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INdemo

(6,994 posts)
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:21 PM May 2015

Hiilary is for the TPP and then Hillary said "well not sure" then

"well maybe". Watching MSNBC which had a small segment of question and answers with reporter's Hillary said
"I think the TPP will be good for creating jobs and remove some of the trade barriers"
Then she said "but I will have to see what is in the agreement" Well does she think we are that dumb. I mean when she was SOS she knew what was in the agreement because she helped write it.Back then she said it would bring us numerous job opportunities.
When pressed by a reported with a direct question "So you approve " She quickly changed to subject.

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randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. I wish she was against it and would come right out and say it, but ALL GOP assholes are
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:25 PM
May 2015

for it and they are also for a whole lotta ugly that she isnt for.

So while I hope Bernie is our next president, her position on TPP while not making me happy, will not deter me from working to get her in the WH so one of the clown car isnt.

Plus, I have to admit, FLOTUS Bill would be funny, First Husband?

What would they call him

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
3. Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:28 PM
May 2015

Apparently, too apparently, Hillary is following Mark Twain's advice.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
4. Um, when she was SoS, the TPP didn't exist.
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:28 PM
May 2015

Sure, there may have been negotiations, but negotiations are far from the final deal.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. Actually the early negotiatins, early rounds started in 2003
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:31 PM
May 2015

the San Diego Round was in 2012

Timelines are not that complicated.


I am not so sure that the claim that the SOS helped write it is accurate, but she knew what was in it. since the USTR reports to the SOS, who reports to the President.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
10. True, I knew it started in 2003, but...
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:43 PM
May 2015

We still don't know what's making the final draft. Every Nation starts negotiations at the highest starting point. She most likely knows what's in negotiation, but she's right to wait until it's finalized before making that decision and public stance.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. But by the time she left the office
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:47 PM
May 2015

major items were agreed upon.

As SOS she had access to them. Why she wrote in her book that this was the gold standard.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
12. I think she said she...
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:10 PM
May 2015

Wants to wait to see that worker and environmental protections and currency manipulation. It would be crazy to take a firm stance without knowing full details.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. That is today, not when she wrote the book
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:12 PM
May 2015

and that will be brought up regularly.

I am not sure she intended to seek the nomination when she left State though.

As is I am hardly impressed by politicians any longer, I don't care who they are.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. that is not correct
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:32 PM
May 2015

by the time she left state, the tpp was in draft form after many rounds of negotiations- 18, I believe. And in her book she gave the impression that she was familiar with it.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
15. I beg to differ the TPP was in the works when she was SOS
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:12 PM
May 2015

Yes your are correct but for her to say she would have to read the agreement and wasn't sure what was in the trade deal...My point was she was side stepping the issue because if she agreed with her earlier statements when she was SOS she was obviously for it before she was against it before she wasn't sure and now she just doesn't know.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. I doubt any amount of harassment is going to change her decision on waiting
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:42 PM
May 2015

Until she sees the final agreement. The badgering and asking day after day is NOT going to get your answer. It is foolish to keep it up.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
16. Rodham-Clinton on Youtube
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:36 PM
May 2015


US Dept. of State Official Video
Uploaded on Nov 18, 2011

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton delivers remarks on "America's Pacific Century" at APEC Leaders Week in Honolulu, Hawaii on November 11, 2011.



Published on Jul 10, 2012

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged Vietnam to pursue democracy while announcing details of a a new trans-Pacific trade agreement focused on south Asia, during a visit to Hanoi on Tuesday. (July 10)

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