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MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:10 PM Dec 2011

GOP Attempts to Suppress Voting Bite Them on Ass

With the news that Newt Gingrich doesn't qualify for the Virginia Primary, the GOP's attempts to suppress voting in many states has come back to hurt GOP candidates. New voting regulations in Virginia now require election officials to cross-check signatures on primary petitions with current addresses. That was one of the strategies the GOP has been trying to implement in various states in an attempt to suppress voting.

Trouble is, that very process has cost Newt Gingrich an opportunity to run in Virginia's primary election, since too many of the signatures on petitions to put him on the ballot ended up being eliminated through this address checking.

The Republican party seems determined to eliminate itself, and doesn't even know it. Other measures designed to disenfranchise people may have similar effects. For example, the state-issued photo ID requirements in many states may eliminate a number of older persons who no longer drive and who haven't gotten state IDs because they don't need them. The new requirements for such IDs may well eliminate many of those older persons from even being able to get a state-issued ID, due to documentation requirements that may be difficult to meet. Older voters tend to vote for Republicans on average, so the GOP is actually eliminating its own voters in the process of trying to disenfranchise the poor and other groups.

Way to go, GOOPers! Way to cut off your own noses to spite your face!

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GOP Attempts to Suppress Voting Bite Them on Ass (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2011 OP
Thanks for the recs! MineralMan Dec 2011 #1
KnR 10...... :o) To win by scamming is NO CLASS...GOPers are cheaters and scammers...lying too opihimoimoi Dec 2011 #2
They don't give a shit about Newt anyway. LuvNewcastle Dec 2011 #3
Ah, but Newt cares about Newt. MineralMan Dec 2011 #4
If the Repugs were serious about fighting voter fraud ... zbdent Dec 2011 #5
Ann Who? MineralMan Dec 2011 #7
They don't have the foresight to see this stuff montanacowboy Dec 2011 #6
Exactly. That's why they fail. MineralMan Dec 2011 #8
They don't mind losing a FEW Republican votes in order to suppress tblue37 Dec 2011 #33
And all their ilk! Haha! freshwest Dec 2011 #35
This is ridiculous. Those laws were never meant to apply to Republicans. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #9
Absolutely right. They were only suppose to bar Democrats MineralMan Dec 2011 #10
. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #11
Most excellent toons... MineralMan Dec 2011 #16
I agree and they are now up on my FB page. nt stevenleser Dec 2011 #25
Karma liberal N proud Dec 2011 #12
Karma, indeed! MineralMan Dec 2011 #15
Instant Karma, in political time nt duhneece Dec 2011 #23
Priceless. nt bemildred Dec 2011 #13
Perhaps, but I hope it has cost them plenty MineralMan Dec 2011 #17
It appears to me that it already has. bemildred Dec 2011 #19
So it has...so it has... MineralMan Dec 2011 #20
Karma. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #14
Their dogma ate their karma, I think. MineralMan Dec 2011 #18
DUzy!!! Odin2005 Dec 2011 #22
Or, their karma ran over their dogma. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2011 #39
Beautiful! Gag on your own shit GOP. Blue Owl Dec 2011 #21
LOVE IT! elleng Dec 2011 #24
We can only hope! LongTomH Dec 2011 #26
True. Must be vigilant. 2012's not even here yet. I'm sure they've got other schemes. freshwest Dec 2011 #36
Cool but... progressoid Dec 2011 #27
Well, the GOP establishment wants Romney to win, so I'm sure they're not complaining n/t maximusveritas Dec 2011 #28
hee! Liberal_in_LA Dec 2011 #29
the GOP continues to bring the stupid.... blackspade Dec 2011 #30
just one thing: older voters tend to vote republicna on average is not true. Where did that sentence robinlynne Dec 2011 #31
The Republican Establishment does not want Gingrich (or Perry) as the nominee. They tblue37 Dec 2011 #32
Hohoho! Merry Christmas! Hoised on their own petard! freshwest Dec 2011 #34
republicans hate our democracy with a passion. mwb970 Dec 2011 #37
If you think that's bad.... sofa king Dec 2011 #38
With so many homes being forclosed EC Dec 2011 #40

opihimoimoi

(52,426 posts)
2. KnR 10...... :o) To win by scamming is NO CLASS...GOPers are cheaters and scammers...lying too
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:29 PM
Dec 2011

LuvNewcastle

(17,821 posts)
3. They don't give a shit about Newt anyway.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:32 PM
Dec 2011

He's just another pretend foe for Romney to vanquish on the way to his coronation. If the right people wanted Gingrich to survive, he'd be on that ballot, rules be damned. Romney has been the choice all along, they just have to make it look like he earned it.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
4. Ah, but Newt cares about Newt.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:36 PM
Dec 2011

He's pissed today over this. And he's not the only GOP candidate who didn't qualify, either. Sauce for the goose...

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
5. If the Repugs were serious about fighting voter fraud ...
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:39 PM
Dec 2011

Ann Coulter would have spent time in prison ...

montanacowboy

(6,714 posts)
6. They don't have the foresight to see this stuff
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:41 PM
Dec 2011

means Republicans TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are there no Republican Seniors or students or poor - they think it will only disenfranchise Democrats, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fuck you Newt and all your ilk

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
33. They don't mind losing a FEW Republican votes in order to suppress
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:21 AM
Dec 2011

A LOT of Democratic votes, and that is what these ID laws will do.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
10. Absolutely right. They were only suppose to bar Democrats
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 01:17 PM
Dec 2011

from voting. Wha' hoppened?

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
26. We can only hope!
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 04:16 PM
Dec 2011

Karma's a bitch; but, I still think we should be prepared for an uphill battle in 2012. The Repukes are going to haul out every dirty trick in the books.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
31. just one thing: older voters tend to vote republicna on average is not true. Where did that sentence
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 12:06 AM
Dec 2011

come from?

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
32. The Republican Establishment does not want Gingrich (or Perry) as the nominee. They
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:18 AM
Dec 2011

want Mitt to be the nominee, so they are probably quite satisfied with the fact that Gingrich and Perry can't get on the ballot.

As for older voters being unable to get ID--that might disenfranchise a few elderly Republican voters, but it will disenfranchise far more voters from demographic groups that lean Democratic. Many of the elderly people who cannot get the necessary IDs are poor, many are African Americans, and many are reliable Democratic voters because they lived through the Depression and they know that FDR's policies helped and Hoover's did not.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
34. Hohoho! Merry Christmas! Hoised on their own petard!
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:50 AM
Dec 2011

Oh, this just made my evening. Yes, I'm very bad.

mwb970

(12,150 posts)
37. republicans hate our democracy with a passion.
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 08:41 AM
Dec 2011

They continually undermine the pillars of our system of government, hoping to someday bring it all crashing down. We used to execute traitors; now we elect them to high office. If they manage to get on the ballot, that is.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
38. If you think that's bad....
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 11:16 AM
Dec 2011

I recently gave up on an article I was going to write about the effects of Republican rule over the past decade. The statistics were unfortunately beyond my easy use or verification, but here's where I was going with it:

* While life expectancy on average has risen from 2000-2010, it has actually dropped steeply in Southern states, I think particularly in counties under strong Republican control. Poverty and race do not appear to be the reason; poor education, however, does appear to be related. In the meantime, extremely affluent people are living much longer, enough to skew the overall life expectancy, but representing an insignificant fraction of voters.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/15/national/main20071192.shtml

* The areas with the lowest life expectancies also appear to be the areas under the strongest Republican control. Smoking, obesity, low education, and high blood pressure appear in higher concentrations in those areas.

* The argument I was trying to make was that conservatism was the ultimate cause of increased death rates in those areas. Low education rates go hand in hand with poor health and political conservatism (you really do have to be stupid to be poor and Republican at the same time). Poor conservatives are also less likely to fully utilize the tattered remnants of our social safety net.

Now, I wished to argue, that combination is killing voters and damaging their health at an increased rate.

I was unable to come up with actual statistical estimates, but what I thought I could show was that the next election would be materially affected by the mass die-off of stupid conservatives, and that the die-off was directly related to Republican attempts to stymie health care reform, to keep the minimum wage low, to spike the economy while President Obama is in office, and to maintain tax breaks for the wealthy.

The result, I predict, is going to be several million fewer conservative voters nationwide in the 2012 election. Many of them will be dead as a result of the policies they enthusiastically endorsed; as many or more will be in a poor state of health come November and will be less likely to vote. Still more of them will be statistically indistinguishable from the voters that Republicans are intending to suppress, will also fall victim to Republican voter suppression efforts, and will be less capable of jumping through the administrative hoops that were set up to prevent their smarter neighbors from voting.

By backing a tiny, very wealthy sub-set of American voters, Republican policy has actually managed to kill off a significant chunk of their voting base. It amuses me to no end to think that America's conservatives, who have wasted so much time and effort fighting socialism and Darwinism, are about to screw themselves by killing off their voter base through the imperfect practice of social Darwinism.

Maybe I should shoot my thoughts over to Ruy Texiera and see if he can do anything with it. I'm probably totally full of crap, though, because I'm a terrible statistician.


EC

(12,287 posts)
40. With so many homes being forclosed
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 11:55 AM
Dec 2011

I'm guessing a lot of addresses have changed. Isn't Virginia kinda a transitory State? Many of the people that work in D.C. live there, so every 4 years there is a turn over.

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