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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:22 PM May 2012

"It's in the top five moments of my lifetime" Debra Messing


Joe Biden’s Will & Grace Shout-out Was ‘One of the Proudest Moments’ of Debra Messing’s Life


When Joe Biden let it slip on Sunday's Meet the Press that he's now completely comfortable with gay people marrying each other, he attributed the nation's shift on gay rights to the trailblazing gay-themed sitcom Will & Grace. "I think Will & Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done so far," Biden told David Gregory. Last night, during a Joyful Heart Foundation gala at Cipriani Wall Street, Debra Messing, one of the show's titular stars, told us how it felt to hear the vice-president say that.

"I think it was one of the proudest moments of my entire life, besides the birth of my son," she told us. "It's in the top five moments of my lifetime. You know, we knew when we were doing Will & Grace that we were doing something important that was having social effect and political effect, but to have the vice-president of the United States come out in support of equal rights and marriage rights for gay and lesbian people, and to say that our show did more than anything else is an incredibly humbling thing to hear and just makes me feel grateful over and over again that I was lucky enough to have been at the right place at the right time with the right people."



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"It's in the top five moments of my lifetime" Debra Messing (Original Post) jillan May 2012 OP
good for her. nt seabeyond May 2012 #1
Awww, she deserves some treestar May 2012 #2
k&r... spanone May 2012 #3
Grace was a good name for her NeverEnuff May 2012 #4
Oh, that is beautiful Canuckistanian May 2012 #5
They should (and probably will) invite the whole cast to the convention. DURHAM D May 2012 #6
What a cool response! loyalsister May 2012 #7
Good for her. texshelters May 2012 #8
Jodie Dallas was gay from the first episode. eggplant May 2012 #13
MICKEY MOUSE'S DOG WAS GAY?!! Dr. Strange May 2012 #16
I remember that show fondly rox63 May 2012 #20
for the audience texshelters May 2012 #21
Thank you, Mr. Vice President. n/t spockeye May 2012 #9
Funny how nobody's talking about the mealy-mouthed Obama "evolution" statements rocktivity May 2012 #10
You know I thought the Biden comment was lame rufus dog May 2012 #11
Still watch those reruns. progressoid May 2012 #12
Karen and Jack! hamsterjill May 2012 #17
Yep. progressoid May 2012 #19
and a much better role.. happerbolic May 2012 #14
"...that I was lucky enough Control-Z May 2012 #15
That show was classic. bigwillq May 2012 #18

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
5. Oh, that is beautiful
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:34 PM
May 2012

What a wonderful reaction - and Biden does deserves his share of credit himself for what happened.

texshelters

(1,979 posts)
8. Good for her.
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:04 PM
May 2012

I remember many earlier shows that had main gay characters, but none lasted as long and was seen by so many viewers.

I liked Billy Crystal in "Soap" as a kid and I thought the way he dealt with being gay funny while dignified. If I remember correctly, the character on Soap came out during the show.

PTxS

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
13. Jodie Dallas was gay from the first episode.
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:49 AM
May 2012

His brother Danny was in denial about it ("my brother -- he's such a kidder...&quot for a number of episodes.

I think my favorite bit involving his character (ok, there are two) were:

- Filming the commercial for breakfast cereal ("hi, I'm Mr. Peppy Flake, I used to be a shleppy flake...&quot
- Meeting Carol's mom ("So you're a homo! We don't have homos in Texas!&quot

The whole series is out on DVD, and it's just a funny now as it was when it first aired.

texshelters

(1,979 posts)
21. for the audience
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:17 PM
May 2012

but I think the character came out to other characters during the show. However, I may remember this incorrectly. Wasn't there a woman who wanted to be with him, but he had to tell her during the show he was gay?

Whatever the facts, I thought Jodie was a good character and the show much more entertaining than Will and Grace.

PTxS

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
10. Funny how nobody's talking about the mealy-mouthed Obama "evolution" statements
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:25 PM
May 2012

Last edited Fri Sep 7, 2012, 01:34 AM - Edit history (1)

that REALLY set off this entire drama -- but then again, that was the point. You think it's an accident that Biden said what he did, and how Obama followed it up?

Not that I'm complaining: Obama has since said that he was planning to say something pro-gay marriage prior to the Democratic convention, but I believe that he realized that doing that would be too little, too late. Now LGBTs and progressives are happy with Obama, and as long as he doesn't "interfere" on the state level, anti-LGBTs and conservatives will be happy enough.

In short, mission accomplished.


rocktivity

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
11. You know I thought the Biden comment was lame
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:28 PM
May 2012

but now I have to reconsider, glad it was such a big event in her life.

Now, what the hell made this lady so incredibly sexy? And this is not a put down, I truly want to know others input because I found her incredibly sexy.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
17. Karen and Jack!
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:54 PM
May 2012

Karen and Jack rate right up there with Niles and CC as far as supporting actors who could steal the show!

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
15. "...that I was lucky enough
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:16 PM
May 2012

to have been at the right place at the right time with the right people."

She didn't act deserving, "take a lot of credit" or claim to have "worked so hard" the way some people do.

She recognized that luck and help from others put her in such a wonderful job and she expressed gratitude. That is one of the big differences in a bleeding heart liberal and a pull yourself up by your bootstraps conservative.

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