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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Sat May 23, 2015, 10:06 PM May 2015

Hillary Clinton has shifted left, but so have Americans

Hillary Clinton has shifted left, but so have Americans

By David Lauter at the LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-democrats-shift-left-20150522-story.html

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But as Clinton advisors say -- and as Gallup's figures show -- something else is happening as well. Compared with 2008, when Clinton last sought the presidency, the country, and the Democratic Party, in particular, have become more liberal on social issues. On economic matters, the country is less conservative and more moderate.

In 2008, slightly more than 1 in 3 Americans described their views on social issues as conservative or very conservative in Gallup's surveys, while just over 1 in 4 called their views liberal or very liberal.

Since then, the number of self-described liberals on social policy has gone up, and the number of conservatives has declined. For the first time since Gallup began asking the question, in 1999, the two groups are at parity, with 31% on either side.

The move is particularly striking among Democrats. In 2008, about 4 in 10 Democrats called themselves liberal on social issues, now 53% do, compared with 31% who say they are social moderates and 14% who say they are conservative.



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still_one

(92,141 posts)
1. I guess Walker didn't win 3 times, or Joni Ernst isn't a Senator. Thanks for the
Sat May 23, 2015, 10:25 PM
May 2015

perspective on how liberal the country has become

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
2. It is nice to have hope though. I don't know how it really feels to be American these days cause i'm
Sat May 23, 2015, 10:37 PM
May 2015

in Canada and sometimes I forget that. But we in Canada are usually way ahead of you on progressive issues and with the push for a $15 an hour minimum wage in LA you are ahead of us on that issue. So it is happening. Soon enough? Nope.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
6. Certain sections where the brainwashing of majority is complete, no.. but, the country as a whole is
Sat May 23, 2015, 10:49 PM
May 2015

much different.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
8. Midterms.
Sat May 23, 2015, 10:51 PM
May 2015

The Achilles heel of American democracy, particularly the Democratic Party.

Over half a million people didn't turn out in the Wisconsin elections between general election season and midterms. If only a quarter of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 or 2012 actually went out and voted Walker would've been gone.

(Yes, Walker was recalled but it again had similar turnouts to the midterms.)

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
3. Yes, most Americans have.
Sat May 23, 2015, 10:44 PM
May 2015

Most Americans now support LGBT rights.

Most Americans are now anti-war.

Most Americans are sick and tired of racism, sexism, and bigotry.

Most Americans are sick and tired of the republicans trying to take away safety nets, and interfering in education and women's reproductive rights.

Republicans suck. Most Americans are very aware of that.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
4. Clinton is going where the polls go.
Sat May 23, 2015, 10:45 PM
May 2015

Which isn't that big of a deal. You're not going to win the nomination of the party or the Presidency by not appealing to your constituents.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
14. Oh for sure. Obama has been masterful while his opponents were napalming governance and the country.
Sat May 23, 2015, 11:09 PM
May 2015
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