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Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:24 PM May 2015

Sanders will be 75 years old on election day 2016.

He would be the oldest president elected by 6 years. He would be the first president elected over the age of 70. Life expectancy of men in the US is 76.

How does Sanders plan to address concerns about his age? Would Americans re-elect a 79 year old president? Is Sanders only planning to serve one term?

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Sanders will be 75 years old on election day 2016. (Original Post) Renew Deal May 2015 OP
Ageism is unbecoming. phil89 May 2015 #1
Not in presidential politics. Renew Deal May 2015 #4
You weren't here in 2008. onenote May 2015 #11
True gollygee May 2015 #13
"Get off my lawn" was another popular refrain... brooklynite May 2015 #20
nothing wrong at all to say he and Hillary are old enough to be out-of-touch snooper2 May 2015 #14
Sanders to some degree has taken Hillary off the hook for the age issue. Renew Deal May 2015 #19
I don't know. I'm a 37 y/o female and I don't think either Hillary or Bernie are old and out of touch. a la izquierda May 2015 #23
Do you think it was not discussed with McCain? yeoman6987 May 2015 #39
I would take great care to look at his VP choice. TreasonousBastard May 2015 #2
who would you like to see him choose for veep? I think he will choose Hillary but, I am not worried Hiraeth May 2015 #26
Why on earth would he choose Hillary? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #33
I could be wrong but, I think he and Hillary have already had a private conversation about all this. Hiraeth May 2015 #38
if we do not respect and honor our elders reddread May 2015 #3
What then, is the relevant and specific age at which you believe candidates LanternWaste May 2015 #5
That's a good question Renew Deal May 2015 #7
I'll perceive at his age as simply another non-issue. LanternWaste May 2015 #12
65? treestar May 2015 #8
If his health is good treestar May 2015 #6
The latest pope was selected at age 73. Renew Deal May 2015 #9
Is this all you got? onecaliberal May 2015 #10
Reagan seemed older than Bernie Greybnk48 May 2015 #15
I agree, though I think we remember 77 year old Reagan. Renew Deal May 2015 #18
Reagan was out in the poppies at 50. Enabled by his cabal. By the time it was getting obvious LuckyLib May 2015 #24
What a nice birthday present being elected would be. TheCowsCameHome May 2015 #16
fair question. he will have to address it. cali May 2015 #17
I imagine his VP pick will be considerably younger. nt sufrommich May 2015 #21
Who do you think? Agschmid May 2015 #25
I honestly don't have a clue. I would guess someone sufrommich May 2015 #27
I think that midwest/south would balance the ticket. Agschmid May 2015 #30
I think our lack of democratic governorships sufrommich May 2015 #34
There are NONE south of Mason/Dixon so I have no idea! Agschmid May 2015 #37
I don't think his age is a problem, but.... JaneyVee May 2015 #22
And he could live to be 96 JustAnotherGen May 2015 #28
Happy Birthday Bernie Sanders! CountAllVotes May 2015 #29
Age specific life expectancy -- rogerashton May 2015 #31
Good rebuttal. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #36
so . . . almost as old as Hilary ChairmanAgnostic May 2015 #32
i don't care if he's 100!! I will choose old over sellouts any day! TheNutcracker May 2015 #35
He seems cagey enough to me kenfrequed May 2015 #40
which is why he needs to run with Elizabeth Warren. grasswire May 2015 #41
How did JFK address concerns about his age? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #42
People elected Ronald Reagan despite his old age. bobjacksonk2832 May 2015 #43
And yet his movement connects with voters of all ages... 99Forever May 2015 #44

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
4. Not in presidential politics.
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:29 PM
May 2015
<snip>
Roughly one-third of respondents in most recent national polls say that McCain's age could impede his ability to effectively govern the nation.

These percentages are in line with historical trends. Approximately one-third of voters expressed similar concerns about Bob Dole's age in 1996 and Ronald Reagan's age in 1984. (Dole was 73 years old in 1996. Reagan was 73 in 1984.)

The importance of the age question may be magnified this time around because it threatens to sap McCain's support with one of his most critical constituencies: older Americans.

According to the latest CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, voters age 65 and older currently support McCain over Obama by 8 points (51 to 43 percent).
<snip>

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/15/mccain.age/index.html

onenote

(42,680 posts)
11. You weren't here in 2008.
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:38 PM
May 2015

I don't recall seeing a lot of criticism directed at comments about McCain's age.

brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
20. "Get off my lawn" was another popular refrain...
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:58 PM
May 2015

...and can we distinguish between a personal opinion and an analysis of what the voters' opinions might be?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
14. nothing wrong at all to say he and Hillary are old enough to be out-of-touch
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:47 PM
May 2015

new young blood-

MARTIN O'MALLEY!

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
23. I don't know. I'm a 37 y/o female and I don't think either Hillary or Bernie are old and out of touch.
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:01 PM
May 2015

But that could just be me. I just spent two weeks with my students on study abroad. They didn't seem to think age was much of an issue either; politics and beliefs were (and we talked about that a lot, since we compared corruption in the US to Mexico).

I like O'Malley, but I'm pulling (and will campaign) for Sanders.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
26. who would you like to see him choose for veep? I think he will choose Hillary but, I am not worried
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:04 PM
May 2015

about the age card. Someone has to play it, I guess but, it was not dealt to my hand.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
33. Why on earth would he choose Hillary?
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:13 PM
May 2015

If he wanted her in the White House, he simply wouldn't have bothered to run.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
38. I could be wrong but, I think he and Hillary have already had a private conversation about all this.
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:18 PM
May 2015

I think veep is a dead end job but, I think Hillary will be satisfied to end her political career as veep leaving it open for Warren to become the first woman President in 2020.

I think Sanders will be a one term President and will set the stage for Warren to take it in 2020.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. What then, is the relevant and specific age at which you believe candidates
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:30 PM
May 2015

What then, is the relevant and specific age at which you believe particular candidates should plan to address these concerns, and on what objective measure is that number arrived at?

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
7. That's a good question
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:33 PM
May 2015

I don't have a good answer to that. I'm sure if we polled 1000 people we could come up with an average number. That said, any candidate whose second term comes within 10 years of life expectancy averages will probably get these questions. That puts it at 60.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. I'll perceive at his age as simply another non-issue.
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:39 PM
May 2015

All thing being equal then, a rational mind will perceive his age as simply another non-issue... until or unless an additional contributing and relevant factor is indicated.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. 65?
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:33 PM
May 2015

Most people are thought of as retiring then. Obviously being POTUS is pretty non-retired. We think of other jobs as something we give up doing due to age.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. If his health is good
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:31 PM
May 2015

If he's lived in DC and had good health care all his life and a good history, he's likely to be effective at his age. And his mind would keep working due to the demands on it. Going into his early 80s in the second term might be a bit much, but some of the SCOTUS justices stay that late.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
9. The latest pope was selected at age 73.
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:34 PM
May 2015

And has shown that he can lead a large organization. But I don't think people look at it that way.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
18. I agree, though I think we remember 77 year old Reagan.
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:54 PM
May 2015

How one carries themselves definitely affects perceptions. The latest pope was selected at 73, but is youthful. McCain was 72 in 2008, but moved slowly at times and wasn't always sharp.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
24. Reagan was out in the poppies at 50. Enabled by his cabal. By the time it was getting obvious
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:02 PM
May 2015

that he was struggling, Nancy had been covering for him for years.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
27. I honestly don't have a clue. I would guess someone
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:07 PM
May 2015

from the Midwest because he would have great appeal in this region. Virg Bernero,mayor of Lansing,Mi. and former candidate for Michigan governor would be a good pick. It broke my heart when Bernero lost to Snyder.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
30. I think that midwest/south would balance the ticket.
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:09 PM
May 2015

Also a governor might be a good idea as they have that executive experience a senator might "lack" at least when it comes to perception. Not a lot of D Governors out there though...

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
34. I think our lack of democratic governorships
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:13 PM
May 2015

is very worrying. Who do you think his southern pick could be?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
22. I don't think his age is a problem, but....
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:01 PM
May 2015

It wouldn't surprise me to see most Americans view it as somewhat problematic. We know the energetic Bernie, hopefully America will see it too.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
28. And he could live to be 96
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:08 PM
May 2015


I'm the wrong person to ask this question of - as I had all of my maternal great grandparents well into their mid/late 90's and those were 'GOOD' years. Like these folks were still swimming and jogging and working out at the Y. Three smoked and all four drank.


Average is average - this is a non issue to me if Sanders wins the nomination - I'm going to vote for him as long as he has a big fat D after his name.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
31. Age specific life expectancy --
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:09 PM
May 2015

Among those who have survived to be 75, the expectation of life is for 11.6 more years, i.e. Bernie's life expectancy is 86+.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr62/nvsr62_07.pdf

I'm 73. Mine is 85+. The figure given in the OP ignores the fact that, by the time one is 75, people who live to be less than 75 have already been eliminated from the sample.

Of course, the probability death within 4 or 8 years is greater than it would be for a person of, say, 42. I'm taking some precautions in case I'm one of the unlucky ones. A careful choice of a vice presidential candidate would be good. Kshama is young and vigorous.

Dementia is really the greater worry. We have lived through two presidents with probable dementia -- Wilson and Reagan -- and the real danger is that, by the time the person's cognitive function is seriously deteriorated, she or he may be unaware of that, and the evidence may not be clear enough for constitutional procedures to remove the sitting president. Bernie seems to me to be pretty sharp, though.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
40. He seems cagey enough to me
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:28 PM
May 2015

Mentally he seems fairly cagey and intelligent and physically he seems fit for his age. Do we really want to bring up his age as a negative here?

 

bobjacksonk2832

(50 posts)
43. People elected Ronald Reagan despite his old age.
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:39 PM
May 2015

I'm sure Bernie will be fine, as long as he performs well during his campaign.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
44. And yet his movement connects with voters of all ages...
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:40 PM
May 2015

....even those who will be voting for their very first time.

Way cool, huh!!!

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