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Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
Tue May 26, 2015, 10:46 AM May 2015

I am not going to say anything bad about Bernie or Hillary

Us democrats have a chance to move ahead as long as we stay together and don't split like the repubs are fixing to do. The true conservatives want the repub party to go down their road while the new Libertarians want the party to go down another road. If we sit back and engage is realistic dialogues based on common sense the average middle class voter might side with us instead of the pack of crazies.

Go Bernie and Hillary

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I am not going to say anything bad about Bernie or Hillary (Original Post) Backwoodsrider May 2015 OP
because Iraq was ok? reddread May 2015 #1
Difference is conservatives will 100% rally around their nominee. JaneyVee May 2015 #2
any anecdotal for that? reddread May 2015 #8
The evidence is people here admitting they won't vote for Dem nominee... JaneyVee May 2015 #10
lol. a handful of people on DU is your evidence? Ack. Now that is funny. cali May 2015 #11
the "bubble" reddread May 2015 #12
A handful? Seems like much more than that. JaneyVee May 2015 #13
Much more than a handful. Basic LA May 2015 #14
sort of like 2 or 3 DU'ers talk about Sanders' money management so you start a thread about it? KittyWampus May 2015 #16
TPTB know us better than that. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #3
maybe but the repukes are already hitting Obama and Hill and Bernie Backwoodsrider May 2015 #15
Me either. I like one of them in particular The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #4
yep not going to push either side yet Backwoodsrider May 2015 #5
+1 Agschmid May 2015 #6
before I engage in a political dicussion with a DU member I ask myself Backwoodsrider May 2015 #7
Personal attacks are bad. Everything else is fair game L0oniX May 2015 #9
I will vote for whomever is our nominee FLPanhandle May 2015 #17
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
1. because Iraq was ok?
Tue May 26, 2015, 10:49 AM
May 2015

BIG difference, and that wont be on Scarborough in the morning.
does blowback concern you?
we need no more imperial militarism adventures.
and we desperately need accountability.
only one shot at that.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. Difference is conservatives will 100% rally around their nominee.
Tue May 26, 2015, 10:52 AM
May 2015

So they have a huge advantage in unity as opposed to here where half will not vote for the possible party nominee. Advantage: conservatives. Which is a shame since Repubs will be defending 26 senate seats and we have a huge opportunity to take back the senate.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
8. any anecdotal for that?
Tue May 26, 2015, 11:19 AM
May 2015

Remember Ross Perot?
How about John Anderson?
A great deal of uncertainty lurks in hindsight results.
simplicity will not be your friend in the end.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
10. The evidence is people here admitting they won't vote for Dem nominee...
Tue May 26, 2015, 11:28 AM
May 2015

Unless it's their preferred candidate.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
16. sort of like 2 or 3 DU'ers talk about Sanders' money management so you start a thread about it?
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:26 PM
May 2015
 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
3. TPTB know us better than that.
Tue May 26, 2015, 10:55 AM
May 2015

2008 was the most acrimonious nomination fight imaginable, between two nearly ideologically identical candidates.

Yet in the end the losers pulled the general election lever for the victor.

When the 2016 nominee faces off against Jeb Bush, Democrats will all vote for our nominee - I don't care what they say.

Between now and my state's caucus, there's no reason to settle.

Go Bernie.

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
15. maybe but the repukes are already hitting Obama and Hill and Bernie
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:24 PM
May 2015

They know it is not productive to criticize their own, they attack the dems but each other not so much. Wonder if the repub campaign managers are counting on the far left to drag Hillary through the mud better than they can? We are killing each other. Maybe instead of dragging up a vote Hillary did based on bad information or Bernies far left votes we should be shining the spot light on the repub clown car.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
4. Me either. I like one of them in particular
Tue May 26, 2015, 10:56 AM
May 2015

and will most likely support that candidate in the primary, but I'm not going to trash the other one. There's no point in tearing down someone who could be the nominee, nor is there any reason to tear down the people who support them. However, given the vitriol that primaries unfortunately seem to inspire, I'm not going to attach the avatar of my preferred candidate to my posts, either, because I don't want whatever I have to say to be pre-judged by some of the extreme partisans around here who might be inclined to base their opinion of my opinion on nothing more than my expressed support for one or the other. I'm just glad all of the Democratic declared candidates are sane and qualified, which is more than can be said for the multitudinous passengers in the GOP clown car.

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
7. before I engage in a political dicussion with a DU member I ask myself
Tue May 26, 2015, 11:19 AM
May 2015

Does this person have a valid point or are they just venting and unable to engage in a realistic discussion at this time.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
9. Personal attacks are bad. Everything else is fair game
Tue May 26, 2015, 11:21 AM
May 2015

Of course posting an OP that attacks hair, dress, voice, or any personal attributes is not cool. If past decisions and associations make someone look bad politically ...tough shit.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
17. I will vote for whomever is our nominee
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:30 PM
May 2015

I would love to see Bernie win, but also think Hillary will be more effective.

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