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Duggar molestation charges-it was the sisters (Original Post) xmas74 May 2015 OP
Keeping the family values in the family NV Whino May 2015 #1
Ugh! xmas74 May 2015 #4
A hyper-religious breeder cult has inappropriate things going on with children?? arcane1 May 2015 #2
And TLC gave them xmas74 May 2015 #5
Everyone who is surprised by this stand on your head... hifiguy May 2015 #67
Targaryans? bravenak May 2015 #3
Well, they do think they're empire building. xmas74 May 2015 #6
dragon are the DEVIL!! bravenak May 2015 #10
I didn't even think about Kathy Bates. xmas74 May 2015 #13
Omg, he's going to be aquaman!?! bravenak May 2015 #19
Oh, yes. He's going to be Aquaman. xmas74 May 2015 #23
Me too. bravenak May 2015 #26
Jason Momoa is so fine. xmas74 May 2015 #30
Lisa Bonet? Yeah. I always wanted to be like her. bravenak May 2015 #42
Look how early she figured it out! xmas74 May 2015 #44
Bill Cosby treated her badly after she appeared in "Angel Heart" CatWoman May 2015 #79
I've always liked her. xmas74 May 2015 #80
He's a Republican Aerows May 2015 #210
Here he is: PassingFair May 2015 #48
Oh, my. xmas74 May 2015 #56
Handily beats THIS: PassingFair May 2015 #58
Aquaman is going to be so sexy. xmas74 May 2015 #82
Who? What? New Batman? Black Batman? randys1 May 2015 #101
Uh, Aquaman. bravenak May 2015 #107
What, who is that? But Aquaman is the one my buds at Big Bang Theory laugh about LOL randys1 May 2015 #108
Yeah, that's the new Aquaman. bravenak May 2015 #109
more like Craster's 'wives.' nt geek tragedy May 2015 #55
Damn. bravenak May 2015 #57
Then it could also be Lannisters! FarPoint May 2015 #102
Good point. bravenak May 2015 #105
I adore Tyrion. FarPoint May 2015 #111
That's my dream too. bravenak May 2015 #112
We definitely have the same passion. FarPoint May 2015 #113
I love it when people love what I love. bravenak May 2015 #114
We have the same exact favorites, it seems. Jamastiene May 2015 #197
Me too. bravenak May 2015 #202
Tyrion is my one Lannister exception too. Jamastiene May 2015 #196
Looks like it was someone very close to the family Warpy May 2015 #7
It was the oldest son, Josh. xmas74 May 2015 #14
He works for the Family Research Council SoCalNative May 2015 #103
Not anymore. bravenak May 2015 #110
Did he already resign? xmas74 May 2015 #125
Yep. He's already gone. But not before several years of lecturing us about how sinful our society is StevieM May 2015 #129
I already saw on facebook where the fans xmas74 May 2015 #132
Because every 14 year old boy get the red out May 2015 #184
I also read one comment that said all teens experiment xmas74 May 2015 #186
SICK! get the red out May 2015 #187
I live in Missouri xmas74 May 2015 #192
Yeah, TMZ says so. bravenak May 2015 #133
"Family Research" PassingFair May 2015 #162
apparently he just resigned TorchTheWitch May 2015 #171
Bwahaahaa!! Pray away the pedophilia.. misterhighwasted May 2015 #64
the learning channel became the lousy channel- such a shame what they did to that station Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #8
And look at the people they pick! xmas74 May 2015 #15
Yeah, we be learning, alright. Hoppy May 2015 #25
Well, you're 'learning'---to pick up the remote and change the channel.... nt MADem May 2015 #151
Uh, so who molested who? B2G May 2015 #9
Josh, the oldest son xmas74 May 2015 #12
Thanks for the summary, I've no desire to wade through reading more. uppityperson May 2015 #17
I don't blame you. xmas74 May 2015 #21
Oh, they're going to town on the threads that popped up on my Facebook feed. historylovr May 2015 #135
His behavior is a big, red flag... CoffeeCat May 2015 #176
I started wondering about that after I signed off last night. historylovr May 2015 #182
Thanks! Now i can re-read with some context B2G May 2015 #22
He has a daughter of his own now. xmas74 May 2015 #24
I just read on a gossip site (I won't link to it because they may or may not be right) polly7 May 2015 #32
I read the that the four oldest sisters xmas74 May 2015 #36
Very sad. :(. nt. polly7 May 2015 #38
and a second daughter on the way. diabeticman May 2015 #50
Call to be made? to stop the arrangement? diabeticman May 2015 #51
The arrangement was already cancelled. xmas74 May 2015 #59
A thanks. Sorry diabeticman May 2015 #61
NP xmas74 May 2015 #65
Mrs. Dugger is very vocal about trangendered folks vankuria May 2015 #78
+100000000. And he wants very badly to be a right-wing politician. polly7 May 2015 #81
I hope the story moves through social media quickly vankuria May 2015 #87
At age 14... Oktober May 2015 #153
Still not an excuse. xmas74 May 2015 #157
Agreed... Oktober May 2015 #180
It exposes the facade get the red out May 2015 #183
Absolutely. alarimer May 2015 #188
I've had a few others bring up his age. xmas74 May 2015 #185
I'd like to know what 14 yr old wants to fuck around with his 8yr old sister? riderinthestorm May 2015 #163
Exactly. xmas74 May 2015 #168
Wow. Sent away for three months for 'hard work and Christian counseling' .... polly7 May 2015 #11
AKA xmas74 May 2015 #16
That's horrible. I got the 'hard work and Christian counseling' from the reports. polly7 May 2015 #20
No counseling for the girls. xmas74 May 2015 #28
I really pity those poor girls. nt. polly7 May 2015 #35
Here's a kicker -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2015 #70
Read that too. xmas74 May 2015 #71
So many articles are trying to spin this -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2015 #85
He knew a year before it was turned in xmas74 May 2015 #96
+1, K&R. Excellent synopsis. Duggar didn't do the right thing...he did the exact opposite. (eom) StevieM May 2015 #122
What he did was protect the Duggar brand. xmas74 May 2015 #124
As did their church elders, as well as a cop (who is now in prison for a sex crime). eom StevieM May 2015 #126
The trooper they spoke to xmas74 May 2015 #131
I wonder if they blamed the girls for tempting him to sin. It wouldn't be the first time StevieM May 2015 #136
As I wrote below, I fear that the girls were blamed for "tempting him to sin." (eom) StevieM May 2015 #137
That's a horrible thought, but who knows ..... anything's possible. nt. polly7 May 2015 #138
It is horrible...but it is also fairly common in some circles. (eom) StevieM May 2015 #141
Yup, while they were sleeping n/t TexasBushwhacker May 2015 #208
The "family" friend Texasgal May 2015 #139
Fucking disgusting grifter parents. Starry Messenger May 2015 #18
Disgusting LittleBlue May 2015 #27
Did any of the victims get counseling? Ilsa May 2015 #29
Women aren't that important in that family. xmas74 May 2015 #33
At some point they'll feel the anger towards their parents Ilsa May 2015 #37
You know this and I know this xmas74 May 2015 #41
Girls and women don't seem to matter much in this particular ideology, besides breeding and cleaning. demmiblue May 2015 #39
Grotesque. I hope this ends their celebrity status the way it did for "Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo" bullwinkle428 May 2015 #31
Let's hope. xmas74 May 2015 #46
Are these the same daughters who are not even allowed to kiss their fiances?? malaise May 2015 #34
Yep.And no hand holding until engaged. xmas74 May 2015 #40
Let us prey on the gullible malaise May 2015 #43
I have family members posting about them on Facebook and how xmas74 May 2015 #45
Sick fuggs malaise May 2015 #47
About those perms... spinbaby May 2015 #117
Eww. xmas74 May 2015 #134
That is one eff'ed up family MaggieD May 2015 #49
If any of this is true... Catherine Vincent May 2015 #52
Not yet xmas74 May 2015 #60
They aired a marathon or are going to. Jamastiene May 2015 #198
TLC officially pulled the show about an hour ago. xmas74 May 2015 #204
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo May 2015 #53
how old was he at the time ? JI7 May 2015 #54
Believed to be 16-17 when it began xmas74 May 2015 #62
A child. We should not even know about this. yeoman6987 May 2015 #63
17. Old enough to be charged as an adult. xmas74 May 2015 #68
Regardless under 18 and complete privacy invasion. yeoman6987 May 2015 #73
Not everyone had family with enough power to sit on a case xmas74 May 2015 #77
+1 historylovr May 2015 #100
When you put yourself into the public domain with a reality show vankuria May 2015 #92
Good point! I just hope this is not our future yeoman6987 May 2015 #98
If he had boosted a car at that age xmas74 May 2015 #116
perhaps people who wish to exploit their own children elehhhhna May 2015 #118
That's a good point. Iggo May 2015 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo May 2015 #72
Oh, wow shenmue May 2015 #66
Oh Fucking Gawd!! And Michele Dugger is legislating against Trans misterhighwasted May 2015 #69
Oh yeah shenmue May 2015 #75
My god those poor girls. Autumn May 2015 #76
But, as pointed out upthread, xmas74 May 2015 #84
Fuck that, at 17 he fucking knows what he did. Autumn May 2015 #86
Exactly. xmas74 May 2015 #89
Somebody better look out for his kids. Autumn May 2015 #94
who says he molested the older sisters? there were like 6 elehhhhna May 2015 #120
It's believed that it was probably the older ones. xmas74 May 2015 #123
Yep. He was born in March, 1988. Supposedly the offense report of it was in Dec. 2006, polly7 May 2015 #90
Yes, and his parents too. Autumn May 2015 #95
Absolutely. They've always made me ill, this just makes them more scum than I'd thought all along. polly7 May 2015 #97
Looks like the police are destroying the original report Oilwellian May 2015 #83
I'd bet it's one of the sisters xmas74 May 2015 #88
Mr. Holier-Than-Thou Super Christian Rightwing Family Man had better shut his damn trap now! Arugula Latte May 2015 #91
But as pointe out upthread I should xmas74 May 2015 #93
2 sons. elehhhhna May 2015 #121
I thought number four was due this summer. xmas74 May 2015 #130
The oldest is a girl, then they have two sons, and a girl on the way. Arugula Latte May 2015 #142
Yeah -- that is a weird focus, for sure. Arugula Latte May 2015 #143
I just had someone else mention the same thing on Facebook. xmas74 May 2015 #146
The Duggars Respond to Reports That Josh Duggar Was Accused of Child Molestation polly7 May 2015 #99
What the ever loving f***. Raine1967 May 2015 #106
His sisters' lives were ruined the second they were born into that family. smokey nj May 2015 #127
I agree with you smokey nj. polly7 May 2015 #190
Actually, one of the victims wasn't his sister. And he makes it sound like he and his parents StevieM May 2015 #145
I wonder how angry the parents of that other child were over all of this. polly7 May 2015 #149
And then for them to have to carry on on camera like everything was hunky dory and Arugula Latte May 2015 #155
Yes, that too. polly7 May 2015 #156
Let me guess -- Arugula Latte May 2015 #154
I actually speculated about that in several earlier posts. I wonder if the Duggar parents StevieM May 2015 #158
That was my first thought too. Jamastiene May 2015 #199
Yep. That's about right. It's just "sin" TexasMommaWithAHat May 2015 #179
Sad story, sad for the victim and sad that the parents and grown children are randys1 May 2015 #104
Kiss the show goodbye malaise May 2015 #115
his treatment was working for a family friend for 5 months. Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #119
No parents with that many kids are actually paying much attention to tblue37 May 2015 #128
I bet you're right. polly7 May 2015 #140
I'll bet Jim Bob and Michelle are super pissed off -- that their "brand" has been tarnished. Arugula Latte May 2015 #144
The piggy bank will soon be emptied. xmas74 May 2015 #148
Well, maybe at least one good thing will come of this. Arugula Latte May 2015 #152
On TMZ, there's a family photo of the Duggar family Catherine Vincent May 2015 #147
Holy shit Marrah_G May 2015 #150
Nope. She's not. Not even close. You'll definitely want to read the link I am providing. StevieM May 2015 #159
OMG she KNEW? Marrah_G May 2015 #160
I'm scared that they have already gotten "therapy." The kind that told them that StevieM May 2015 #161
Ugh, her parents knew too. Family values! WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #164
does anyone know when the side hug crap started ? i always thought it was weird JI7 May 2015 #165
what in the world is a "side hug"? TorchTheWitch May 2015 #169
this JI7 May 2015 #170
Can't touch the boobies, it might tempt the man child. polly7 May 2015 #195
My guess it started after Texasgal May 2015 #200
TLC now has another new show "Submissive Wives" Marrah_G May 2015 #166
Are you serious!? Rex May 2015 #205
yup serious....saw it on their facebook page Marrah_G May 2015 #209
I'm not surprised Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #167
So where are the "pro choice means respecting the Duggar family choice" posts? alp227 May 2015 #172
Lots of silence on that count. xmas74 May 2015 #174
I won't type what I think should happen to him and his parents. Solly Mack May 2015 #173
What a sick bastard! workinclasszero May 2015 #175
Cults are always protected get the red out May 2015 #177
Righties will set up a GoFundMe page for him. Adrahil May 2015 #178
xmas74, I read all your posts in this thread, thank you for the information. Jefferson23 May 2015 #181
I think the story has legs. xmas74 May 2015 #191
I would like to see protective services involved as well....this story stinks so bad in a host of Jefferson23 May 2015 #193
Also, Oprah turned them in in 2006 for the molestation Jamastiene May 2015 #189
It's because the statute of limitations had already expired. xmas74 May 2015 #194
good for Oprah JI7 May 2015 #201
In March 2002, Duggar had 5 younger sisters... SidDithers May 2015 #203
Four of the victims were his sisters xmas74 May 2015 #206
SO do the parents, I hope CPS steps in since there are still children in the home. Rex May 2015 #207

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
4. Ugh!
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:08 PM
May 2015

And the only reason it was reported was because someone made a call. The family knew about it for at least a year.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
6. Well, they do think they're empire building.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:11 PM
May 2015

Of course none of the girls are marrying a man as hot looking as Khal Drogo and I'm sure they'd think that dragons come from the devil.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
10. dragon are the DEVIL!!
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:14 PM
May 2015

I should not laugh but, I can't help it. Reminds me of Kathy Bates saying 'fooseball is the devil!"

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
13. I didn't even think about Kathy Bates.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:22 PM
May 2015

I only thought about how hot Jason Momoa is and how I had to stare at his pics for a moment. I can't wait to see him as Aquaman.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
19. Omg, he's going to be aquaman!?!
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:29 PM
May 2015

I better tell my sister. She loves loves loves him. And yes, he is hot like burning fire.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
23. Oh, yes. He's going to be Aquaman.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:36 PM
May 2015

Instead of the pasty, bleachy blond of the past he'll have more of that Polynesian/Islander hotness.

I swore I'd never have another child but for him...

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
26. Me too.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:39 PM
May 2015

But for me it's The Rock, Dwayne Johnson. Goodness...
I'm totally going to see it at the theater.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
30. Jason Momoa is so fine.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:43 PM
May 2015

He even has fantastic taste in women. Look at his wife: stunning, talented and not afraid to express her opinions.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
42. Lisa Bonet? Yeah. I always wanted to be like her.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:55 PM
May 2015

She seemed so wise for her age. And she was smart enough to figure out that Bill Cosby was not that awesome.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
44. Look how early she figured it out!
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:58 PM
May 2015

She's always been willing to take a chance. If she'd kept quiet she looked like the Cosby kid whose career would take off Instad, she made her views known and took chances in her roles. I relly admire her for that.

She also has great taste in men.

CatWoman

(79,283 posts)
79. Bill Cosby treated her badly after she appeared in "Angel Heart"
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:54 PM
May 2015

and she most certainly knew what a fucking hypocrite he was by his treatment of her versus his harassment and drugging women.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
80. I've always liked her.
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:58 PM
May 2015

I was young when she was on Cosby (tween years) but I liked her back then, more than the rest of the cast. She just seemed so cool and I wanted to emulate her style, as a white tween from the rural Plains.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
82. Aquaman is going to be so sexy.
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:00 PM
May 2015

I would have watched anyway, since I grew up reading comic books. Casting Momoa gives me even more to look forward to!

randys1

(16,286 posts)
108. What, who is that? But Aquaman is the one my buds at Big Bang Theory laugh about LOL
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:48 PM
May 2015

I must not know much about superheroes, this is Aquaman?



looks like bat wings
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
112. That's my dream too.
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:59 PM
May 2015

Tyrion the Great rides a Dragon to the wall and saves the Seven Kingdons, and reigns over a peaceful land and invents Democracy.
I'm crazy about this series. Especially Jon Tyrion Arya and Dany.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
196. Tyrion is my one Lannister exception too.
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:18 PM
May 2015

He is the only decent one of the bunch for the Lannisters.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
7. Looks like it was someone very close to the family
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:12 PM
May 2015

and that person went to a "pray away the pedophilia" retreat and is all better now.

Yeah, right.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
14. It was the oldest son, Josh.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:24 PM
May 2015

The one who now works for one of those groups in DC that is against marriage equality.

And the retreat was working for a family friend renovating a business for three months.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
129. Yep. He's already gone. But not before several years of lecturing us about how sinful our society is
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:02 PM
May 2015

and how we should all be more like him and his family.

get the red out

(13,459 posts)
184. Because every 14 year old boy
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:06 AM
May 2015

molests his sisters, so why are we picking on these good Christians?????

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
186. I also read one comment that said all teens experiment
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:10 AM
May 2015

so why are we picking on him.

I wanted to throw my laptop.

get the red out

(13,459 posts)
187. SICK!
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:15 AM
May 2015

Two unrelated 14 year olds making out when no one is watching is not quite the same as a 14 year old molesting his 8 year old sister.

If this had been minority kid, he would have been charged at the time, at least as a juvenile, and if the details had come out these same white fundies would have wanted him charged as an adult. I have no doubt about that at all.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
192. I live in Missouri
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:30 AM
May 2015

and I know that a minority kid or even a white kid from a "lower class" would have been bumped up to an adult offender and charged as such. I'd bet Arkansas would do the same.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
162. "Family Research"
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:16 PM
May 2015

Yeah, he's into family research alright.
I just read that he has resigned.
I hope this puts an end to their reign of quiverful terror.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
12. Josh, the oldest son
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:21 PM
May 2015

molested four female family members and one female friend who stayed overnight once. It is believed that the young friend 's last name was Holt. They were friends with the Duggars at the time and the families originally planned on marrying Josh to one of their daughters. Supposedly the call made was by the Holts after they realized nothing was being done about the situation.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
21. I don't blame you.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:33 PM
May 2015

I know people who defend this family. This rumor has been around for years. Sounds like there was some factual basis.

I'd love to see how people can defend them now.

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
135. Oh, they're going to town on the threads that popped up on my Facebook feed.
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:08 PM
May 2015

I waded through some of them just to see. Here's the gist: It was just hormones. Curious. Experimenting. Over-reaction. Why are you believing stories on the internet? People are just out to get them. But people change; he's grown up now. UGH

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
176. His behavior is a big, red flag...
Fri May 22, 2015, 02:00 AM
May 2015

When children commit incest it is a symptom of a much large problem--which usually involves a horrendously dysfunctional family system.

When children and teenagers molest their siblings, it is usually because they are playing out abuse that happened to them. If this were just garden variety "exploring" or sexual desires, it would be happening with a girlfriend. To cross that boundary between siblings, means that he was exploiting them.

Kids and teenagers don't do this behavior for no behavior. They are usually compelled to do this because someone older and more powerful powered up on them and molested them. That's the reason an abuse victim choses a younger sibling. They are re-creating the power differential and acting out on that.

This family has some VERY dark secrets. So, he molested four of his siblings and the parents do not report this? They do not seek psychological counseling for their son? That's a telltale sign that the parents were covering up their own abuse of their children. Any therapist worth their salt would understand that a child acting out sexually with siblings means that the "acting out" child was also victimized. Jim Bob didn't want his secrets to be revealed! He didn't get his own son help when this happened. He obfuscated and practically hid his son away. Isn't this so revealing? Jim Bob was hiding his own crimes--and his son's behavior was merely a symptom of his own sexual crimes within the family.

And notice that his younger siblings did not tell? That is a further sign that this family is messed up. These girls were most likely threatened by their older siblings not to tell. Their silence indicates that these girls did not trust their parents enough to tell them.

Anyone who does not think that the entire family is a nest of pedophiles and victims---is not aware of what happens to families in which their is sexual abuse. The Duggars are very typical of a dysfunctional, abusive family.

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
182. I started wondering about that after I signed off last night.
Fri May 22, 2015, 10:53 AM
May 2015

What if there was something worse going on. I believe you're probably right. With an obviously controlling father like that and a submissive wife, who knows what else has been happening.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
22. Thanks! Now i can re-read with some context
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:33 PM
May 2015

I always thought Josh was a tich creepy.

Now I know it's more that a tich.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
32. I just read on a gossip site (I won't link to it because they may or may not be right)
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:46 PM
May 2015

that the girls were all under 13. I don't think there should be a statute of limitations on child molestation, he should be charged. Meanwhile, he spews hate speech and pops up in picture after picture with well-known politicians who do the same. I think he's sure he'll be one of them some day. Crazy hypocrites.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
36. I read the that the four oldest sisters
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:49 PM
May 2015

would have been 12, 11, 9 and 8 at the time and that he was caught sneaking out of their bedroom.

vankuria

(901 posts)
78. Mrs. Dugger is very vocal about trangendered folks
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:54 PM
May 2015

publically states they're all pedophiles...may-be the next time she shoots her mouth off someone needs to remind her of her own son. And I would hope that Josh being as vocal as he is against LGBT citizens will be reminded of his very sick and disturbing behavior.

These folks act like they have some kind of moral compass over the rest of us and need to be put in their place. And may-be TLC needs a dose of reality too.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
81. +100000000. And he wants very badly to be a right-wing politician.
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:59 PM
May 2015

Do an image search and see how many he's pictured with. I hope this at least ruins his chances for it. Those girls had no protection at all and will never see any sort of justice, but then they've probably been brainwashed to believe it was ok, somehow.

vankuria

(901 posts)
87. I hope the story moves through social media quickly
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:06 PM
May 2015

I'm so sick of these people and how they are glorified just because they had a ton of kids and supposedly holier than thou.

get the red out

(13,459 posts)
183. It exposes the facade
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:04 AM
May 2015

I don't see this as entirely about a 14 year old molesting his younger sisters. This family is dysfunctional, this situation completely obliterates the so-called wholesome and good exterior they want to present. They obviously are failing their children miserably, even their solution to the problem, which was cover it up and let sonny-boy go do some construction work with a guy now in prison for kiddy-porn, expose them as very poor parents.

This contrasts with their irrational hate for LGBT people, since they covered up for real child abuse in their own home.

And then there is the question about what the 14 year old boy may have experienced that contributed to his abusing his siblings?

This bunch has even more dirty laundry than this, that's my guess.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
188. Absolutely.
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:19 AM
May 2015

This type of belief system is damaging to people. Unless they get out, they (all of them) will remain fucked up.

Certainly, molesting your sisters (whatever that actually means in this context) is beyond fucked-up. But the real issue is the lack of justice and healing. Their abhorrent belief system only causes this to be shoved under the rug, in a "Let's pretend we've dealt with this sort of way."

I'm not one of those people who necessarily thinks he should be locked up and the key thrown away forever. But he bears watching and certainly should have been punished in some way, and everyone should have gotten counseling at minimum.

I am also certain that there is a larger dysfunction here, as well. There has to be. Nobody in these "cults" is normal, for lack of a better word.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
185. I've had a few others bring up his age.
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:08 AM
May 2015

I worked in a state hospital. If they did it as teens they'll keep doing it. It's not like shoplifting, where they'll probably outgrow it.

I'd worry for his young children. Hell, I'd worry about how he treats his wife.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
163. I'd like to know what 14 yr old wants to fuck around with his 8yr old sister?
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:32 PM
May 2015


And I mean fuck around literally...

polly7

(20,582 posts)
11. Wow. Sent away for three months for 'hard work and Christian counseling' ....
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:18 PM
May 2015

I bet that 'cured' him.

Those poor girls.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
16. AKA
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:26 PM
May 2015

work for three months for a family friend who was renovating a business. That's the counseling.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
20. That's horrible. I got the 'hard work and Christian counseling' from the reports.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:30 PM
May 2015

They didn't even think enough of their daughters to get him some real help, let alone punishment. I wonder if the girls got counseling of any kind. I didn't read anything about that, but could have missed it.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
28. No counseling for the girls.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:40 PM
May 2015

Supposedly there were no plans to do anything until an anonymous call was made around the time they were to appear on Oprah. Jim Bob took him to see a family friend, a state trooper. That's the report listed. No charges were filed and the report sat almost completely hidden until the statute of limitations expired.

Oh, and the renovation bit? Michelle admitted that's where he went. Jim Bob said it was a retreat, Michelle said a family friend in Little Rock who renovated businesses.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
70. Here's a kicker --
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:39 PM
May 2015

I read that the trooper in question was himself was hit with child porn charges and is now in jail. Lovely family and friends, those Duggars. :O

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
71. Read that too.
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:42 PM
May 2015

Turns out someone emailed Oprah in 2006 about the incidents and the Oprah show, instead of allowing them on the air, hotlined them over the reports. That's when the report came out, long after the statute of limitations expired.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
85. So many articles are trying to spin this --
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:03 PM
May 2015

like Jim Bob is some hero for "turning his son in" -- such bullshit.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
96. He knew a year before it was turned in
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:13 PM
May 2015

and only turned it in to a family friend because they were hotlined. The family friend could then say he was investigating. Instead, they sat on the report until after the statute of limitations expired.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
122. +1, K&R. Excellent synopsis. Duggar didn't do the right thing...he did the exact opposite. (eom)
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:49 PM
May 2015

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
124. What he did was protect the Duggar brand.
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:52 PM
May 2015

There was no justice for those victims and no help given to the son. He protected the brand-the cash cow.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
136. I wonder if they blamed the girls for tempting him to sin. It wouldn't be the first time
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:11 PM
May 2015

that this sickening attitude was held.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
29. Did any of the victims get counseling?
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:43 PM
May 2015

These girls have been sexually abused. They need treatment, not a prayer meeting. There is no excuse these days for not getting counseling for victims.

They'll be sorry later on if they ignore this.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
33. Women aren't that important in that family.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:46 PM
May 2015

Don't you know they'll just marry them off anyway? With the ages insinuated it's a good possibility that two of them are already married off.

I can almost guarantee there is no way those girls ever received counseling.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
37. At some point they'll feel the anger towards their parents
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:49 PM
May 2015

for not taking the abuse more seriously. They'll be frustrated that their religion values virginity, but no one sought to protect them or protect their personhood by getting them help.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
41. You know this and I know this
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:53 PM
May 2015

but in that family their only value is as brood mares. They are taught to keep their heads down and to only parrot whatever their father or husband says.

demmiblue

(36,751 posts)
39. Girls and women don't seem to matter much in this particular ideology, besides breeding and cleaning.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:50 PM
May 2015

I hope at least some of them can escape.

So incredibly sad.

bullwinkle428

(20,627 posts)
31. Grotesque. I hope this ends their celebrity status the way it did for "Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo"
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:44 PM
May 2015

when it was revealed the mother took back the child-molesting scumbag boyfriend that assaulted her other daughter.

malaise

(267,845 posts)
34. Are these the same daughters who are not even allowed to kiss their fiances??
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:46 PM
May 2015

It's all bullshit for making money.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
40. Yep.And no hand holding until engaged.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:51 PM
May 2015

Same family that had their house declared a church, living room a sanctuary and land a charity.

malaise

(267,845 posts)
43. Let us prey on the gullible
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:55 PM
May 2015

and get rich - I never watch these stupid morons. All bullshit all the time.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
45. I have family members posting about them on Facebook and how
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:02 PM
May 2015

wonderful they are. I saw exactly one episode of their show-the Josh wedding and a half episode of another. The half episode was about how they save so much money and one of the ways was with home perms. Why home perms for all the girls? Because Jim bob likes his girls permed. Once I heard that I knew it was time to gtfo.

spinbaby

(15,073 posts)
117. About those perms...
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:02 PM
May 2015

This caught my eye a while back:

"As an aside, do you know why the Duggar girls curl their hair? (Most of them have naturally straight hair, though you wouldn’t know that from the pictures.) Because Bill Gothard taught that long, curly hair was godliest, because he had a kink for it."

Yep, the girls curl their hair because cult leader thinks it's sexy.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2014/08/an-open-letter-to-duggar-defenders.html

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
134. Eww.
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:08 PM
May 2015

My natural hair would turn Gothard on.

Makes me want to but my hair off and chemically straighten what's left.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
198. They aired a marathon or are going to.
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:45 PM
May 2015

The formatting on this page is all messed up, but if you scroll way down, it shows a link to a Twitter picture of a marathon of 19 Kids and Counting on TLC.

http://jezebel.com/tlc-aired-a-19-kids-counting-marathon-as-duggar-moles-1706265702

And TLC's Twitter page has all kinds of stuff advertising the show in recent days. I have to wonder if they are going to cancel or not. Their attitude seems to be they love the free publicity.

Response to xmas74 (Original post)

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
62. Believed to be 16-17 when it began
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:27 PM
May 2015

and the oldest sisters would have been 12, 11, 9 and 8. All victims were under 13.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
68. 17. Old enough to be charged as an adult.
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:34 PM
May 2015

the victims, all under the age of 13, were children.

Daddy had connections and charges were never filed.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
73. Regardless under 18 and complete privacy invasion.
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:48 PM
May 2015

Can you imagine if everyone's juvenile record were open? It be chaos for sure.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
77. Not everyone had family with enough power to sit on a case
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:52 PM
May 2015

to be sure that the statute of limitations would expire.

Sexual assault is something that should be open ended, with no statute of limitations. And it's one of the few things that should be an open record, no matter the age.

He was allowed to get away with a sexual assault. Do you really think it has stopped?

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
100. +1
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:36 PM
May 2015

I agree completely. Crimes like this need to be known, no matter the age, for the safety of everyone he might come in contact with. Including, yes, his children.

vankuria

(901 posts)
92. When you put yourself into the public domain with a reality show
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:10 PM
May 2015

You're fair game, and the fact that these people are so vocal in trashing LGBT citizens, I can't help but feel some karma.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
116. If he had boosted a car at that age
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:00 PM
May 2015

and his juvenile record were released I would be upset, mention privacy issues especially in juvenile cases. Same for shoplifting or any other number of cases. Sex assault of any kind is different, imho. I believe that all ages need to be part of the public record in reference to sex crimes.

I worked in mental health for a number of years. To be specific, it was a state hospital. I worked for 2 1/2 years in a 552/pretrial ward. Nearly every single person there for a sex crime had a prior history and it wasn't uncommon to find out that it had been found during their teen years. (How did we find this out? Because in a couple of pretrial cases it was mentioned by the individual awaiting trial.) If the sex crimes had been outed in their teen years there might not have been crimes as an adult. Instead,as a juvenile they could have recommended treatment and have addressed how to prevent getting themselves into situations in the future where they might be tempted. Instead, we have situations like this.

(When it comes to sex crimes I do not include public urination or "Romeo and Juliet" type statuatory cases. Nearly everything else needs documented and the public should be in the know.)

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
118. perhaps people who wish to exploit their own children
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:21 PM
May 2015

By acting like they are a more godly and pure than others should rethink that shit if their eldest son has habitually molested his young sisters?

Response to JI7 (Reply #54)

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
69. Oh Fucking Gawd!! And Michele Dugger is legislating against Trans
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:34 PM
May 2015

Child molesters are ok but Transgender are legislated to sub-class humans.
What an ugly woman she has become.
Self righteous & disgusting.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
84. But, as pointed out upthread,
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:03 PM
May 2015

we should be more worried about how he was 17 when he committed young girls under the age of 13.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
89. Exactly.
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:08 PM
May 2015

At 17 he knew exactly what he was doing. The oldest sisters at the time were 12, 11, 9 and 8. He is now the father of two-a boy and a girl-with another daughter on the way.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
123. It's believed that it was probably the older ones.
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:51 PM
May 2015

There are five girls born nearly back to back, then a big group of boys. The other girls weren't even born when the alleged abuse began.

Another source said that the initial source stated that the victims were "preteens".

polly7

(20,582 posts)
90. Yep. He was born in March, 1988. Supposedly the offense report of it was in Dec. 2006,
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:08 PM
May 2015

he should have been made to answer for it.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
97. Absolutely. They've always made me ill, this just makes them more scum than I'd thought all along.
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:13 PM
May 2015

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
83. Looks like the police are destroying the original report
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:01 PM
May 2015


Police are about to destroy all the names and details surrounding "19 Kids and Counting" star Josh Duggar's molestation case ... after one of his alleged victims asked a judge to protect her identity.

The alleged victim -- only referred to as "Jane Doe" in the docs -- was worried an unredacted copy of the police report might see the light of day. She argued the court had a duty to destroy the report, and the judge agreed ... signing the order Thursday afternoon.

As we previously reported ... Duggar was the subject of a police investigation in 2006 for allegedly sexually molesting five girls, some of whom are his sisters.

He was never prosecuted and the statute of limitations ran out.

TMZ

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
88. I'd bet it's one of the sisters
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:06 PM
May 2015

and that the family told her to do it. Gotta protect the family rep or else they could lose their show.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
93. But as pointe out upthread I should
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:10 PM
May 2015

be more worried about a 17 year old's privacy rights than the fact that five victims-all under the age of 13-saw absolutely no justice. Oh, and he's now married with a son and a daughter and another daughter on the way.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
130. I thought number four was due this summer.
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:02 PM
May 2015

I can't keep up with them all. I remembered one daughter and I knew the one due this summer is a girl because someone posted it a few weeks ago on Facebook.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
142. The oldest is a girl, then they have two sons, and a girl on the way.
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:44 PM
May 2015

I am not proud that I know this.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
146. I just had someone else mention the same thing on Facebook.
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:03 PM
May 2015

They demanded that I remove the link immediately because of his minor status at the time of the crime.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
99. The Duggars Respond to Reports That Josh Duggar Was Accused of Child Molestation
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:20 PM
May 2015
"Twelve years ago, as a young teenager, I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends," Josh, 27, tells PEOPLE in a statement. "I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing, and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life."

Josh has resigned from his position at the Family Research Council as a result of the accusations becoming public, but his family has stood behind him.


http://www.people.com/article/josh-duggar-molestation-accusations-duggars-respond

Everything's all better now.



"I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my sisters' life lives."

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
106. What the ever loving f***.
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:46 PM
May 2015

I want every damn anti-LGBT hate monger to shut up forever.

My heart goes out to everyone he sexually abused. They deserve better than this. They deserve justice.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
127. His sisters' lives were ruined the second they were born into that family.
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:01 PM
May 2015

Josh made a bad situation much worse.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
190. I agree with you smokey nj.
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:22 AM
May 2015

I watched it a few times and was actually really enjoying the kids, they were funny, sweet and made me laugh. Then I learned how they were raised - the oldest girls each having a younger one to mentor and watch over as they grew from the time they were a baby - getting up in the night with them, feeding, changing and all, the mountains of laundry one girl was assigned to, the cooking to another, homeschooling to another ..... and on and on. The oldest girls seemed to be relegated to almost household slave status - but with just enough perks such as family fun times, traveling etc. that they really shouldn't complain. I don't think I ever saw Michelle do much work - and Jim Bob, none at all - though I'm sure he probably must have. The boys seemed to just play, though I'm sure they must have dome something else, too.

It will be interesting years from now to see if how they were raised affects these girls negatively, especially those who do not marry into the same. Those who were assaulted - just very sad for them. It's something that no matter how much counseling you get and how many years go by, never leaves you. They'll have the additional horror of wondering why their parents chose to place them right back in the same situation with him once he got home, why they didn't notice something was going on, why their own brother could do what he did. And I know that they'll mostly blame themselves. He sentenced them to a lifetime of questioning their self-worth, which is a devastating thing to do to someone. Maybe they'll all move on and overcome this to be a happy family - it's just my opinion though that the lid's going to blow for some of them, eventually.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
145. Actually, one of the victims wasn't his sister. And he makes it sound like he and his parents
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:00 PM
May 2015

set out to confess and take responsibility. Actually, they conspired to cover it up. They took it to a cop who was a friend of theirs, and he swept it under the rug....at least until the statute of limitations expired.

I have to wonder if his sisters really got counseling. And if they did....I am afraid of what that counseling might have involved. The church elders had no problem taking part in the cover up--were they also the ones who provided the "counseling?"

polly7

(20,582 posts)
149. I wonder how angry the parents of that other child were over all of this.
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:06 PM
May 2015

I'd be mad enough to do something pretty illegal. I read that cop is in jail for child porn for a long, long time - doesn't it seem strange that he'd be the one who would be approached? Probably Jim Bob had no idea, but still ....... weird. I personally doubt the girls got any kind of counseling that would help much, and believe they're going to struggle with this emotionally for a long, long time. Anyone who's been through any kind of sexual assault knows that it never, ever leaves you - I can't imagine being kept awake at night trying to understand how your own brother could do this, and what you did to deserve it.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
155. And then for them to have to carry on on camera like everything was hunky dory and
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:22 PM
May 2015

they were one big BIG happy family and all loved each other under Gawd 'n' Jebus ... Ugh!

polly7

(20,582 posts)
156. Yes, that too.
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:29 PM
May 2015

They were probably sufficiently brainwashed. Takes some sick gall to make them keep on, doesn't it? I guess money trumps all, even your own children.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
154. Let me guess --
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:21 PM
May 2015

the girls were the ones who had sinned! Because they were born female. Unforgivable! Because Bible.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
158. I actually speculated about that in several earlier posts. I wonder if the Duggar parents
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:31 PM
May 2015

or the church elders chastised the girls for tempting their brother to sin.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
179. Yep. That's about right. It's just "sin"
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:03 AM
May 2015

Everything is just "sin." Repent, ask forgiveness, and then brush it under the rug.

Unfortunately, if everything is just "sin," nothing ever gets fixed. There's something very admirable and desirable about repentance and forgiveness, but too many people use it to control others.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
104. Sad story, sad for the victim and sad that the parents and grown children are
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:42 PM
May 2015

afflicted with a form of mental illness.

We humans, we take something simple like "treat others as you would like to be treated" and we create these monstrous religions and monstrous people.

Carlin said that in so many words.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
119. his treatment was working for a family friend for 5 months.
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:22 PM
May 2015

Jim Bob then “met with the elders of his church and told them what was going on.” No one alerted the police or any other law enforcement agency. Instead they decided to send Josh to a “program [that] consisted of hard physical work and counseling. James said that [redacted, Josh] was in the program from March 17, 2003 until July 17, 2003.”

He said the program was a “Christian program.” Michelle Duggar later admitted to police that Josh did not receive counseling and instead had been sent during that time to a family friend who was in the home remodeling business.

Asked about the training center that Jim Bob said Josh was sent to, Michelle told police, according to the report, “it was not really a training center. Det. [Darrell] Hignite asked if the guy [redacted, Josh] talked to was a certified counselor. She said no. She said it was a guy they know in Little Rock that is remodeling a building. Det. Hignite asked if the guy was more of a mentor. She said “kind of.”

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/bombshell-duggar-police-report-jim-bob-duggar-didn-t-report-son-josh-s-alleged-sex-offenses-for-more-than-a-year-58906

tblue37

(64,982 posts)
128. No parents with that many kids are actually paying much attention to
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:02 PM
May 2015

what any of them are doing at any given time.

Nor are they actually raising them. They're just collecting them, like cat hoarders, and leaving the older ones in charge of the younger ones much of the time. As the oldest, Josh probably was placed in authority over his younger siblings pretty often. I doubt the parents were concerned with how he interacted with them--or with much else that was going on in that home. And when anything was forced into their awareness, they undoubtedly did everything in their power to make it disappear again.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
140. I bet you're right.
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:22 PM
May 2015

I read the older girls were all given a younger child - even the babies - to be in charge of - and raise, imo. I've seen and heard parts of the show a few times, it seemed like those girls did everything - the laundry, ironing, cooking, watching the younger ones, packing for everyone for their road-trips, and one even took over the homeschooling of some 'because she loved it so much and was so good at it'. I think the parents were more concerned with their show than with being hands on with the kids, so they were probably flabbergasted to hear it. I think too that most parents would recognize some signs, or at least that some of the daughters were acting unusually, being quiet, sad, jumpy, whatever.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
148. The piggy bank will soon be emptied.
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:06 PM
May 2015

Duck Dynasty ended after people protested. Honey Boo Boo ended after people protested over molestation charges-and the aggressor wasn't even on the show. The perp has been on the show for many years-there's no way people are going to be happy about a network broadcasting a molester.

The show is finally done for.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
152. Well, maybe at least one good thing will come of this.
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:20 PM
May 2015

The poor Duggar girls. They are treated like slaves and chattel, and the treatment is justified by a stupid, convoluted, nonsensical book of fairy tales.

Catherine Vincent

(34,485 posts)
147. On TMZ, there's a family photo of the Duggar family
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:03 PM
May 2015

But when you look at everyone, there's President Bill Clinton standing there. Huh?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
150. Holy shit
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:07 PM
May 2015

They sent him to remodel a building with some guy for a few months and he got 'right with god" and everything is fucking fine? These people are sick.

I do feel badly for the girl he married and has a kid/kids with. I imagine she is quite shocked.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
160. OMG she KNEW?
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:46 PM
May 2015

She must be one of those brainwashed quiver girls.

What a sick bunch bunch of people. And their fans that are brushing this off are just as sick. Those girls are going to end up needing a lot of therapy in the future.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
161. I'm scared that they have already gotten "therapy." The kind that told them that
Thu May 21, 2015, 10:51 PM
May 2015

it was their fault for tempting their brother to sin.

JI7

(89,185 posts)
165. does anyone know when the side hug crap started ? i always thought it was weird
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:43 PM
May 2015

how they would side hug their own family members.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
169. what in the world is a "side hug"?
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:12 AM
May 2015

Never heard of such a thing and can't begin to picture what on eath it would be.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
166. TLC now has another new show "Submissive Wives"
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:45 PM
May 2015

As in the biblical submissive type. TLC has become such a joke.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
205. Are you serious!?
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

What the fuck happened to that channel!? Who owns it now, is what I am starting to wonder. More than a joke, a disgrace.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
167. I'm not surprised
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:46 PM
May 2015

You get a huge family functioning as a closed community, lots of repression and little supervision of the children coupled with male supremacy. I'm not surprised at all.

alp227

(31,962 posts)
172. So where are the "pro choice means respecting the Duggar family choice" posts?
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:30 AM
May 2015

Users were banned? Or the truth silenced the trolls?

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
174. Lots of silence on that count.
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:20 AM
May 2015

The most I've read here defending the Duggars is a few posters defending Josh's age when he committed the crimes.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
175. What a sick bastard!
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:43 AM
May 2015

And to think this asshole had the balls to sit in judgment of gay people at the Dobson family research council/hate center and tell them THEY are going to hell and he diddled his own sisters?????

Republican teahaddists are the scum of the earth!

get the red out

(13,459 posts)
177. Cults are always protected
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:32 AM
May 2015

Cults can do what they want with women and girls and they will be supported in this country. Brainwash a girl form baby hood to have no rights and people will scream at you that her non-exercise of rights she doesn't know she has is her choice. It is the American way to defend this as freedom.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
181. xmas74, I read all your posts in this thread, thank you for the information.
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:48 AM
May 2015

Do you feel this story will die off? I can't imagine that happening, and hope it does
not. One does not even know where to begin, the lack of accountability, the disregard
for the very young victims, and he now has a family of his own?

Ugh.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
191. I think the story has legs.
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:28 AM
May 2015

As Americans, we love mud slinging and love to watch an especially nasty downfall. We're also very forgiving but not usually for what has happened here. Most are seeing this as a bunch of hypocrites finally getting their comeuppance, even if the circumstances are disturbing.

There are constant posts demanding that TLC cancel the show immediately, requesting that all further appearances are cancelled and even that we, as a nation, out-and-out hotline them for this disturbing behavior.

I think it'll last.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
193. I would like to see protective services involved as well....this story stinks so bad in a host of
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:34 AM
May 2015

ways.

Thanks for the thread.

xmas74

(29,659 posts)
194. It's because the statute of limitations had already expired.
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:34 AM
May 2015

Jim Bob spoke with a state trooper, a friend of the family, a year after it happened. There was no report filed. Instead, the trooper gave Josh a stern talking to. (That trooper is now serving a very long sentence for possession of child porn.) Bu the 2006 reporting it was too late-the statue had expired. All the police reports are from that hotlining from Harpo Studios.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
203. In March 2002, Duggar had 5 younger sisters...
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:10 PM
May 2015

From their wiki page, their ages at the time were:

12 years old
10 years old
9 years old
8 years old
4 years old



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19_Kids_and_Counting


This fucker needs to be punished for his crimes.

Sid



xmas74

(29,659 posts)
206. Four of the victims were his sisters
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

and one was a family friend. We don't know which sister was left out. For all we know it was all five and one didn't speak up.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
207. SO do the parents, I hope CPS steps in since there are still children in the home.
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:54 PM
May 2015

Hopefully this will help loosen the insane religious fundie grip that seems to hold some Americans in permanent spectacle/spectator mode.

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