Mom of gun-toting Quiverfull family: Josh Duggar was ‘playing doctor,’ so leave him alone

[RandySF]

Responding to criticism of the Christian “Quiverfull” movement, the wife of a Texas pastor who promotes the “be fruitful, and multiply” philosophy, took to Facebook to explain that admitted child-molester Josh Duggar was “playing doctor” as a teen and should be “left alone to live a good life.”

The conservative fundamentalist Quiverfull movement sees children as a blessing from God and promotes constant procreation, eschewing all forms of birth control.

In her rant on Facebook, Carrie Hurd, wife of Heritage Covenant Church Pastor Patrick Hurd, blasted Quiverfull critic Vyckie Garrison for being critical of Duggar, and Christians in general.

Despite having her own Facebook account, Hurd used her husband’s account to address Garrison and defend Duggar who stepped down from his position with the Family Research Council after it was revealed that he molested five young girls — including his sisters — when he was in his teens.

“Vyckie, this is actually Pat’s wife, Carrie. You women want parity in the board room and you want equal wages all the way up the ladder, but when it comes to taking responsibility and being equal in other areas, it is always the man’s fault or responsibility. How many women bait, hit first, but are seldom arrested for abuse………….?” she wrote.

She then compared the then-14-year-old Duggar’s actions to children “playing doctor.”

“When I was a kid, it was often called ‘playing doctor’, there were just as many girls initiating this kind of behavior as boys. Most of those never went on to perp horrible things, ” she explained. “The Duggers, who I have never watched–am not a fan, did it properly and the 14 year old boy should probably be left alone to live a good life, just like girls who do the same thing.”


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/mom-of-gun-toting-quiverfull-family-14-year-old-josh-duggar-was-playing-doctor-so-leave-him-alone/

[Novara]

1. When they're sleeping??

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Solly Mack]

2. He must have been playing surgeon since his "patients" were asleep.

[jwirr]

3. In my experience 14 is a little old to be playing doctor.

[Faux pas]

12. Ditto.

[DURHAM D]

4. Doctors are rapist? Don't think so. nt

[hollysmom]

5. a 14 year old should be beyond playing doctor - it is called past puberty

[Thinkingabout]

6. So, he was giving a vaginal exam, sick sick sick. The old boys will be boys. Nope not acceptable.

The people who hide behind religion should explain Josh's actions is out of bounds, no ifs ands or buts. It should be about the victims and hoping they will find a way to cope with these violations and hope their lives will be okay.

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. So, a 4-year-old baited and hit first???

That's what I'm getting from this sick woman's words.

[CanonRay]

8. "Sick" being the operative word in her case.

These folks are really twisted.

[malaise]

19. Yep - a sleeping four year old n/t

[Scurrilous]

9. More like playing Ted Bundy. n/t

[City Lights]

10. She is a sick, twisted person.

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Oh, and a raging hypocrite.

[Dems to Win]

11. Millions of LGBT folks would love it if Josh and the FRC would leave them alone

I have no sympathy for Josh, at all. I would if he was a shoe salesman or something, living a quiet life -- I would think it was totally unfair for his juvie record to be publicized.

But, Josh and FRC and Quiverfull actively try to ruin the lives of LGBT people and their families, wanting it to be legal everywhere for LGBT to be fired from their jobs and denied employment benefits. It is totally fair game to look at the real personal history of those who seek to deny rights to others.

The Duggars sought fame and fortune AFTER Josh had molested five girls. Pretty damn stupid to seek the limelight, knowing this skeleton was in the closet. Josh should put ALL of the blame on his parents and himself.

[StarlightGold]

13. Ok, these people

need to be more than just scorned on the internet and in person. A concerted effort need to happen to have CPS look into their homes and families. If they are so clueless as to think a 4 year old can bait a 14 year old into genital violation, they are too motherfucking dangerous to allow kids to be around them.

Can anyone simply call CPS an d direct them to their houses?

[AngryOldDem]

14. Gee, it's funny how they're all up in other people's business...

...and then turn around and say "leave us alone" when they are being called into account for what they do.

Yep...I agree with those who say perhaps visits by CPS are in order. And damn, do they seem to have a problem with girls and women. Pathological Christianity.

[libdem4life]

15. More correctly, playing Gynecologist and performing mammograms. Still, I blame those parents. They

F###ing knew. They were responsible. They failed, as did all the other adults. They legally, spiritually and parenting mega fail. Who do kids go to when there is no one sane to go to? I'll tell you...it gets stuffed way down deep inside and there is little or no sane recall. That's how the generational incestuous family pattern works. Secrets, denial, smile big, don't let anyone know.

[Voice for Peace]

16. there's 'playing doctor' when you're little, with a peer.

But an older male sibling doesn't play doctor with his little sisters
or their friends.

[tavernier]

20. Yup.

I work in a middle school. The 14 year old boys have reached or nearly reached their mature height and weight. Most have started the growth of facial hair and their voices have dropped. It doesn't take a genius to guess what is going on in their heads and hormones regarding the opposite sex. Their playing doctor days ended at age five or six when they were curious as to whether girl parts were the same as boy parts. At age 14, they KNOW those answers. And at that age many teens are indeed experimenting with fondling and "petting" (as we used to call it), or even intercourse. But the acceptable way of doing that, as all boys who have been properly educated know, is with a fully consenting partner and with proper protection. And just to make the game more interesting, that fully consenting partner should ideally be of legal age and not come from a family of four brothers with firearms.

[Voice for Peace]

39. excellent points.

I was abused for several years by older male sibling. I know
what kind of doctors they are.

[tavernier]

40. So sorry to hear that.

I'm an only child, but sometimes I fantasized about having a big brother who would be my hero and protector. So sad to read about your experience, so different from the brother every girl deserves.

[shenmue]

17. OMG this moron

Unbelievable.

[treestar]

18. Lady teach your son not to take "bait."

No words of a woman excuse assaulting her in any way.

[Liberal_in_LA]

21. "you women"? weird for a woman to use that term

[PeaceNikki]

23. Not really. She's referring to all of us with a Jezebel spirit.

[Iggo]

31. She means "you women who want the full set of rights and privileges as any other adult human..."

"...in this society."

Gotta cut her some slack. That's kind of a mouthful o' words to be wasting on heathens.

[workinclasszero]

22. The more these right wing cultists make up excuses

for child molesters, the more sane Americans see them for what they really are.

A whacked out republican child sex cult.

Sick bastards. I fear for all the poor little girls trapped in that quiverfull pervert cult.

[SammyWinstonJack]

25. Yes and I want the excuses to continue. Those defending

the child molester are no better than he. Keep it up...you clueless hypocrites.

[erpowers]

32. Fear Of Minorities

When I was reading this story I wondered if this movement was really about fear of the white race being outpaced by minorities.

[frogmarch]

24. Many boys at 14 can become fathers.

Regardless of whether Josh himself was sexually mature at 14, he was too old to use the "playing doctor" excuse.

[demtenjeep]

26. OMG these people are sick

Molestation is a crime and Mr smug Duggar and his mom and dad should be punished.

So they are actually blaming the little girls for getting molested in their sleep?

UNBELIEVABLE

[uppityperson]

27. k&r for wider exposure.

[bluestateguy]

28. She probably also thinks that Michael Brown deserves to be killed

because he jaywalked and stole some cigarettes.

[LadyHawkAZ]

29. Sure- when they're 5 or 6 and with kids close in age, it's normal

Not 14 and 5.

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. Just ask yourself WWJD? - Who Was Josh Diddling?

"Quiverfull".

That's funny.

[Blue_In_AK]

33. I can recall my cousin and me "playing doctor"

when I was about 6 and he would have been 9 or so -- not 14 and certainly not while I was asleep. The multiple victims here and Josh's age make this situation much different, IMO.

[Warpy]

34. "Playing doctor" happens with preschoolers

not sexually maturing 14 year old boys assaulting sleeping sisters.

These have to be the most delusional people on the planet.

[liberaltrucker]

35. If a kid is 5, it's "playing doctor"

14? That's called sexual assault.

[valerief]

36. Ick. These people are sooooo pervy. nt

[TimeToEvolve]

37. they call themselves "pro-life"

yet what they want to cause is planetary death.

[LAGC]

38. Those fucking 4-year-olds, always seducing horny teenage "boys who will just be boys"...

Can't you see it's all the woman's fault here, just like in the Garden of Eden?