Study: Each new immigrant creates 1.2 new jobs

[applegrove]

Study: Each new immigrant creates 1.2 new jobs

by Matthew Yglesias at Vox

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/21/8635771/immigrants-create-jobs

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Using US Census data from 1980 to 2000, they found:

Each immigrant creates 1.2 new jobs for local workers.

A majority of the new jobs created go to native-born workers.

62 percent of the new jobs are in non-traded services — anything from dentistry to bartending to plumbing that can't be shipped across the country.

Immigrants raise wages in the local non-traded sector.

Immigrants attract native-born domestic migrants from elsewhere in the country.




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[NYC_SKP]

1. I wouldn't say that this is a good thing.

IMO, most of our cities and states' populations are greater than the carrying capacity of the environment.

Water, resources, congestion, too many people.

Zero growth, at least globally, needs to become issue number one.

[applegrove]

2. I agree. And you get zero pop growth when people have enough to invest in their children over and

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above starvation. Why we need trade with the rest of the world. I know it is not popular here. But trade has made a difference in countries like Kenya and Ghana. And when women know their kids are going to survive they have less than two. IMHO

[Gregorian]

4. I don't think anyone can disagree with that, either.

I can't stop talking about Bernie Sanders. I love the direction of where the attention is going. It's the same as what you said. If we had foreign policies that were friendlier, and the same for here, the world might start looking a bit more humane. Put all the guns away, and...I'm dreaming. That's why I posted something about cheaters that was kind of silly. It's basically love instead of hate.

[Elwood P Dowd]

5. Problem is, our so called free trade deals are not free trade.

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They are corporate written outsourcing/investment scams designed to put more money in the pockets of the rich and more power over our laws into the offices of corporate lawyers. They slap the nice, feel-good names on them like free trade or partnership, and dump a new one on us every few years. People continue to fall for the same scam over and over, though more people seem to be waking up.

[Hoyt]

6. I hear what you are saying, but I doubt you are going to create a job overseas.

In fact, you've made it clear you don't care about people overseas. So, it's pretty much left to corporations with the capital to invest to do it.

I would agree that corporations should pay better, but the Mexican who gets an $8/hour job at a foreign auto plant is better off financially than when they were making a $1 a day trading among themselves. And as Mexico progresses, it'll get even better.

[Elwood P Dowd]

7. We have enough freaking problems that need addressing in this country before we can start shipping

more jobs overseas to help them. I know 12 people that lost their manufacturing jobs in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Not one single one of them is enjoying the same standard of living they did then. They are now working at places like Wal Mart, Dollar General, a lawn care service, and one is a security guard. Most of these jobs pay 8-10 bucks an hour with zero benefits -- a little less than they were making 15-17 years ago. Some of these jobs have constantly changing schedules and often are less than 40 hours a week. When you factor in inflation, they have taken a big hit.

What happens when the American middle class becomes so washed out with these constant hits, they can't afford to buy those Fords made in Mexico? What happens to those workers then?

Finally, you exposed yourself with the statement about corporations investing overseas out of their desire to help poor foreigners. That is laughable, and pretty much says were your loyalties lie -- corporate crooks of America.

[Hoyt]

8. Then, be honest. You don't care about starving foreign workers.

Besides, your jobs aren't being shipped overseas. That's a myth for the most part.

[Elwood P Dowd]

9. So those tens of thousands of factories that moved is just a myth?

All those boarded up factory buildings I see down here in flyover country is just a myth.

You say on the one hand that no jobs were shipped overseas, and then on the other you say these foreigners needed these jobs we shipped overseas to keep from starving to death. You guys will make up anything.

[Hoyt]

11. Yes. The foreign countries need investment. You assume that investment

would mean jobs here, but that's not true. In any event, it is terribly greedy and callous, maybe worse.

Most of the small factories that supposedly closed down, were not efficient and technologically advanced. The old "buggy whip" manufacturer example comes to mind. And those small companies couldn't pay decent wages anyway.

Doesn't make me happy, but old, outdated facilities should close down.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

10. People who are economically secure and better educated have fewer children.

Certainly we have to also focus on finding sustainable paths forward, but if we want fewer people, we need more equality, more security, more educated people.

[Chathamization]

12. If people are moving from an area with poor environmental regulations to one with better

environmental regulations it's going to be better for the environment. There's no reason to believe that a person living in the U.S. is worse for the environment than one living in another country in general, and in many cases it may be better.

[Jesus Malverde]

3. "Depresses the wages of blue collar workers and strains an already overburdened safety net"

[LanternWaste]

13. That's going to piss off a lot of people

That's going to piss off a lot of people who place more importance in imaginary red and blue lines than they do in other humans...