Meet Robby Mook - HRC's ACTUAL campaign manager

[MaggieD]

He has a winning track record and is the first openly gay person to run a presidential campaign. And he has not worked for MONSANTO. So you can discard the lie in the recent OP that claims a Monsanto lobbyist is running her campaign.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robby_Mook

[Agnosticsherbet]

1. I am shocked, shocked that someone would poast an unfactual story

about Secretary of State Clinton.

[Chakab]

21. She let Mark Penn run her last campaign. Are you really surprised that people believed the story

about the lobbyist?

[Agnosticsherbet]

22. It doesn't work to try and change the subject when another OP uses a title that is 100% false.

Her campaign manager has not worked for Monsanto.

[Chakab]

26. I'm just pointing out that her past actions are what gave the story the veneer of credbility.

[Agnosticsherbet]

35. I pointing out the use of false information

In the current election.

[MADem]

55. What a LUNTZ-ian turn of phrase... "veneer of credibility!"

Sort of like covering horseshit with maple syrup!



No one here at DU, piling on so anxiously, vetted that story at all--it took me thirty seconds and Google to find the Washington TIMES source. It wasn't like trying to find the source of the Nile!

You'd think people here would be smarter. So many were so easily fooled. Doesn't say much for their judgment.

Always ask that 'cui bono' question when some curious and crazy news item causes your heart to sink or sing. Or as an old guy with dementia once quoted from an old Russian proverb (wisely--but probably because someone else wrote the riff for him) 'Trust but verify.'

[MADem]

27. Whaddaya mean? (Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...!) /sarcasm ....

Isn't "never mind that....LOOK OVER THERE!!! Ooooh!!! OOOOOH!!!!" (point!!! point!!!) a hallmark of DU "debate?

Here's how I regard those sorts of things--if people have to resort to lies, innuendos, or wingnut sources--or even worse, the latest one I've noticed--trying to get away with using NO LINK or citation at all--then they're already saying, "Hey, I recognize that I have already lost the debate, I'm just firing for effect, here."

I think the best course of action is to stick to the truth, and the high road. People who can't do that, who have to lie and smear and resort to Newsmax and Drudge and Breitbart for their talking points, why, they're to be pitied. They're going to spend a lot of time shoveling sand against the tide. At the end of the day, they'll still be mired on the beach!

[MaggieD]

34. You are right on

I used to tell my kid when he was growing up - if people feel they have to lie to convince you of something it's a pretty sure bet they don't think the truth will do the job.

[Agnosticsherbet]

36. When Republican use false information or out right lies, we point it out.

I feel it is important to do the same for those who are on our side, because no confirmation bias reader app has been included with this site.

[MADem]

61. Yes, but we don't change the subject entirely--which is how some get out of a tough conversation. nt

[freshwest]

38. '"Never mind that... LOOK OVER THERE!!! Ooooh!!! OOOOOH!!!!" (point!!! point!!!)'

[LanternWaste]

65. I doubt anyone is surprised people will believe anything that validates their biases.

I doubt anyone is surprised people will believe anything that validates their biases...

[Agnosticsherbet]

67. Since I first learned of validation bias, I have attempted to check stories

that appeal to me.

[sufrommich]

2. What? I guess I missed that one. nt

[hrmjustin]

3. i heard of him.

Glad he is good at this.

[HooptieWagon]

4. The Monsanto lobbyist is running her Round-up Ready Hillary PAC. Nt

[NYC_SKP]

5. -------"Jerry Crawford as adviser to her “Ready for Hillary” super PAC"-------

Mook is manager, Mr. Monsanto is adviser.

Hillary's Pick for Her Political Fixer in Iowa Is a Classic Illustration of America's Political Corporate Insider Problem
Monsanto-linked Jerry Crawford doesn't inspire much hope.
By Zaid Jilani / AlterNet
March 9, 2015

Monsanto's Man In Iowa

Before joining Clinton's campaign in 2008, Crawford served in a variety of high-profile political roles. In addition to a variety of local positions, he served as the Iowa chair for the presidential campaigns of Mike Dukakis, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry—each one the more conservative candidates in their Democratic presidential primaries.

So it was a natural fit for Crawford to sign up for the Hillary campaign. But after Clinton's 2008 loss, Crawford spent his days at Crawford Muaro, his law and lobbying firm. While there, he represented a variety of corporate clients, including Kraft and Altria (the parent company of Philip Morris USA). He also served as a lawyer for Jack DeCoster, a factory farm tycoon who infamously supplied eggs that led to a salmonella outbreak. His most prominent client, however, was Monsanto.

Monsanto, the agricultural and biotechnology corporation founded in Missouri, is known worldwide for its abuses against the environment and practices designed to crush farm competition. Iowa is a farming state, with agriculture making up a large share of its total economy.

The 2010 Agriculture Secretary election was particularly important for Monsanto; as one Iowa blogger noted, it holds “patents on most of the corn and soybeans grown in Iowa.” The company was also the subject of an antitrust investigation. The Democratic nominee for the spot, Francis Thicke, was a critic of Monsanto and a backer of antitrust actions against the big agricultural companies. Thus it wasn't long before Monsanto took aim at Thicke, allying itself to the Republican nominee and incumbent, Bill Northey.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/hillarys-pick-her-political-fixer-iowa-classic-illustration-americas-political

[MaggieD]

7. He is a fixture in Iowa dem politics

He has worked for Dukakis, Bill, Gore, Kerry, Hillary, The Democratic Gov Committee, The Iowa Dem party, and many more. http://www.crawfordlawfirm.com/attorneys/view.cfm?id=20

Are all those people evil too?

He has also worked as a lawyer/lobbyist for Monsanto. That still does make any of the above evil.

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. A Monsanto Lobbyist? COOL!

[sufrommich]

10. He's been a much sought after political adviser in Iowa since 1980.

There isn't a democratic campaign that hasn't tried to sign him on before the primaries in Iowa.He's got a reputation for delivering the votes,I'm sure the Clinton campaign is happy to have him as would anyone serious about winning in Iowa.

[MaggieD]

12. He is essentially a kingmaker there

I don't think people realize that if we want to win we can't pretend we live in puretopia.

[calimary]

13. Unfortunate but true.

If we want to win, and we want to keep the GOP's grubby paws OFF the Supreme Court. It HAS to be a Dem. Even if you have to hold your nose and vote for Hillary. Would you rather have jeb bush in there (with his little pal wolfowitz in his back pocket)?

[Purrfessor]

15. Well, there are those who would gladly say:

"Face, say goodbye to nose!"

[deutsey]

37. +1

[bullwinkle428]

19. I guess so, in a way, if you want to say that Crawford's work on behalf of Hillary

in 2008 made Barack Obama "King" of Iowa in that year's caucuses!

[LanternWaste]

66. Good to know your mind accepts bumper stickers. The real stuff can be difficult...

Good to know your mind accepts bumper stickers. The real stuff can be difficult...

[sheshe2]

6. MaggieD!

Thank you for some facts instead of all the fiction.

Brava my dear~

[Agnosticsherbet]

9. It is good to see a 100% accurate title to a post.

Thanks for posting this.

[MaggieD]

11. I thought it might be refreshing

You're welcome.

[Hekate]

14. Gettin' so tired of LIES about DEMS on DEMOCRATIC Underground....

What the bleep do they get out of it?

[MADem]

28. A false sense of power.

I don't know how some of 'em keep their socks on straight!

[freshwest]

39. Wearing socks, huh? I thought socks were free agents... n/t

[MADem]

47. Around these parts, they are more like leeches....

Sucking the life and vibrancy out of the site.

I wonder, sometimes, if the admins have gotten a better gig somewhere, and they've abandoned us?

[SidDithers]

43. The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary...

and neither minds lying about her to bash her.

Sid

[freshwest]

69. Thus, 'the unholy alliance' shows itself. Which means they were right after all. But didn't know it.

[MisterP]

16. you mean this OP? where it shows that a Monsanto lobbyist is running her campaign?

and how her cultists look like sad remoras trying to deny it? because they're so empty someone who doesn't care about them in the slightest is running?

http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/04/26/hillary-clinton-hires-former-monsanto-lobbyist-to-run-her-campaign/

[Cha]

18. The first one that uses "cultist" loses. That title ya got there is a misnomer but

don't let that stop the "sad remoras" from pushing it.

[MADem]

48. You mean the "blog" cite that was ripped off directly from the Moonie WASHINGTON TIMES?

And was posted here without ANY vetting or SHAME?

You mean THAT OP?

Why not let us know how NEWSMAX and BREITBART feel about things, hmmmm?

[sufrommich]

54. This whole story stinks of this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/politics/the-right-aims-at-democrats-on-social-media-to-hit-clinton.html

[MADem]

56. Yes--and so many of them are here, logged in on multiple devices, getting paid.

Those swarms are not your imagination.

You don't have to be an expert in pattern recognition to be able to spot it. It has potential to ruin the bottom line for the owners here if they don't check it.

[Cha]

17. Thanks, MaggieD.. someone had to do this!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Voters don't give a rat's ass about Monsanto...

If I asked the next 100 people about Hillary and a Monsanto connection either they wouldn't know what Monsanto does or they would say Hillary has a connection with the carpet manufacturer.

[PowerToThePeople]

23. And that is sad.

No one more sincerely wishes the spread of information among mankind than I do, and none has greater confidence in it’s effect towards supporting free & good government.

Thomas Jefferson.

Luckily we do not have to fear having a "free & good government" anytime soon.

[MADem]

51. I would assume, then, that you despise the spread of DISINFORMATION--and that's what that

honking "Hillary's new campaign manager is from Monsanto" lie is. It's the whole reason for this thread, which pushes back against a Big Lie that was being spread in order to discredit and vilify. It took an anonymous blog post and presented it as gospel. The source of the blog post, because Google is Our Friend, was a piece of shit published--where else?--in the Rev. Sun Myung Moon wingnut TIMES.

Smearing and propagandizing don't end well when they happen in a small community like DU. It's best to stick to the simple truth.

I think we would have a better government if everyone did that in all levels of public life --of course, we probably wouldn't have a GOP majority in the House or Senate in that case....

[leftofcool]

52. Hillary has a connection with the carpet manufacturer?

Does it have anything to do with BenGawzi?

[MaggieD]

25. The better to win!

[Scootaloo]

29. Here's what the OP you are trying to slam says...

Hillary Clinton recently announced that she will be appointing long-time Monsanto lobbyist Jerry Crawford as adviser to her “Ready for Hillary” super PAC.

Crawford has mostly worked with Democratic politicians in the past, but has also put his support behind Republican candidates as well. Anyone who was willing to support Monsanto’s goals would receive support from Crawford.

[MaggieD]

30. "Hillary Clinton Hires Former Monsanto Lobbyist to Run Her Campaign"

That's the subject header. And it's bullshit.

[Scootaloo]

40. It's the title of the source article, though

And wouldn't this guy be running her campaign in Nevada? Honest question there, I'm not 100% sure on how it works, there.

[MaggieD]

41. Here's an idea

Don't create OPs with source titles that are BS.

[Scootaloo]

42. Yes or no?

[MaggieD]

44. It's really a great idea....

Don't post OPs from a source starts out with a blatantly false title.

Simple idea. Hope it catches on.

[Scootaloo]

45. Would the dude be running the Nevada campaign, though?

The more you evade, the more obvious the answer is, of course.

[sufrommich]

53. Emmy Ruiz runs Clinton's Nevada campaign. Here's an actual news

source for that info:http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/politics/hillary-clinton-nevada-south-carolina-staff/

[Scootaloo]

57. Thank you very much!

[Agschmid]

62. So...

You going to go back and delete the post about evasion, especially when you could have googled that information?

Oh DU...

[Scootaloo]

63. Nope, because maggieD was evading the question.

[MADem]

60. The "source article" was a lie sourced from the Moonie Times.

And it wasn't an article--it was a blog post.

A woman is running her campaign in Nevada, so no, he wouldn't be.

[hrmjustin]

31. I think people take issue with the ops headline.

[Lancero]

32. And here's what the title of that topic says...

"Hillary Clinton Hires Former Monsanto Lobbyist to Run Her Campaign"

Figured I'd point that out since you missed it the first time.

[sufrommich]

49. The Ready For Hillary Super Pac doesn't even exist anymore.nt

[OilemFirchen]

33. Dude fucking ADMITTED he knew the headline was a lie, but posted anyway.

Truly despicable. Entirely predictable.

[sufrommich]

46. Where is the original news source for the "Hillary hires Jerry Crawford for campaign" story?

I've looked and if there's a real source for the story I haven't found it.In fact the only "sources" for this story that I can find are on anti GMO blogs and right wing blogs.
He's a regular fixture in Iowa democratic primaries and has been for decades,he started the Ready For Hillary PAC and will put his weight behind her in Iowa,but where is the info on when he was hired and what his job description is in the actual campaign?

[justiceischeap]

50. I've looked myself and the closest I've come to finding anything is WaPo

It's really just a bio on him: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/hillary-clintons-iowa-horse-whisperer-jerry-crawford-aims-for-caucus-kentucky-derby/2015/03/02/9c93b638-be23-11e4-bdfa-b8e8f594e6ee_story.html

Here's the most interesting part of the article (I think--emphasis mine):

A lawyer with white hair mowed like a golf-course fairway, Crawford is something of a kingmaker back home in Des Moines. He has shepherded every Democratic presidential nominee in the most important caucus state going back to 1980 — every nominee except for one, that is. Crawford, 65, still blames himself for Clinton’s 2008 third-place finish in the Hawkeye State, from which her campaign never really recovered. He vows that 2016 will be his year to make it right for her. “I’m trying to make amends,” he said.

[MADem]

58. MOONIE WASHINGTON TIMES. Not "WaPo" as averred below.

The big lede is buried in this load of shit (warning--they blast the morons who can't read with VIDEO from officious - sounding, Fauxlike "reporters"--dumbed-down "noose" on steroids): http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/17/hillary-clinton-gmo-support-monsanto-ties-spark-ba/?page=all

You can also read there that she hired an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, too!!!! Oooooh! And that "librul wimmins" HATE her now and love Bernie instead....because....errrr BENGHAZI!!!!!! That's if you want to stick around the site and have the stench clinging to you!

The people posting this shit should be real proud of themselves.... not.

[KamaAina]

59. Mook? Did he ever work for Stephanie Miller?

[Dr Hobbitstein]

64. K&R for the truth!

Why some on this site have to resort to lies about one candidate to prop up their own is beyond me.

[Sheepshank]

68. KnR for an honest headline

Sheesh, that this even has to be mentioned on a Pro Dem site!