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WASHINGTON Newly released police body camera videos show a Fredericksburg police officer use his Taser and pepper spray on a motionless, silent driver who was having a medical emergency.
That officer, Shaun Jurgens, resigned from the city police department on May 14. But in a statement to the Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star, Jurgens says he did not violate any policies in the May 4 incident.
However the police department decided that Jurgens use of force was not in line with department policies or training.
The department is still reviewing whether the two other officers seen in the videos Cpl. Matt Deschenes and Sgt. Crystal Hill will face any departmental charges or reprimands stemming from the incident. They remain on duty, according to the department.
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http://wtop.com/virginia/2015/05/fredericksburg-police-release-video-of-taser-pepper-spray-incident/
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)about to be invaded by a SWAT team? These criminals just can't seem to get it right.
eta link for context lest someone think I've totally lost my mind : http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026708231
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)That'll teach him.
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)But the cops will be too busy covering their ass.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)Tell y9ou what...let's skip the robo-cars, and go for programmable cops. Then we just make sure the programming is non-violent.
marym625
(17,997 posts)But it would be better, I think, to hire people with, and train with, humanity.
Whichever is better than what is going on now
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)in a long time. We are just getting to see more of what has been going on for a long time.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I do think that it happened slowly so we just didn't notice like we should have. That and the mentality that "criminals can't be trusted" even when obviously beaten to a pulp. Or the, "shiftless (word I won't even type) will do anything to escape justice."
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)in their treatment of the AA community for a long time. Thanks to camera phones the rest of us are finally seeing it.
marym625
(17,997 posts)No question this is far from new. But I think that the ease at which a gun us used and the attitude of so very many cops has become more cavalier, more abusive, more everything bad, as time goes on. It's like there is zero training except, pull your weapon
tomsaiditagain
(105 posts)The Corporate Police State is slowly taking over. TPP is another notch in the belt.
Bet?
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)My understanding is the guy was suffering a stroke.
I'm an Advanced Life Support EMT in a rural county about 2 hours away from Fredericksburg.
Most strokes -- 93% or so -- are ischemic strokes. That is, blood flow to the brain is disrupted, usually by a blood clot in an artery supplying blood to the brain. Can be partial or complete blockage; can affect a small or large area of the brain.
Either way, there's what we call The Golden Hour.
The Golden Hour is the sixty minutes from the time the stroke hits to the time the docs in the stroke center start clearing the blockage. You need to get to a stroke center within that time. Depending on the severity of the stroke, how quickly you get to a stroke center, and how quickly they open the blockage, the effects of the stroke can be completely reversed or mostly reversed or somewhat reversed.
https://www.caring.com/questions/golden-hour-stroke
Either way, when a person suffers a stroke, there is no time to waste dicking around with a half-wit cop.
EVERYONE needs to know how to recognize a stroke because strokes don't happen only to old people.
Start here:
http://www.stroke.org/understand-stroke/recognizing-stroke
NOTE: While ischemic strokes account for around 93% of strokes, the other type of stroke is a hemorrhagic stroke caused by a burst blood vessel in the brain. Hemorrhagic strokes are bad news, often fatal within minutes.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)She and my grandfather who was blind, lived in a nursing home. They found her sitting up in bed still holding a cup of coffee, and my grandfather not realizing she had passed, was chatting away with her. So sad.
I saw the OP's video last night and haven't been able to stop thinking about what this poor man went through. Not once did he ever show any aggression, and it is such an obviously clear case of white cops fearing another black man, because he's black. There needs to be a massive retraining of our police on a national scale, and the Blue Klux Klan within our police departments need to be weeded out of these positions of power over our lives.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)eggplant
(3,907 posts)(With apologies to George Carlin.)
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)unconsciousness). Worst case, we would pop a capsule of ammonia and hold it with our hand over your nose and mouth until you realized the game was over.
It is one of many tools used in evaluating patients.
But these new protocols. Man, if I had only had a taser - far, far quicker to find out if they are really sick or not.
And you don't even have to touch them first, like they were people.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Is it wrong that my first thought was "Thank the Gods the poor man wasn't shot in the back by the thugs in blue"?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They saw and did nothing. That makes them bad cops.
The myth of the so-called "good cop" continues to be debunked.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Absolute barbarism. Cretins.
TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)That man having a stroke was an immediate threat to this officer's safety.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)mercuryblues
(14,521 posts)for the defense that the electric shock from the Taser is what saved his life and they should be given medals for heroism.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I saw that on Raw Story last night. Beyond words. The cop was forced to resign. The other two cops should resign too. None of them had the slightest concern for the obviously distressed man. It didn't even cross their mind.