Ireland votes YES!

[Are_grits_groceries]

@AP: BREAKING:
Both sides in Ireland's gay marriage referendum say 'yes' side has won resounding victory

Yahoooooooooo!

[RKP5637]

1. Yea! Great news to hear!!!!!!!!!

[lamp_shade]

3. Hey Wigx... welcome to DU.

[malaise]

8. More like adios

Damn! 3...2...1

[freshwest]

58. I was on the jury. It was a 7-0 hide. Ah, the smell of pizza in the morning... n/t

[malaise]

72. Me too

[StopTheNeoCons]

85. Me too..nt

[polichick]

4. Hopefully, this is sarcasm.

[polichick]

9. Get over yourselves.

[marym625]

10. You are a joke

And your comments will soon be gone

Your wife's ancestors would be ashamed of her

[marym625]

7. bye bye

[Enthusiast]

11. You forgot the sarcasm thingie.

[Major Hogwash]

13. LoL!!

He forgot his hat, too.
It fits like a glove.

[polichick]

5. Great news!

[marym625]

12. Great, fabulous, wonderful news!

Thanks for letting me wake up to something so fabulous!

Who would have thought that such a religious country would be so far ahead of the US?

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. Irish gay marriage referendum: 'No' campaigners concede defeat

Gay rights groups hailed victory in Ireland's referendum on same-sex marriage on Saturday after "No" campaigners effectively conceded defeat in the historic vote.

"Everyone seems to be predicting a 'yes' ... and that seems to be the case at the moment. It's disappointing," said John Murray from Catholic think tank the Iona Institute, which spearheaded the "No" campaign.
...
"I think it's won," Equality Minister Aodhan O'Riordain told Reuters at the main count centre in Dublin, the first of several ministers to predict the vote would pass. "This has really touched a nerve in Ireland today and I'm so proud to be Irish."
...
All Ireland's main political parties, including the conservatives, supported amending the constitutional definition of marriage.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/11625847/Irish-gay-marriage-referendum-No-campaigners-concede-defeat.html

[TM99]

15. Great news!

[Are_grits_groceries]

20. Jesus would be ashamed of your hate.

You are not the judge of me or anybody no matter what you think.

AND how do you know what homosexual relationships are based on? Hmmmmmm.....

[cwydro]

24. Enjoy your stay.

[NuclearDem]

27. Oy, this guy again.

[akbacchus_BC]

17. The voice of reason has voted. What you

going to do, wage a one-person war against civil rights?

[Are_grits_groceries]

19. Oh shut up.

You can't find ONE place where Jesus says anything about homosexuality.
Just take your hate and go away.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. yeah, dude, you're on the wrong side of history.

get over it. Or don't. World's changing, too bad, so sad.

[NuclearDem]

30. Why don't you and Library Girl just kiss already?!

Oh, and minor detail: Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because they were dicks to their guests, not because of "teh gay."

Just ask King David and his special friend Jonathan!

[NuclearDem]

38. Daw.

Just for you, honey.

[cwydro]

41. Lol, MIRT must be working overtime today.

You reckon these trolls just sign up with multiple accounts simply to make a few stupid statements on gay issues? They must live incredibly boring lives. This one will be gone probably by the time I finish typing this lol.

[47of74]

65. I'm actually disappointed

All these cat toys showed up and I didn't get to play with them this morning.

[cwydro]

89. My dogs like to pull the squeaker

out of squeak toys.

That's kinda what happened here!

[awoke_in_2003]

86. As a three term mod

and two as a member of MIRT, I cannot understand these people. Their sole purpose in life appears to be to sign up and spew hate (race is another one that draws these creeps in) knowing they are going to get banned. One particular woman appears to have an obsession with it

[cwydro]

88. I don't get it either.

I assumed the three in this thread were the same person.

[awoke_in_2003]

91. You are probably right...

sometimes one will slip by for a little bit, but the MIR team eventually nails them. All the ones I worked with do a very good job, and stop a lot of crap from staying on the board for too long.

[cwydro]

95. I'm gonna have to volunteer for that

sometime. I bet you learn a lot!

[awoke_in_2003]

96. Yes, you do...

But you see a lot that you wish you hadn't. I say go for it- think of it as your DU civic duty.

[cwydro]

97. Lol!

I will have been here 10 years in
September, so maybe it's time.

[awoke_in_2003]

100. I would of re-upped this term...

but my star expired. It does have its fun moments.

[cwydro]

103. As you pointed out -

I bet some of it is pretty scary!

[Are_grits_groceries]

39. Here:

[NuclearDem]

45. Indeed it wasn't. It was an "abomination."

The same word used in Leviticus 18:22.

My God, you guys make it easy.

[Are_grits_groceries]

49. Seriously?

It was not to be eaten according to Leviticus. God was behind that (according to those who believe the Bible) and not the health department. Nice try.

[Warren DeMontague]

46. "fun"? FUN?!!?!?!?!

Yes, in my experience pulpit-thumpin' fundies fulminating about "cultural filth" really tend to be the life of the party.

[NuclearDem]

55. Can't spell fundamentalist without fun!

Or mental.

[hifiguy]

101. That flow chart is a hoot.

And so very true.

[cwydro]

43. Is that you Josh Duggar?

[NuclearDem]

48. Hey, as long as he's busy being an asshole on the Internet...

[cwydro]

56. Lol! Good point.

The poor troll(s) in this thread are entertaining me over my coffee this morning!

[freshwest]

70. BWAHAHA! n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

32. Dude, that's a fucking fairy tale.

Breaking News: Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny aren't real, either.

[cwydro]

33. Wow, you folks must be mighty skeered

these days.

[SoCalNative]

35. You do realize

that the citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah were punished because of their inhospitality, correct? It had nothing to do with what the fundies have tried to turn it into.

[Are_grits_groceries]

36. Ya know. GOD decides.

Not you or anybody else. This is what Christianity teaches. You are not a substitute or stand-In for God. Maybe he'll fry your ass for your hate.
Go away.

Oh, and Jesus does not say ANYTHING about homosexuality. It's not even in the 10 Commandments.

[Maeve]

50. If you want to play Bible games--God is love and when you love you are like him

Take your hate back to hell.

[NuclearDem]

51. Dude, Jesus didn't write the Epistles.

[NuclearDem]

54. And you know because...

...the Bible says so?

Whee circular logic!

(MIRT front and center)

[NuclearDem]

61. Dude, give it a rest.

[freshwest]

71. Gosh, it took long enough to nuke him. Or was it a swarm of trolls? Lotta posts. n/t

[cwydro]

74. There were at least three.

All one-post wonders.

One would get nuked and another would show up!

[freshwest]

76. Thanks!

[Are_grits_groceries]

57. Ah the old 'Word of God' default position.

You know what the greatest of things was to Jesus? It was love. And when people needed help he didn't quiz them on vocation, bank account, sexuality, or whatever. He said 'Help them.'
You on the other hand.....

[Are_grits_groceries]

53. You are a Christian?

Find ONE place where Jesus says a word about homosexuality.

Paul wrote that missive and many others but he wasn't Jesus although he had an important view of himself.

As far as that list, lotta people gonna be kept out.

[Arugula Latte]

98. God decides?

Really?

And we know this god exists and makes decisions regarding homo sapiens living on one particular planet in one particular galaxy ... how?

How about, some humans are born gay due to natural, not supernatural, factors, and some are born heterosexual due to natural factors. No need to bring in unsubstantiated speculation about supernatural forces that are quite unlikely to exist.

[Skidmore]

23. The level of decency right now for many heterosexuals

is pretty low. We see it in the news every day. Glass houses are easily destroyed.

[glowing]

28. I think they are the ones who find the TV outlets

And news media... Most people are at the "I don't care" level of this debate... Let and let live. And yes, everyone deserves to have their civil rights... So, this should just be a done deal. Another case where the people have evolved faster than the politicians

[Maeve]

25. You forget that most of the 'yes' voter were 'normal'

And we stand with our gay brothers, sisters, cousins and friends. It's not a war, except for haters.

[Maeve]

22. A great first for Ireland!

By referendum, marriage equality!

[cwydro]

26. Great news!

[AtomicKitten]

34. Bravo, Ireland. Well done.

[MNBrewer]

42. I wonder if all these Irish gay-haters in the US will change their last names now.

Maggie Gallagher can take up her husband's last name.
Bill Donohue can change his name to Bill Putin or something.

What will the NYC St. Patrick's parade be like this year?

[jopacaco]

62. Congratulations to Ireland!

Thanks to my grandfather's birth in Ireland, I have dual citizenship. I go to visit my family and friends as often as I can. One thing that I have noticed is how much attention the Irish people pay to politics, even American. I am always amazed by random conversations that I have with people in pubs or shops about American politics. They could put most American's to shame with their knowledge of American issues and politicians. Overall, they tend to be liberal. Even though most are still Catholic they realize how they have been screwed repeatedly by the church so they don't follow blindly. I am so proud of my country today!

[dixiegrrrrl]

78. AND this vote came from a referendum of the people

not from the politicians.
Even better.

[BlueJazz]

63. I'm very proud to live on this planet this morning. The Irish truly have their shit together!

[47of74]

64. That's great news!

Happy to hear that Ireland did that!

[knowledgeispwr]

66. Woot!

Not a fan of putting rights of LGBT people to popular vote, but I'm glad the side of equality won!

[hrmjustin]

67. Great news!

[Thespian2]

68. Love Ireland

spent a lot of time there over the years...in the Republic...the people are most friendly and kind...and very catholic...so, I didn't know how this vote would go...extremely proud of the Irish people for recognizing that gay marriage is a rights issue, not a religious nor family issue...many Americans don't understand that...

[paleotn]

69. Lets hear it for the Republic! Huzzah!!

the old country has come a long way in the last 50 years.

[frazzled]

73. I applaud the result heartily, but not so much the process

Civil rights are not something that people should get to decide on. (They could just as well later decide they don't like it so much.) One group of people shouldn't get to "decide" whether another group should have equal rights.

Rights are something that a nation confirms on its citizens: either universally or not at all. I'm not sure what the Irish Constitution consists of, but I will be happier when the US Supreme Court rules that constitutional rights are to be confirmed for everyone, straight or gay. Then it will be a principle ensconced in the nation's laws in perpetuity--a PRINCIPLE, not a decision conferred by one group onto another. That's not what rights are about.

I hope I'm being clear.

[muriel_volestrangler]

77. It's an amendment to a section that doesn't specify anything about sex at the moment

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/en/constitution/index.html#article41

To that this will add a new subsection 4:

"Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction as to their sex."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-fourth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_%28Marriage_Equality%29_Bill_2015

[frazzled]

80. I'm not sure I made myself clear

That subsection should not have to be added. The statement " The State recognises the Family as the natural primary and fundamental unit group of Society, and as a moral institution possessing inalienable and imprescriptible rights, antecedent and superior to all positive law" should be adjudged to apply to everyone by interpretation, not by the whim of the people to deign to "include" some citizens.

Rights are not a public decision, they are universal.

[muriel_volestrangler]

81. Nice idea in theory, but in practice, 'universal' can get left up to a politicised court

as in the United States. The whim of 9 political appointees is not necessarily any better than the whim of the people.

[frazzled]

83. Really?

And what if "the people" decide that gay people (or people of mixed race) shouldn't marry (as they have often done in the past)? Are you okay with that? It has to work both ways.

[muriel_volestrangler]

84. There's no system guaranteed to produce equal rights for all

You say "should be adjudged to apply to everyone by interpretation", but that depends on the judges doing the interpretation.

[mcar]

75. My people!

An historic vote. Congratulations Ireland!

[pampango]

79. Ireland is at the other end of Europe, literally & figuratively, from Russia in terms of gay rights.

This is great to see. Congratulations to Ireland's citizens and voters.

[Pisces]

82. Ireland!!!!!!! Yes!!!

[zappaman]

87. Kick and rec!

[demmiblue]

90. K&R!

[Eleanors38]

94. Great image.

[sheshe2]

104. Now that is breathtaking!

[sabrina 1]

92. Ireland, the first nation to legalize gay marriage!

[lovemydog]

93. Way to go Ireland!

[rhett o rick]

99. Bravo. Good news. nm

[hifiguy]

102. Excellent

Here's to the Irish!