.

[upaloopa]

76. So they can get stoned waiting for their free

college education?

[JTFrog]

111. As opposed to getting drunk off their asses?

[woo me with science]

95. Hillary's empty, cynical claim to care about mass incarceration.

Of course legalizing marijuana is low on her list. It keeps the prisons full. And the "Land of the Free" is now a prison state. Look at the obscene statistics.

And thanks to corporate politicians, imprisoning Americans is now a wildly profitable industry.

Attaching a profit motive to the imprisonment of human beings is evil. Period.

[Bluenorthwest]

21. And yet 4 States have passed recreational legalization with strong majorities of voters.

That pretty much indicates it is more important to voters than you think. Hard to name another issue that has had that much electoral success, particularly if you include Medical Marijuana States.

I would strongly advise any candidate coming out this direction to update their knowledge base and rhetoric and realize they are running in States that have made up their mind on this already. If nothing else they need to keep respect for the voters in mind. O'Malley is the potential candidate who has the roughest past on cannabis. Hillary has no record of being all 'against' and there is plenty to talk about with the processes going on in several States. Being against will not help any candidate in States that have already legalized nor those poised to do so.

[brooklynite]

24. 8% of States...representing less than 8% of national population

I'm not saying that there aren't people who don't care; I'm saying that there aren't enough people who care enough to make it a significant issue in a national election.

[Bluenorthwest]

37. I do not agree. CA has not yet legalized, but that's a matter of time not inclination.

If you really think candidates can sweep through States which have already made or are in the process of making cannabis legal speaking vaguely and discounting the voter's wills then do so.
What I offered to you was advice. I recommend chewing on it rather than assuming it to be wrong. The East Coast is not up to date and candidates should act mindfully. There is not a Democratic vote to be won by opposing cannabis reform, but there are plenty to lose by doing so.

[questionseverything]

42. mj wars have ruined lives for decades

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017266654

this brave family had to leave everything they knew to get their child the help she needed

aren't there still half a million citizens in jail for simple possession?@ 30,000 bucks a year?

geesh my calculator must be wrong because it says thats 15 billion bucks a year to lock up people doing nothing as dangerous as alcohol

not to mention the pay of the dea that worked to bust them or the families they have ruined

[Logical]

67. In other words, this is your excuse when Hillary refuses to address it or state her opinion? nt

[brooklynite]

78. No - this is my cold-hearted political analysis, nothing more...

[RadiationTherapy]

99. Some people are better stationed to withstand an arrest. Some are positioned so well

they don't ever have to worry about spending any time in jail for drugs. So it's not a "national issue" for those coincidentally well-positioned individuals.

[Jesus Malverde]

90. Nailed it again.

The east coast no longer leads anything.

Changing cannabis laws has been one of the hardest fights and gains momentum every month. The laws are key to disenfranchising minority populations, locking people up, taking away benefits, stealing their money through asset forfeiture, killing their pets and storming their houses with no know raids.

Its really a civil rights issue, and key to the excesses we see from police every day.

[Comrade Grumpy]

109. It will be on the ballot in: Arizona, California, Nevada, Maine< Massachusetts, and probably more.

California alone is 12% of the national population.

Marijuana will be an issue in 2016.

[cascadiance]

35. And in Oregon, passing marijuana legalization and vote by mail HELPED Democrats in local races...

... get stronger majorities in the state legislature and senate, and they also came the closest of any state to pass a statewide referendum in labeling GMO products.

And Senator Merkley was the first senator to support marijuana legalization and WON his race handily!

Even Oregon's governor won his race despite a brooding scandal of his wife that ultimately had him resign and the Secretary of State take over as governor after the election.

Also think of what happens if Republicans nominate someone like Rand Paul. If you have a candidate against marijuana legalization, then the youth vote, even if they are misled on a lot of other of Paul's stances as a Libertarian, will be drawn to him over the Dem in that instance.

[Bluenorthwest]

38. Merkley had all that Koch money thrown against him to no avail, 20 point victory while very clearly

supporting legalization.

[B Calm]

23. With our prisons overflowing, I don't agree!

[jwirr]

81. Not to people who need it for medical reasons: like a severely ill child with seizures or someone

with chronic pain etc.

[melman]

96. It shouldn't be

Personal freedom should be important to everyone.

[RobinA]

100. This One Voter

from a swing state is currently looking at not voting for President unless things take a radical turn, e.g. Hilary turns into a liberal, a liberal becomes the candidate. However, a bold stance like pro-MJ, anti-death penalty (to name just two) could make me change my mind. It would indicate not only support for a certain issue that may not be THE world's most important issue, but more importantly, a willingness to take on a controversial issue of some risk that could translate into a willingness to take a risk in the future. In other words, a willingness to do the right thing in the face of opposition. Not something we see a lot of in politicians nowadays.

[TM99]

4. Why?

The legalization of marijuana not only has to do with medical and recreational usage but speaks to the failed War on Drugs in the US. Our excessively high incarceration rates are directly related to this failed war. Bill Clinton jumped in to that war on drugs in the 1990's with a gusto. Hillary did too.

Has she evolved on this issue from the 1990's as well?

Black lives matter! So many black men are in jail because of this 'low priority' issue. Do you think she could take the time to address it?

[leftofcool]

6. I didn't say it wasn't important.

Compared to income equality, endless wars etc... it would be a low priority for an candidate. Let Rand Paul run on legalizing pot and the Dems run on some more important issues.

[TM99]

12. If it is directly related to the failed war on drugs

it is about income equality, civil rights, and the increasing militarization of our police force.

You do know that one of the big socially progressive issues that won during the 2014 midterms was legalization of marijuana, right?

For the electorate, yes, it is apparently a big deal.

This has zero to do with Rand Paul, but I know, I know, when challenged Clinton supporters pull out the 'right winger' canard.

[leftofcool]

19. Get back to me

Get back to me when you get Bernie +60 Senate socialists and several hundred House socialists elected in 2016. We will all have a pot party.

[Bluenorthwest]

22. Legal in Colorado, Washington, Alaska and come July 1st, Oregon.

A majority of voters in all of those States have already chosen legalization. Thriving industries are growing and racist, selective drug war policies being replaced. The Democratic Party of Oregon supported legalization as did Senator Merkley. So ranting about Socialists and Rand Paul just makes you sound as if you hold the voters of Oregon and our Democratic Party in contempt.

Hillary will need far better rhetoric than that which you present in order to compete in the West. Sorry. O'Malley's positions are way worse than hers, so it's not really going to be a problem unless she makes it one. Bernie's statements on cannabis are not all that different from those of other Democrats and in fact short of the full endorsement given by Oregon Democrats. His position sounds tepid to me. Yours sounds right wing and reactionary. The stuff you are saying would sink any candidate for any office in this State, well, would sink any Democrat. We have a Republican district, they might dig that but they won't vote for Democrats. Democrats vote for Democrats and around here, Democrats are for legal cannabis.

[zappaman]

43. And on the ballot in 2016 for California.

How CA wasn't the first state to legalize is beyond me...

[Logical]

68. I agree, I said about 10 years ago CA would be the first to do it. Is it for sure......

on the 2016 ballot.

[TM99]

44. All snark and no substance.

Typical.

Blue gave you the reasons quite succinctly below.

This is part of the legacy that Clinton now must contend with --

http://www.mapinc.org/newscfdp/v01/n087/a05.html?6793

[99Forever]

46. "All snark and no substance." Exactly.

Seems to a very common tactic around here since Bernie announced, doesn't it?

[TM99]

49. Yes indeed.

And if you push back against it then you are being negative and Sanders wouldn't like that, so why are you being negative?

[jwirr]

83. Even to using the rw socialist error to describe a Democratic Socialist. Obviously need more

education.

[TM99]

84. The Third Wing is right wing.

They are socially moderate Republicans from the 1980's and 1990's. Of course, they have the same error. Neo-liberalism can not stand Democratic Socialism. Look at Thatcher in the UK. Look at Merkl in Germany with regards to Greece.

[jwirr]

88. Exactly.

[Chan790]

106. "Let Rand Paul run on legalizing pot and the Dems run on some more important issues."

...so we can lose to Rand Fucking Paul. Great goddamned idea. Elections aren't won on important issues, they're won on emotional issues. This is something swing youth voters care about whereas TPP is not (unfortunately) and we're losing ground on abortion access and the social safety net. (unfortunately.) You run on this, throw the bone to your voters...and do all the important stuff having used this to get elected.

Any candidate for the Democratic nomination not willing to come out for ending the Drug War and legalizing marijuana can get out of the primary. As progressives, we finally have real progressive choices in the primaries and don't have to take the corporatist being shoved down our throats...we don't need anchors like Hillary that trail the public consensus.

[eloydude]

7. So you admit that she continues to ignore the income inequality...

Saying that the marijuana issue is not as important to her as it is important to many?

That's nice to know.

And no, Bernie's pot won't be free for all, because he isn't selling or obtaining any.

[leftofcool]

13. Well, I figured since college will be free for ya'll, why not pot?

I really hope that free college thing is retro back to about 1972 because I had to pay for my education all by myself and sure could use the money back now that I am retired.

[GummyBearz]

20. Get ready to have your mind blown...

Legal pot can be taxed, so in a way it would generate free income for the government.

K-12th grade is free for all in our public schools, we have public colleges, so why isn't grade 13+? Maybe the extra educational cost can be covered by marijuana taxes? Now I'm sure all that critical thinking just blew right over your head, but I'd still like to hear an incoherent "nuh-uh!" come back, so proceed

[leftofcool]

34. Works for me, now let's see him get it passed in all 50 states.

Better than taxing paltry middle class retirement plans to pay for free college for everyone. But, I bet Bernie's tax plan will blow right over your head since most of you don't have a clue as to how those paltry retirement plans are all tied up in the stock market.

[GummyBearz]

40. Fair enough reply

I actually have looked for as much information I can regarding Bernie's wall st. tax plan. Based on what I have found he has proposed similar plans in the past, and they are all intended to tax short term traders, not long term investors.

I do have a 401k, and I allocate my retirement savings in shares of individual companies myself. I don't have a money manager that skims my savings with management fees, and any wall st. tax isn't going to change my 200 shares of at&t to 190 as far as I can tell.

[yeoman6987]

101. Free is funny.

They will need to raise taxes on everyone for free college. Free education for K-12 has been expensive for homeowners who are working class in a Loy of areas. It will be the same for college. I did go to school through MBA and now it's paid off, but if it is free, everyone will pay their entire lives instead of until their forties when loans are typically paid off.

[GummyBearz]

103. Free may be going too far

But the cost of a 4 year degree and grad. degrees should be reduced to be more in line with what it was in the 70s (adjusted for inflation). It worked back then just fine...

[yeoman6987]

104. The reason it is so expensive is because of competion

Everyone wants to go to college and they will pay whatever to go. Back in the 70's, a small percentage went. Now everyone goes and majors in things they shouldn't at least from an ecomomical reason.

[GummyBearz]

105. The competition part should be academic only

Admission competition should end at the admissions board. Using money as a prohibitive force to keep people out of college isn't a solution to the problem of "more people want to go". You use academic standards to select who gets in... not bank statements.

*edit: this applies only to public universities of course. Private ones can do as they please

[yeoman6987]

107. Well that's true

We need to get away from everyone needs a college education too. It is not good economic sense to get an 80 thousand dollar degree that will only get you 10 dollars an hour. It would be better to go to trade school and later take some interesting classes that interest you. Why anyone would get a degree in sociology or psychology without continuing to PHD is unreasonable. What do they think they are going to get for a job with two bachelors in sociology? Our whole college outlook needs a huge overhaul.

[GummyBearz]

108. 100% agree

If anything should be free, its 2 year (associates) degrees, and trade schools (which is kind of covered in Obama's proposal for 2 years of community college free).

And the stigma of "not going to university" needs to get addressed starting in about 6th grade

[eloydude]

41. Both MMJ and Legal are taxed

The legal ones have additional taxes added for revenue. MMJ do not.

[Warren DeMontague]

98. Me too

this advanced degree in telling you kids to get off my lawn wasn't cheap.

[TM99]

47. The Clinton legacy on the Drug War.

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/clinton-dynasty-horrific-legacy-more-drug-war-more-prisons

[DonCoquixote]

53. not really

because part of the reason we gave the cops so much power was to deal with the drug war, and it is allowing states to raise money they badly need. Not that Colorado has let the cat out of the bag, she will need to answer it, if for no other reason that the GOP is saying HELLLLL NO!

Come on Hill, this is an eays answer and will make GOP heads explode!

[joshcryer]

86. Odds are it'll be in the platform.

4 states worth of delegates should be enough to pass a late night DNC amendment.

[eridani]

92. Very strange, since she is already objecting to mass incarceration

WTF does she think is the reason for so many people being locked up?

[Jackpine Radical]

2. She wants to have a serious conversation about forming a committee

to discuss setting up a focus group.

[Octafish]

5. That's a brave stand.

Probably the bravest stand under the circumstances, right up there, certainly, with other of the more braver stands in history, considering the optics.

[eloydude]

9. Indeed, but she needs to set up an exploration committee to form the committee

to discuss the committee of the committee to understand marijuana's review on the committee's stance on marijuana.

[Jackpine Radical]

14. Well, ya gotta admit she knows how to handle herself under fire.

[cali]

66. omg, that's a riot.

[99Forever]

51. Well almost...

... I think she's has a plan to make plan to have a serious conversation about forming a committee to discuss setting up a focus group.

[Jackpine Radical]

58. Oh, drat.

I hate it when I get ahead of myself like that.

[hatrack]

74. Will listening be involved?

Gosh, I sure hope so!

[Jackpine Radical]

75. Oh, yes. Listening. Lots of listening. No need to talk. Just listen.

And then she'll listen to Bob Rubin to get the straight of it.

[fredamae]

8. Ever changing apparently

Today? Who knows.

http://www.theweedblog.com/does-hillary-clinton-support-marijuana-legalization/

[MohRokTah]

110. This is an issue that could swing my vote.

The next president will determine a lot of things about the cannabis industry. The next president will have the power to shut down the entire recreational legalization movement overnight by simply having the DEA enforce ALL federal marijuana laws.

Yeah, that means anybody who buys a gram of pot in a shop in Colorado could end up on federal charges, and the penalties suck, too.

So this issue could swing my vote away from Hillary unless she is clearly in favor of allowing state level laws stand. We can swing her to federal legalization in the future because every indication is the rates of crime in Colorado and Washington have not changed and all of the oogey boogey be afraid be afraid predictions have not come to pass.

[fredamae]

112. Bernie annouced his position

http://truthinmedia.com/democratic-presidential-candidate-bernie-sanders-supports-decriminalizing-marijuana/

I too will Support the candidate most likely to follow through on declared positions.....
Not a single issue voter..but this one Is a Huge factor in my considerations (personally).

[MohRokTah]

113. I'll wait to hear other candidate's positions.

I'm firmly convinced Bernie Sanders could not win a national general election, so I'm interested in what O'Malley has to say on the issue.

[fredamae]

114. Fair enough :) n/t

[madokie]

10. She doesn't' have one I'm sure

if she does it won't be good I'll bet money on that

[cali]

15. I don't trust her position on anything but reproductive rights.

The bottom line for me with HRC is her having taken so much money from corporations over such long period of time- for her campaigns, for the Clinton Foundation and to line her own pockets.

[LanternWaste]

16. During a CNN town hall meeting in June 2014 when asked about the idea of legalizing marijuana...

During a CNN town hall meeting in June 2014 when asked about the idea of legalizing marijuana nationally, Mrs. Clinton had this to say: "On recreational (use), you know, states are the laboratories of democracy. We have at least two states that are experimenting with that right now. I want to wait and see what the evidence is."



No doubt, we'll all read this in such a way as to validate our biases, and trivialize any interpretations which may not parallel our own...

[Bonobo]

18. LOL. Never fails. When you want waffles, bring up "states rights."

It is EXACTLY what the loathsome racist tea baggers do to cover their racist ideas.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Do a search...

I have started multiple threads on the difference between true civil libertarianism and Tenth Amendment absolutism. The latter to me is cacka... It doesn't make a whit of difference to me if the state or national government usurps a right I assert and hold dear...Getting high doesn't rise to that level...


That being said, anybody who believe someone should be thrown in the hoosegow and get a criminal record which will follow a person for the rest of his or her life for smoking a joint is seriously out of touch.

[Bluenorthwest]

26. From the OP link: Sanders co-sponsored the States' Rights to Medical Marijuana Act

Title: To provide for the medical use of marijuana in accordance with the laws of the various States. Summary: Transfers marijuana from schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act to schedule II of such Act. Declares that, in a State in which marijuana may be prescribed or recommended by a physician for medical use under applicable State law, no provision of the Controlled Substances Act shall prohibit or otherwise restrict:

the prescription or recommendation of marijuana by a physician for medical use;

an individual from obtaining and using marijuana from a physician's prescription or recommendation of marijuana for medical use; or

a pharmacy from obtaining and holding marijuana for the prescription or recommendation of marijuana by a physician for medical use under applicable State law.

Prohibits any provision of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act from prohibiting or restricting a State entity from producing or distributing marijuana for the purpose of its distribution for prescription or recommendation by a physician in a State in which marijuana may be prescribed by a physician for medical use.

[Bonobo]

27. Not the same as hiding behind the old "States can do whatever they want" and then

not offering your own position.

Bernie's thoughts on marijuana are not really concealed like Hillary's.

[Bluenorthwest]

33. Look. I am a cannabis activist in a State that has successfully legalized, I am a Sanders supporter

Your line of attack was bogus. It would not in any way assist you in advancing Bernie in my State, which has already voted for legalization, which already likes Bernie for being on the side of the States to make these decisions. When our candidate has sponsored a cannabis bill titled 'State's Rights' it is just hypocritical to say 'oh she cites State's Rights' which she did not actually do but which Sanders actually has, Sanders was correct to do so, as it is an issue about the role of the Federal government in such decisions. Trying to tie such a thing to racist Tea Baggers is very fucked up. The people who are correct about this issue, not only Bernie but my own delegation as well, use such terminology not only in speech but in the making of law. Hillary did not say 'States Rights' nor did she say 'States can do whatever they want'.
Bernie's answer yesterday was that when he was mayor Burlington did not arrest people for pot and that he was keeping an eye on Colorado.
Here in Oregon, supporting legalization sounds like this 'I fully support legalization of recreational cannabis for adults'.
We know it when we hear it.

[LanternWaste]

28. I used to consistently allege things to validate my biases, too.

I used to consistently allege things to validate my biases, too.

[LanternWaste]

31. I'll certainly give your in-depth analysis all the credibility it in fact, warrants...

I'll certainly give your in-depth analysis and irrelevancies all the credibility they in fact, warrant...

[Bonobo]

32. I will put this as kindly as I can.

You do not rise high enough on my radar to continue to respond to you, so when you find me ignoring your little following me around the board pestering comments, don't be surprised and please understand it is due to lack of interest in what you have to say.

You're not even worthy of my irritation let alone any strong feelings.

So, umm buh-bye.

[joshcryer]

85. Sanders uses the "experiment" rhetoric, too.

I don't like that no major candidate is actually taking a solid stance here.

The experiment has lasted 3 years, by the time of the elections it'll be 4 years, someone needs to say the experiment worked.

[Bonobo]

17. What are her stances on a lot of things?

Hard to know when she doesn't answer questions...and when she does offers a heaping platter of waffles.

[Warren DeMontague]

59. she wants to empower communities and families

and, the Bible is the most inspiring book she's ever read.


What more do you want, in terms of concrete policy proposals, citizen? Is that not enough?

[ileus]

30. Who cares...that's about 400th on my list.

[B Calm]

39. Probably ranked around 400th with drug cartels too!

[IVoteDFL]

55. It's number one to an awful lot of millennials.

[bravenak]

60. So true. They forget that there will be 80 million of us voting soon.

I think we shoukd be accomodated by the party before we decide there is no place for us and make our own party. 80 million is alot of votes.

[bravenak]

65. I hope the hell so.

They have become complacent in some ways, used to having most of the power. It will be hard to let go of that power and we are hard to bribe. Our parents tried that shit on us, they are boomers.

[bravenak]

71. We millennials are just some seriously jaded mfers.

I think being born during the reagan revolution/crack epidemic/aids decade fucked some of us up.

[TM99]

87. No shit!

And the Clintons bought into that fucked up war on drugs in the 1990's while the Gore's were trying to censor our music and video games.

[Jesus Malverde]

93. Boomers saving their children from what they did themselves.

[Jesus Malverde]

73. nailed it

JM

[ileus]

69. Why is pot #1....why not jobs? finance reform? Military spending?

[bravenak]

72. Because we can GET Pot on the ballot.

We cannot make the party care about the other stuff we want. We don't have enough money for them to notice us. They only notice us at voting time and to blame us for losing. Never to put our issues on the agenda. They call our issues 'unicorn' and 'ponies' and urealistic, issues like free college and a social safety net.

[IVoteDFL]

97. Where to start?

To end long term incarceration for non-violent drug offenders, especially for minorities who are targeted by police despite doing fewer drugs than white people. Many of us know people or have ourselves been hauled off for having a small amount of weed. Once that is on your record, good luck getting a job that pays more than minimum wage.


To end the expensive war on drugs. The US Government spends obscene amounts of money on a failed drug war. It's costing us billions of dollars to murder and maim in South America and Mexico, all in the name of keeping drugs away from our citizens. Meanwhile Larry Redneck across the road can blow up the block later cooking his meth. At least he didn't have weed or cocaine right? Oh, and they are getting pretty fed up with us down there and some leaders are looking at full legalization there. Which would most likely make our war on drugs even more expensive.

Hemp is a renewable resource, and it is highly nutritious. I eat hemp nuts every morning with my oatmeal. 14 oz. costs me $20 and I can't even purchase it from an American farmer.

Which brings me to jobs. Legalization can create a lot of them. Plus the extra money saved in ending failed policy and the revenue raised from taxes. This is nothing but good news for everyone. Smoker and non smoker a like.

[Sunlei]

36. a good question. I want President Obama to decriminalize the plant by mandate before he leaves

Let the 'outraged' try to put pandora back in the box after that Federal execrative action sets people free.

If not. Mrs. Clinton or Sen. Sanders better have a clear plan for this Federal gov. action and not some idea that will take years more.

I haven't made my mind up who to vote for in 2016.

IMO, to decriminalize MJ at the Federal lvl would take care of a lot of problems America has with their endless drug warz, 'for profit' prisons, local "whats in your pockets"? police and help the economy.

[Renew Deal]

52. The Clinton's?

Hillary is not her own person to you?

[hrmjustin]

54. you noticed that as well.

I am sending you a pm,

[Warren DeMontague]

56. Actually, the way the OP is phrased, it is asking what "Clinton's" position, singular, is.

It's a fairly well known convention to refer to Presidents and Potential Presidents by their last names- Reagan, Ford, Carter, Nixon, etc. ... even when you're talking about a POTUS with the same last name as a previous one, i.e. "Bush".

I think you are misinterpreting the phrasing of the OP.

[hrmjustin]

61. Thanks.

[F4lconF16]

64. Maybe I'm missing something

But I don't see a "the" anywhere in the OP.

[Thinkingabout]

63. This will be a non issue by 2020 along with same sex marriage and may be by the 2016 election.

Having jobs and enough income to support families is a more important issue to everyone. We know these issues are going to be handled. Where are the jobs, better education, repair the infrastructure to halt the useless deaths because of defects.

[Old and In the Way]

77. Pretty simple answer and she knows this is the truth.

Stop criminalizing the smoking of pot. This is all a she has to say. It is not an Executive decision, but she can expedite the process and gain millions of young voters in the process -probably a bunch of libertines of various ages, too.

[PowerToThePeople]

89. How many donations does she get from for profit prisons? n/t

[CentralMass]

102. it is clear that her strategy is to lay low and avoid taking any specfic

stance on this and other issues to remain as plain vanilla as possible for the primary. She and her campaign will strive to appeal to everyone and offend no one, especially Wall St. Leaving us I fear not really knowing what side of many issues she will land on. Is that what it takes to win ? Probably.

At this point a plain speaking Bernie Sanders is my choice in the primary. If the eventual nominee should to get that point without clearly defining his or her stances on the critical issues I will for the first time in my voting history either not make a selection at the top of the ballot or do a write in (and yes, I realize that is a throw away).

The game has become lip service to the base with a nod and a wink to the corporate overlords.

At his point in her life and political career, who is Hillary Clinton ? She obviously wants to win this badly, but at what cost and for what reasons ? Is she artfully playing the game to be a champion for the underclasses or will she do the bidding Wall St and her corporate backers ? While I thought I knew the answer to that question in 2008, I don't anymore.