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Joe Bidens Will & Grace Shout-out Was One of the Proudest Moments of Debra Messings Life
When Joe Biden let it slip on Sunday's Meet the Press that he's now completely comfortable with gay people marrying each other, he attributed the nation's shift on gay rights to the trailblazing gay-themed sitcom Will & Grace. "I think Will & Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done so far," Biden told David Gregory. Last night, during a Joyful Heart Foundation gala at Cipriani Wall Street, Debra Messing, one of the show's titular stars, told us how it felt to hear the vice-president say that.
"I think it was one of the proudest moments of my entire life, besides the birth of my son," she told us. "It's in the top five moments of my lifetime. You know, we knew when we were doing Will & Grace that we were doing something important that was having social effect and political effect, but to have the vice-president of the United States come out in support of equal rights and marriage rights for gay and lesbian people, and to say that our show did more than anything else is an incredibly humbling thing to hear and just makes me feel grateful over and over again that I was lucky enough to have been at the right place at the right time with the right people."
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)spanone
(135,823 posts)NeverEnuff
(147 posts)Still gorgeous inside and out.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)What a wonderful reaction - and Biden does deserves his share of credit himself for what happened.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I love all of the positive ripples coming from this!
texshelters
(1,979 posts)I remember many earlier shows that had main gay characters, but none lasted as long and was seen by so many viewers.
I liked Billy Crystal in "Soap" as a kid and I thought the way he dealt with being gay funny while dignified. If I remember correctly, the character on Soap came out during the show.
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eggplant
(3,911 posts)His brother Danny was in denial about it ("my brother -- he's such a kidder..." for a number of episodes.
I think my favorite bit involving his character (ok, there are two) were:
- Filming the commercial for breakfast cereal ("hi, I'm Mr. Peppy Flake, I used to be a shleppy flake..."
- Meeting Carol's mom ("So you're a homo! We don't have homos in Texas!"
The whole series is out on DVD, and it's just a funny now as it was when it first aired.
Dr. Strange
(25,919 posts)That show was awesome.
rox63
(9,464 posts)I should look for it on DVD.
texshelters
(1,979 posts)but I think the character came out to other characters during the show. However, I may remember this incorrectly. Wasn't there a woman who wanted to be with him, but he had to tell her during the show he was gay?
Whatever the facts, I thought Jodie was a good character and the show much more entertaining than Will and Grace.
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spockeye
(238 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 7, 2012, 01:34 AM - Edit history (1)
that REALLY set off this entire drama -- but then again, that was the point. You think it's an accident that Biden said what he did, and how Obama followed it up?
Not that I'm complaining: Obama has since said that he was planning to say something pro-gay marriage prior to the Democratic convention, but I believe that he realized that doing that would be too little, too late. Now LGBTs and progressives are happy with Obama, and as long as he doesn't "interfere" on the state level, anti-LGBTs and conservatives will be happy enough.
In short, mission accomplished.
rocktivity
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)but now I have to reconsider, glad it was such a big event in her life.
Now, what the hell made this lady so incredibly sexy? And this is not a put down, I truly want to know others input because I found her incredibly sexy.
progressoid
(49,978 posts)Good show.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Karen and Jack rate right up there with Niles and CC as far as supporting actors who could steal the show!
progressoid
(49,978 posts)I often like the supporting cast as much as (or more than) the "main" characters.
happerbolic
(140 posts)..than that go no where story line she had with 'Ned & Stacey'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_and_Stacey
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)to have been at the right place at the right time with the right people."
She didn't act deserving, "take a lot of credit" or claim to have "worked so hard" the way some people do.
She recognized that luck and help from others put her in such a wonderful job and she expressed gratitude. That is one of the big differences in a bleeding heart liberal and a pull yourself up by your bootstraps conservative.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I really enjoyed that show. So funny.