Regardless of some bullshit concern trolling over Obama's "legacy"...

[Blue_Tires]

I'd like to believe the candidacy of Bernie Sanders is easily strong enough to stand on its own merits without his supporters treating Barack Obama as some kind of enemy...We as a forum can at least agree on that, right??

[TreasonousBastard]

1. I'm sure some can...

it should be easier than bashing our own.

Shouldn't it?

[zipplewrath]

2. I'm missing your point

Obama's legacy on these issues are horrible and Sanders will be amplified/justified based upon it.
What part of that am I suppose to skip?

The degree to which Obama agreed with GW Bush upon issues is embarrassing and a legitimate issue in the primary with the anointed one.

[Iliyah]

3. I agree

[99Forever]

4. Have a chat with Barack then.

Get him to quit trying to cram another UNWANTED shitty "free trade" down our throats and enough with the POWERGRAB of TPA and we'll go from there. That UNWANTED shitty "free trade" deal IS his legacy.

[Buzz Clik]

9. Not if it doesn't pass. Apology accepted.

[99Forever]

10. Does that change the FACT he is pushing it HARD?

Feel free to dodge the question, it's what I have come to expect from you.

[Buzz Clik]

12. Have you read it? All of it?

And, in direct answer to your question: it CANNOT become his legacy unless it is passed. Period.

[99Forever]

13. Did I read the document your idol is keeping held state secret?

Way to dodge, I knew you would. So easily predictable. Period.

[Buzz Clik]

16. I answered your question. tsk tsk.

I suspected as much -- your only goal is to start fights.

I have a cure for that.

[99Forever]

17. No, you most certainly did not answer my question.

Lying about it doesn't change that simple, undeniable fact.

[JaneyVee]

5. Obviously not.

[freshwest]

18. Some of the vitriol reeks of Rush, etc. I don't know why this is going on. At times I think someone

is smearing Bernie by doing this, as it's not what he's about.

He has not encouraged this, he does not talk this way.

It's beneath him and I don't trust those who do it.

[salib]

6. Pointless rhetorical diversion.

"Treating Barack Obama as some kind of enemy."

I do not see anyone supporting Bernie as doing that.

However, many are certainly unhappy about our president's support for TPA, and TPP.

[KMOD]

7. Yes, it would be nice if we did not trash our own as a guise to uplift others.

[Marr]

14. It would be nice if our leaders didn't trash us to uplift 'others', too. /nt

[KMOD]

15. Progress takes time.

Would you cut off your nose to spite your face?

[840high]

20. What takes time? Supporting the 99%?

[Buzz Clik]

8. I like Bernie just fine. It's a good chunk of his followers who really screw up the message:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026727648#post2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026727648#post4

[Cha]

28. Oh you mean just because one of Bernie's supporters called you a "Liar"? Toughen up

Buzz Clik!

They think Bernie's going to win without the President campaigning for him and with him if he gets the nom. They're so invested in their seething they can't see the damn whole forest(typical).. for their little bitter lemon trees and sour grape vines.

[Cha]

11. K&Freakin'R! No candidate is going to win without the Obama coalition and the President campaigning

with them and for them.

Oh, and they ain't going to agree to nothing.. they're too invested in their seething. Lol.. I love it! Ha.. freaking "Trojan horse" pushers.

[freshwest]

21. Yesterday was posted the 'teleprompter' president smear. Along with other 'compliments.'

Some of the stuff is worthy of the Breitbart website. It's that hateful and been debunked years ago. Bernie doesn't talk that way about anyone!

So I don't believe they support Bernie Sanders, they are just an anti-Democrat brigade. Makes no sense, as Bernie is much more polite about Obama than almost anyone else has been.

I can't believe they believe what Sanders does, it's just too far to the right, such comments. They don't support him, they just hate PBO and HRC. It's obvious.

[Cha]

26. You don't say!?.. You're kidding me!???? "Teleprompter" shite on DU about the Prez? WTH?!

[freshwest]

29. Yeah, but I can't find him. He went to Ignore Land. n/t

[Cha]

32. It's okay.. I don't need proof.. I can imagine them scraping the bottom of

the gop barrel.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. Bookmarked so I can read all the comments tomorrow./NT

[MaggieD]

22. LOL - apparently not

Which was easily predicted.

I have to be straightforward here. I've been involved in politics a long time. Now I'm not talking about DU here because I don't know any of you in real life. So don't get itchy on the alert button.

But, IME, the extreme left are generally hateful to most politicians. I've seen them scream, yell, and just generally be rude to and about some electeds that are actually real advocates for a liberal agenda. It's very rare to find a politician pure enough for them. And even when they do the hero worship is short lived if the hero actually gets elected. They are, in my view, very much like the extreme right in that regard. AND that's how many, many politicians see them.

As a consequence they can be very hard to work with when it comes to pushing our agenda and resolving issues legislatively. So they often do not get a seat at the table.

It's unfortunate. But that is what happens in the real world. People don't want to work alongside people that treat them like the enemy. It's just human nature.

[Hoyt]

27. +1.

[bobGandolf]

23. I would hope so! N/T

[Number23]

24. "bullshit concern trolling" is like showering petals on an open river of crap which is what that

post was.

I like MADem's characterization better:

I gotta say, some of the people who are touting themselves as enthusiastic Sanders supporters are coming off like assholes. Total, complete, nasty-ass ASSHOLES. Racialicious, rude, prevaricating, bullshitting assholes. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=14682

'Nuff said...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. It is our responsibility as citizens to hold our public servants accountable.

Even sitting presidents. Even Democrats.

[lovemydog]

30. I would like to believe that. I think it's true of most democrats.

Some of Sanders' avowed supporters here, not so much.

[Bonobo]

31. No blank checks for anyone. nt

[Scuba]

33. I miss the unrec button.