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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:09 AM May 2015

The Rude Pundit - Conservative Silence on Ireland Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage (Updated)

After Ireland voted by a feckin' landslide to legalize same-sex marriage, the Rude Pundit thought, "Huh. Now that a nation that eats Eucharist wafers and shits family has said that they don't give a damn if two men marry, I wonder what our doyennes of morality will have to say." And, for the most part, the response is...not a goddamn thing.

If anyone was going to stroke out over it, you'd think that Bill Donahue of the Catholic League - hell, Bill Donahue is the Catholic League - would be everywhere condemning the living fuck out of the Irish. Except he hasn't. That corn kernel-toothed motherfucker can't wait to send out his press releases of the damned on anything slightly Catholicish. Charlie Hebdo artist leaving his job? Donahue is practically dancing on the graves of Renald Luzier's dead colleagues. Today, Marco Rubio said some fucking thing and Donahue was praising the shit out of it. The Irish referendum was last Friday. Oh, angry old bastard, where is your rage?

It's really kind of remarkable how much the right is just ignoring the vote so far. Maybe they're regrouping? Trying to figure out how to wrestle with this without offending the large number of religious people who did vote "Yes"? Perhaps they don't want to go down the rabbit hole of Irish anger at the Catholic church for, you know, fucking children and abusing women?

On Shakey the Deaf Clown's Masturbatorium of Hate, Rush Limbaugh said not a word today, even though he regularly uses his bully pulpit to bully people over LGBT rights. The blog Redstate, led by Jesus's sandal huffer, Erick "Erick" Erickson, has not peeped a peep. Other than some Twitter hate, and saying there's hate on Twitter is like saying, "We breathe air," the nets and waves are blissfully free of attacks, not even a good "oh, they were drunk when they voted" bit of stereotyping.

Of course, it's not totally silent. The National Organization for Marriage (motto: "One man, one woman, like God intended except for all the polygamy in the Bible&quot said, "This is a reflection on the increasingly secularized nature of Ireland, together with the utter abandonment of principle by every political party in the nation, all of whom endorsed the referendum. This, combined with intense harassment of any group or individual who spoke out in opposition to the referendum, made it difficult for opponents." You know, when groups that harass LGBT people complain about harassment, you gotta almost laugh at the lack of self-reflection.

And the Vatican weighed in today, with Cardinal Pietro Parolin exclaiming, "I believe that we are talking here not just about a defeat for Christian principles but also about a defeat for humanity." A bit drama queeny, but pretty much what you'd expect for a church that's grappling with its outdated beliefs in a world that, more and more, tells it to go fuck itself. That's a sin, by the way.

Surely, this silence will not last. Surely, the hate machine will churn out its incoherent blatherings as a kind of crude response, the cavemen telling the evolved humans how much God hates them for walking upright.

Update: Rude reader Greg M. pointed out that the National Review has yet to chime in about the Irish marriage vote, with not even a word from their array of angry bloggery practitioners.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2015/05/conservative-silence-on-ireland.html

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The Rude Pundit - Conservative Silence on Ireland Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage (Updated) (Original Post) meegbear May 2015 OP
K and feckin' R for the Rude One! nt scarletwoman May 2015 #1
So much for Gods Rath safeinOhio May 2015 #2
The silence has been pretty deafening. Jester Messiah May 2015 #3
+1. Nobody is talking about it, lol. Kind of encouraging. closeupready May 2015 #9
It is wonderful to see the loony religies silent for a change amuse bouche May 2015 #4
Thank you Ireland for this lovely moment of silence. DamnYankeeInHouston May 2015 #5
Hi Meegbear Renew Deal May 2015 #6
Silence is Golden PaddyIrishman May 2015 #7
hehehe nil desperandum May 2015 #19
I did see one Facebook post by a conservative Catholic on my feed gollygee May 2015 #8
+1000. There has to be a very old aphorism about that, closeupready May 2015 #13
NOTE to SCOTUS & All Talibangelical christianists (including YOU, Josh Duggar) ... 66 dmhlt May 2015 #10
Shakey the Deaf Clown's Masturbatorium of Hate whatchamacallit May 2015 #11
just thinking of that title NewJeffCT May 2015 #14
Oh hell yeah, now if some one will just photo-shop a red nose on him.... daleanime May 2015 #17
if they ignore it, their stupid followers won't know it happened spanone May 2015 #12
It was decided by the Irish electorate Shrek May 2015 #15
K & R Thespian2 May 2015 #16
The American Conservative has posted stuff about it nxylas May 2015 #18
bravo. conservatives silence: allan01 May 2015 #20
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
3. The silence has been pretty deafening.
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:03 AM
May 2015

I guess it's because it's finally sinking in on the right that they're gonna lose this one. There isn't any face to be saved, no concessions will be made, they're just going to outright lose. No wonder they want to change the subject.

PaddyIrishman

(110 posts)
7. Silence is Golden
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:43 AM
May 2015

Speaking as an Irishman who happily voted yes for his gay friends and acquaintances with the added bonus of sticking it to our version of NOM their silence makes me smile.

The RP missed out on those lovely people at Westboro Baptist Church who proudly proclaimed that "God Hates Ireland" while using he Ivory Coast flag.

If the Ivory Coast gets smited, well sorry about that!

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
19. hehehe
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:42 AM
May 2015

as you have noticed the folks at the WBC aren't all that bright, but they sure have their hatred locked down pretty tightly.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
8. I did see one Facebook post by a conservative Catholic on my feed
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:45 AM
May 2015

who posted an article by a gay Catholic man who had chosen a life of celibacy and said that his attraction to men was the message from God that he should be celibate. The article was not specifically about the Irish vote, but she referenced the vote when she posted the article.

I said that if God wanted to send a message that he should be celibate, why would God make him attracted to anybody? That doesn't appear to be the message God was sending at all. Attraction to men = message that you should date men. It seems like a very simple and clear message.

I don't understand how people think something can be a message from God when it clearly contradicts the message. They're so obviously simply justifying the prejudices they already had, and not looking for messages at all.

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
10. NOTE to SCOTUS & All Talibangelical christianists (including YOU, Josh Duggar) ...
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:46 AM
May 2015
It's time to pull up the nearest wall and start reading the handwriting!

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
16. K & R
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:15 AM
May 2015

The leaders of the Catholic church can only blame themselves...entrenched in wealth, surrounded by gold...they hate to see their power erode...they are the wealthy slave masters who can do no wrong, or so they thought...When the Irish turn against your antiquated laws, you have lost the minds and hearts of your followers...

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
18. The American Conservative has posted stuff about it
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:30 AM
May 2015

I'd probably be in violation of DU rules if I posted a link, but to the surprise of no-one who's familiar with his work, Rod "if I was any further in the closet, I'd be in fucking Narnia*" Dreher has not been silent on the subject.

*=Line stolen from the BBC sitcom Gimme Gimme Gimme.

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