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A Desperate Mitt Romney Claims Obama Planted Gay Bullying Story (Original Post) Tx4obama May 2012 OP
Yes, and he paid off an Republican leaning Independent to go along with it. ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #1
Paranoia will destroy ya C_U_L8R May 2012 #2
Just like he planted his birth announcements in Hawaii newspapers! tanyev May 2012 #3
no kidding. That mob that Obama headed up as a baby rurallib May 2012 #22
Bad Fetus! klook May 2012 #39
Someone sent me an email with the Newspaper goclark May 2012 #51
Just goes to show, you need to check that closet very closely for Skeletons before running for teddy51 May 2012 #4
Of course Edwards was ordering new closets built . . . MrModerate May 2012 #21
that headline and your thread title are misleading maggiesfarmer May 2012 #5
He is such a loser. nt TBF May 2012 #6
Odds on a public, candidacy-destroying meltdown by Rmoney hifiguy May 2012 #7
Whether this is the issue that kills Romney's presidential ambitions . . . MrModerate May 2012 #26
Great article! siligut May 2012 #8
He's losing it. marmar May 2012 #9
Oh, yeah, I got that gif. The Ted Nugent Kitteh Killer. freshwest May 2012 #14
It's a long time until November. randome May 2012 #32
in my experience, the first thing a bully does when called out arely staircase May 2012 #10
I can't believe the Washington Post ambushed Romney like that! EarlG May 2012 #11
You're right XemaSab May 2012 #15
Ironically, I think his wife initiated the investigation Solomon May 2012 #61
and so? Would it matter really if he did? Are you feeling ASHAMED, Mitt? fascisthunter May 2012 #12
In related news, you can't run from your past. Snarkoleptic May 2012 #13
Or will this bring the Freepers into the Romney camp now, as some imagine? freshwest May 2012 #16
The first thing I thought was this story was planted by Romney. I find it strange it snagglepuss May 2012 #19
I can believe it. He was accused of planting a story early on against Huntsman for speaking Chinese. freshwest May 2012 #27
+1000 LongTomH May 2012 #47
And just in case you missed it, the best false equivalency smack down ever: freshwest May 2012 #49
Wow! goclark May 2012 #53
I only saw it a week or so ago. It's not new, but the points still stand true. freshwest May 2012 #59
Whoa! That one got by me. Iggo May 2012 #54
Something to do with his living there, and might be partial to a foreign power. freshwest May 2012 #57
Rush with his multitude of marriages Aerows May 2012 #29
Truth, reason or logic has nothing to do with it. I used to listen to him, to see how bad it was. freshwest May 2012 #36
Good, Fresh :) Aerows May 2012 #56
Next, he'll claim Obama made him do it. n/t ProSense May 2012 #17
So far, this is the only thing Romney hasn't taken credit for! Major Hogwash May 2012 #25
Amazing that he claims not to remember the incident. Ineeda May 2012 #18
Indian Love Call. DearAbby May 2012 #20
I was wondering how long this would take... GoCubsGo May 2012 #23
Desperation leads to ridiculous claims. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #24
The Truth Is What It Is DallasNE May 2012 #28
Every time Mittens opens his mouth, he just makes me MADDER. daaron May 2012 #30
Disingenuous, glib, bemused, self-centered, and snooty ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #44
Is he denying that the event occurred? MNBrewer May 2012 #31
He says he "doesn't remember it" Aerows May 2012 #34
It's hard to remember them all. there are so many "little people" in his life. MNBrewer May 2012 #40
Romney has no character Aerows May 2012 #33
YOu know I read this and thought somebody was just b sing. Really this idiot cindyperry2010 May 2012 #35
He can't even tell a convincing lie. randome May 2012 #38
Yeah, that's right up Obama's alley. liberalmuse May 2012 #37
It hardly matters who planted it malaise May 2012 #41
This is what abolugi May 2012 #42
Romney wants to give the American people the same kind of haircut Zorro May 2012 #43
Exactly, and that would make a pretty good Super PAC ad klook May 2012 #50
Obama doesn't need to lie to win like Republicans texshelters May 2012 #45
grace under pressure magical thyme May 2012 #46
Right, Mitt gratuitous May 2012 #48
God I love watching Republicans squirm. MadrasT May 2012 #52
Romney planted this story when he did it, now his crop is being reaped. Uncle Joe May 2012 #55
Well Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #58
It is more an issue of Faux New's bias in opening the door for Romney to cast jp11 May 2012 #60

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
22. no kidding. That mob that Obama headed up as a baby
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:22 PM
May 2012

has to be one of the cleverest and best at long range thinking.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
51. Someone sent me an email with the Newspaper
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:07 AM
May 2012

Announcement about two years ago.
To me, that is proof positive that he was born in Hawaii.
I think it should be the center piece of a response.

Does anyone have that clipping on DU?
 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
4. Just goes to show, you need to check that closet very closely for Skeletons before running for
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:17 PM
May 2012

major office. Ask John Edwards about that!

maggiesfarmer

(297 posts)
5. that headline and your thread title are misleading
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:19 PM
May 2012

unless the author's truly don't understand that "claim" has a different meaning than "imply"

I'm not disputing that he's clearly trying to imply it, but misreporting his response doesn't help anything.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. Odds on a public, candidacy-destroying meltdown by Rmoney
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:22 PM
May 2012

in the next two weeks? One in two, I think. The man cannot handle spontaneous questions and this issue is not going to go away soon. It is entirely too revealing of his (utter lack of) character.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
26. Whether this is the issue that kills Romney's presidential ambitions . . .
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:29 PM
May 2012

Or something else later down the track, it's certain-sure that he will self-destruct at some point. Perhaps not spectacularly, but more like when you ride on a flat tire — eventually it falls apart.

Because the more people know about Romney, the less they like him — and he didn't start out especially likeable to begin with. And that liar label — against which politicians are only partially immunized — will overwhelm him sooner rather than later.

Add to that his tin ear, ill-gotten wealth, and truly fucked-up ideas of governance, and it's going to take a seriously charged up righty electorate to get Romney into the Oval Office.

Or a charged electorate and black-box voting (see Kerry, John).

siligut

(12,272 posts)
8. Great article!
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:24 PM
May 2012
The last two days have revealed the character of Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. Obama stood up for what is right, while Romney has made excuses and denied responsibility for his wrongs. One of these men has the character of a president, and the other held a boy down who he suspected to be gay and cut his hair.

One man is currently responsible for leading our country. The other a wanna be president who can’t even take responsibility for his own actions.


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
32. It's a long time until November.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:39 PM
May 2012

We may see a public meltdown. Mitt doesn't deal well with pressure.

EarlG

(21,932 posts)
11. I can't believe the Washington Post ambushed Romney like that!
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:27 PM
May 2012

As an expert on ambushing people, you'd think he would have seen it coming.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
15. You're right
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:39 PM
May 2012

Usually there is some kind of cloud on the horizon before a story like that.

It makes me wonder if the reason that there's usually a cloud is because the reporter calls the candidate's old friends and the old friends call the candidate and the candidate's staff puts a little smoke puff up to give warning of the coming cloud. If that's how it usually goes down, then it's telling that Romney's old "friends" didn't have his back.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
61. Ironically, I think his wife initiated the investigation
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:02 PM
May 2012

by talking about what fun he was back in the day.



Somebody went to find out.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
12. and so? Would it matter really if he did? Are you feeling ASHAMED, Mitt?
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:30 PM
May 2012

You couldn't know if it mattered, because you'd have to know how heinous your actions were. But in your sick empty head, you see these facts about YOU as being just as bad as what you have done. I see how much a sociopath hates being publicly shamed, and the first reaction usually is to try to turn the tables. Make it about the "other" not your own actions, which always speak louder than words ever will.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. Or will this bring the Freepers into the Romney camp now, as some imagine?
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:41 PM
May 2012

Rush is already on the record this week with his 'Obama's war on marriage' screed, and he'd defended Abu Graib as no worse than a fraternity initiation (prank) before this so it'll be interesting how this is going to be spun.

Now the Paulies may feel hopeful at the convention, but they have nothing to complain about with their leader and his campaign being anti civil rights for certain persons. Their godfather Alex Jones has hosted Romney cheerleader Ted Nugent, too.

All in all, I see no danger to Mittens since he's at least got the support of those who support Ryan, etc.

Just call it, business at usual in the GOP cesspool.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
19. The first thing I thought was this story was planted by Romney. I find it strange it
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:52 PM
May 2012

comes out after Obama's statement about gay marriage. It almost seems like a dog whistle to RW homophobes.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
27. I can believe it. He was accused of planting a story early on against Huntsman for speaking Chinese.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:33 PM
May 2012

I wouldn't put anything below a man who has done the things he has done in the business world, knowing and reveling in harming others. This would mean nothing to him, there is no shame for this. It works for the Freepers and their ilk who refused to support him.

I've read Reichwingers defenses about such things, typically prefaced with anecdotes about how 'I was treated that way growing up and it didn't hurt me, they just need to suck it up like I did.'

In other words, the victims are wussies if they don't 'get over it.' Some become perpetrators and continue the cycle because they can't face the fact they were once victims.

Some people are not capable for a number of factors, temperament, lack of social, family or medical support to just 'get over' assaults. They die by their own hands, become perpetrators out of a sense of paranoia or wanting to win by seeing someone suffer as they did, or die slowly knowing they are not valued as human beings.

The resulting backlash from Obama's announcement was predictable, and that's why I think he was acting by stealth, not making public statements but letting the different agencies make quiet change.

But with Amendment One passing, I am thinking, just my notion, that he saw that his talking against it did no good, or did more harm than good. The people that listened to Billy Graham, who I thought of as milder than his kids, and the rest of the Tea Party in N.C. were not going to listen to him.

Now that he has forced the issue on the entire nation, look to see Rush's crusade intensify and all the Reichwing hacks come out from the cracks and crevices that Kochroaches hide under. There will be a coordinated campaign such as what Sanctorum started, unfortunately by the Catholic and rightwing pulpits across this nation. And those people always vote, always.

This is a little bit of why I get a bit testy with those who seem to want to depress the vote here at DU and elsewhere. Because regressives never fail to vote, so why hand our future over to them?

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
47. +1000
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:05 PM
May 2012

I sometimes think I'm going to scream the next time I read a "There's no difference between the parties screed!"

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
49. And just in case you missed it, the best false equivalency smack down ever:
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:15 PM
May 2012
Classic Bill Maher 'New Rules' on false equivalency



http://www.democraticunderground.com/101726234

Pull that one out when talking to your friends sometime...

goclark

(30,404 posts)
53. Wow!
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:34 AM
May 2012

Thanks for sharing ~ That is a great video!

When was it orignally posted on DU?

Thanks for sharing

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
57. Something to do with his living there, and might be partial to a foreign power.
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:36 PM
May 2012

His speaking Chinese is a good thing and he's also come out against human rights abuses in China, too. Huntsman, a Mormon and Governor of UT, was made ambassador to China by Obama and adopted a girl from there.

A creepy attack video on Huntsman was posted during the N. H. primaries by NHLiberty4Paul. The Paul people claimed it was made by Huntsman or Romney, to make Paul look bad.

Romney may not have sponsored it but it hurt Paul. Since Romney won N.H., I wouldn't put it past him. He appears to be a dangerous sociopath who doesn't deserve to be in elected office.



Huntsman sounds reasonable and gets support from this article from the Guardian. Obama gave him a position in his administration by appointing him to China, but he ran against Obama. Huntsman and Romney are likely pals. It's hard to know when people run in the same circles.:

Jon Huntsman, the candidate who knows how to talk to China

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/08/jon-huntsman-candidate-china
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
29. Rush with his multitude of marriages
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:37 PM
May 2012

Is the last person that needs to be opening his trap about marriage.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
36. Truth, reason or logic has nothing to do with it. I used to listen to him, to see how bad it was.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:50 PM
May 2012

I'd hear the callers, young guys mostly, call up and say with all the enthusiasm of the most zealot Paulbot,

'You are my Hero! You are my God!'

Rush never corrected any of them. Same kind of lapdogs call in to the Alex Jones show, a big supporter of Paul.

Cults don't listen to reason and filter out all opposing facts. I won't bother with my little quote about facts, but that's irrelevant to those who will be voting for Romney and against Obama for daring to cross the Reichwing. All they have is hate and abuse.

Other than that, how goes it Aerows? It's been a while since we met on a thread. Hope things are going good.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
25. So far, this is the only thing Romney hasn't taken credit for!
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:27 PM
May 2012

Everything else - saving GM, Chrysler and the entire auto industry, creating 4.4 million jobs, killing Osama bin Laden, signing the Lilly Ledbetter law - was all Romney's idea.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
18. Amazing that he claims not to remember the incident.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:52 PM
May 2012

This leads me to believe it was routine behavior -- that such incidents just blurred together, indistinguishable from each other. I mean really. If someone behaved that way, even fifty years ago, and it was an unusual act, they'd sure as hell remember it. Even if they had no remorse. I wouldn't be at all surprised if more is yet to be revealed. First Seamus, then a classmate. What's next?

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
20. Indian Love Call.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:09 PM
May 2012

Well his first response, I don't remember it...four other people remembered it...But Mittens has memory problems...honestly is that Presidential qualities we seek in a President? Well, for some reason Ronald Reagan came to mind... When that didn't work, unable to steer the conversation back to the economy, he then apologized for something he just doesn't recall. What??? Well shit, the wimp will be apologizing for America shit he doesn't know happened or not...I mean seriously?....Now he is blaming the Democrats for planting the story....


Do you hear that dull popping sound? That is the sound of millions of Teabaggers heads popping...This is their Slim Whitman record



heee hee he, Join me in singing the Indian Love Call.

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
23. I was wondering how long this would take...
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:26 PM
May 2012

Can't wait to see how they try to spin it in his favor next..

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
28. The Truth Is What It Is
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:36 PM
May 2012

So it really makes no difference who did the research that dug up this story and leaked it to the Washington Post. The timing makes me think that it likely wasn't the Obama campaign, but even if it were, so what. Since some of those involved are expressing remorse it could be some of them stepping forward without wanting to have it attributed to them. Or it could be somebody else. Regardless, it is slimy of Romney to blame Obama without a shred of evidence to back up the reckless charge.

There have been a number of character related issues that have surfaced over the last couple of months but none of those top this. Before this broke I have posted a number of times how much Romney reminds me of Richard M. Nixon. Heck even Ann, with her comment about it being "our turn", has shown lack of judgement on an item of character.

 

daaron

(763 posts)
30. Every time Mittens opens his mouth, he just makes me MADDER.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:38 PM
May 2012

We have to BE the rising tide that sweeps these clowns down history's gutters.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
44. Disingenuous, glib, bemused, self-centered, and snooty
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:22 PM
May 2012

are words that come to mind when I even hear Romney's voice.

Can you just imagine what he'd be like in the WH?

IMO, the more voters--even staunch Republicans--hear this guy talk, the less inclined they'll be to exert the effort to vote for him in November. I predict record low turnout for Repblicans.

Remember these gems? Can you reply to this post with some more?

"Ten thousand dollar bet?"

"I LOVE to be able to fire people ...."

"Corporations are people, my friend"

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. He says he "doesn't remember it"
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:42 PM
May 2012

That's pretty much a denial in my book. He's tried to pass it off as a harmless prank, along with harassing the teacher with sight problems. He walked him into a door, and messed with his car.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
33. Romney has no character
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:40 PM
May 2012

Most of us have known this all along, but frankly, this was worse than I expected. He's a bully and has absolutely no sense of empathy whatsoever.

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
35. YOu know I read this and thought somebody was just b sing. Really this idiot
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:48 PM
May 2012

cannot be serious we are watching this dumbfuck implode in front of us

abolugi

(417 posts)
42. This is what
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:05 PM
May 2012

being vetted by the press is all about Rmoney! Best get used to it....
I have a feeling its only just begun...

klook

(12,151 posts)
50. Exactly, and that would make a pretty good Super PAC ad
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:24 AM
May 2012

"Medicare - SNIP! Education - SNIP! The auto industry - SNIP SNIP!" etc.

texshelters

(1,979 posts)
45. Obama doesn't need to lie to win like Republicans
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:52 PM
May 2012

Planting a story like that would be a BS tactic a Republican candidate would pull like Bush's team creating ads that lied about John Kerry's military service or the Willy Horton ad that lied about the Mass. furlough program, and so forth.

PTxS

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
48. Right, Mitt
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:14 PM
May 2012

You just ran a primary against the likes of Newt Gingrich and Donald Trump. And none of those fine, upstanding, ethical gentlemen thought to poke around in your personal history to find out what you were like at prep school. Or if they found it out, that they forebore to come forward with it.

Is "pathetisad" a word?

Uncle Joe

(58,270 posts)
55. Romney planted this story when he did it, now his crop is being reaped.
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:50 AM
May 2012

Thanks for the thread, Tx4obama.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,391 posts)
58. Well
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:38 PM
May 2012

is it true or not, Mitt? And I suppose that he paid off the witnesses too? And I suppose he's got his fingers deep in all of the major newspapers too, right?

jp11

(2,104 posts)
60. It is more an issue of Faux New's bias in opening the door for Romney to cast
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:44 PM
May 2012

blame on the President, though the host says Speaker Boehner made some kind of claim it was a 'distraction'.

Of course Romney takes the bait and alludes to the fact that yes the sitting President will in fact put a spotlight on his opponent.

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