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TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
Wed May 27, 2015, 03:24 PM May 2015

Tampa Bay Times does not place Bernie Sanders Campaign Announcement Online! I called Media Matters

I just contacted Media Matters after speaking to the news room at the Tampa Bay Times. I called because I was told they carried the AP story in the actual rag today, that very few purchase. Most of their readers are online. This news source constantly lifts stories from other sources, because they are too lazy to actually do their own story. I have read that the political editor or the paper is in New Hampshire. My first thought was that he could have gone and wrote his own story, took his own pictures.

So I went looking for the AP story online. It was nowhere to be found. So I called the newsroom to ask as sometimes she'll tell me where to click, turn right, scroll to bottom and click again. In other words, it's well hidden, but it's there.

She put me on hold for quite a while and when she returned she said, "you're right! we did not put it online, and I have NO idea why". I then told her that we both know why, starting with Florida's older electorate, and knowledge for Bernie Sanders, to hide his campaign. It's also to stop any machine building with media support, as they reserve all of that for Hillary, Jeb Bush, and Marco Rubio. Jeb is not even a candidate, yet the Tampa Bay Times has a special tab/section dedicated to Jeb and Marco called, 'Jebio'.

I then told her there were three places online to see the same AP story of Rick Santorum getting into the race. I also told her the guy funding him right now, is the guy who said women only need to put an aspirin between their legs to prevent pregnancy. They did not print that about Rick. Anyway, it was an AP article for Santorum and it's placed in three places online at Tampa Bay Times. Bernie's should be in the AP section at the very least, but it's not. Not even in the political section!

I made the call to call them out! Then I contacted Media Matters to complain and she took all the info and put a flag on it. I had to take the time to do this. For you, me, Bernie, and the whole darn country!

This proves the Tampa Bay Times is a propaganda machine. Bernie's event was unprecedented!

Go Bernie!!! We have your back!

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Tampa Bay Times does not place Bernie Sanders Campaign Announcement Online! I called Media Matters (Original Post) TheNutcracker May 2015 OP
Kick hard, to kick the MSM in the arse! TheNutcracker May 2015 #1
K&R nenagh May 2015 #10
Good for you! MissDeeds May 2015 #2
Please K&R to the greatest for more coverage of this lack of journalism integrity TheNutcracker May 2015 #3
The Fourth Estate... KansDem May 2015 #4
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show everyone their arses! TheNutcracker May 2015 #7
That's one way to puta label on it. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #31
Excellent Aerows May 2015 #34
K&R MissDeeds May 2015 #5
I think it is on Page 4 onethatcares May 2015 #6
They chose not to put it online, where most of the readers are. Plenty on Santorum though... TheNutcracker May 2015 #8
Goodonya! 11 Bravo May 2015 #9
This takes me back to 2004 nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #11
I remember....and please kick! TheNutcracker May 2015 #12
You're upset about one local newspaper? brooklynite May 2015 #13
No, but I watch the political shit show the Tampa Bay Times puts on....these same editors handle the TheNutcracker May 2015 #14
The Tampa Tribine has always been right leaning lower quality paper, while the Times was more left lostnfound May 2015 #18
The last few years, the Tampa Bay Times (formerly St. Pete Times) has turned into a shit rag paper. Fuddnik May 2015 #43
Why not? SusanCalvin May 2015 #42
Some around here are desperate for people to drop reason and just go on emotions. Rex May 2015 #54
Huh? SusanCalvin May 2015 #57
I'm not surprised...Bernie isn't on the radar in Florida. I've posted that several times already. Sancho May 2015 #15
"nothing will get any coverage until the Lightning is done for the year"? Srsly? KamaAina May 2015 #17
If they win one more game, they will be playing for the Stanley Cup...big hockey fans here. Sancho May 2015 #21
Jeb has not even announced and they have a special online tab for him! TheNutcracker May 2015 #20
I can't go to homeowner's association meetings - lots of Jeb fans. Sancho May 2015 #24
Yikes. As the St. Petersburg Times, it was once among the finest papers in the land. KamaAina May 2015 #16
Yes it's always been great. It's still independent.. lostnfound May 2015 #19
I could go on for days what happened to them. It's political control for republicans in a nutshell. TheNutcracker May 2015 #22
One wonders if $cientology might be involved. KamaAina May 2015 #25
No, there is an extremely hateful relationship between that 'church' and the Tampa Bay Times TheNutcracker May 2015 #26
They made an assole named Paul Tash the Publisher. Fuddnik May 2015 #44
+1000 TheNutcracker May 2015 #49
Calling Media Matters is like calling Hillary campaign headquarters! m-lekktor May 2015 #23
Good, they need to know we're watching and trying to participate above board! TheNutcracker May 2015 #28
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #27
Bernie's event was unprecedented? yeoman6987 May 2015 #29
Really? daleanime May 2015 #38
Yes, but never as many cuz it's always ticketed. Bernie's event was UNTICKETED TheNutcracker May 2015 #50
Thanks! yeoman6987 May 2015 #56
good for you! renate May 2015 #30
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Well done, TheNutcracker! Enthusiast May 2015 #32
K&R! Engage Operation Manta Ray. johnnyreb May 2015 #33
Thomas Paine would be proud of you, How to go !!!!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #35
LA Times print edition today... SoapBox May 2015 #36
K & R L0oniX May 2015 #37
K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #39
Page 6A. HooptieWagon May 2015 #40
Not anymore. I call them the Tampa Bay Crimes. Fuddnik May 2015 #45
Not locally anymore. They coordinate with the campaigns and steer, more than the consultants! TheNutcracker May 2015 #47
PS To add, only 1/4 of their readers were in St. Pete, thus changed to Tampa Bay Times TheNutcracker May 2015 #48
kick rec edgineered May 2015 #41
kick! glinda May 2015 #46
Excellent! Thank you for catching it, & calling them on it! peacebird May 2015 #51
Kick for Bernie!!! TheNutcracker May 2015 #52
Woot! Keep cracking those nuts...you rock! haikugal May 2015 #53
Excellent follow up. Tell us if they correct themselves now. I hope MM carries it. n't freshwest May 2015 #55
I have learned they had it up for three hours the night of...starting at 9:30pm. TheNutcracker May 2015 #58
More info on topic today from those who are familiar with Tampa Bay Times! (LTE's) TheNutcracker May 2015 #59
Perhaps the above post deserves it's own thread? TheNutcracker May 2015 #60
The Attempt To Marginalize Him Is On colsohlibgal May 2015 #61
I have to ask, are you Guy Hancock? NCTraveler May 2015 #62
Gads, we know him well. Total dough boy these days.... TheNutcracker May 2015 #63

onethatcares

(16,968 posts)
6. I think it is on Page 4
Wed May 27, 2015, 03:49 PM
May 2015

of the first section. It took me a few minutes to find it this morning. I did notice that Senator Sanders did not get much of a bio in that article.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
8. They chose not to put it online, where most of the readers are. Plenty on Santorum though...
Wed May 27, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

just saying he's getting in. Not the formal announcement yet. Cover Jeb every day...who's still unannounced! I know it's in the rag....but I watch how they work. It's hidden from most of their readers...they also CHARGE TO READ ONLINE! They pay, and still cannot see it!

gads...please kick to the greatest!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. This takes me back to 2004
Wed May 27, 2015, 03:55 PM
May 2015

and it was worst.

The Republicans cancelled all their primaries. I learned of this nugget reading The Independent... a British center right paper ran the AP filed story, as is. Nowhere to be found in the US Press.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
14. No, but I watch the political shit show the Tampa Bay Times puts on....these same editors handle the
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:16 PM
May 2015

debates! The Tribune does not have the readership nor online. One local newspaper. Your avatar will be burning soon, when they do this to Hillary...when it's too late. I know their specialty. People depend on Florida in national politics. This is why this paper needs to be watched. And, people have to pay to read them online as well. They should have what's in the paper. The girl at the desk first said I had to be wrong...and she would find it. She had to come back and say I was right it's not there and she doesn't know why. Tampa Bay is also one of the most expensive media market in FLA, and one of the most in the country. I have personal political stories about these trolls at the Times, but I won't bore you.

This is the fourth estate. IT's not just one local newspaper. It's major influence or lack thereof.

lostnfound

(17,438 posts)
18. The Tampa Tribine has always been right leaning lower quality paper, while the Times was more left
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:25 PM
May 2015

And higher quality.
It surprises me..

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
43. The last few years, the Tampa Bay Times (formerly St. Pete Times) has turned into a shit rag paper.
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:07 PM
May 2015

Their political editor is a little republican dweeb asshole named Adam Smith. He's the one that Alan Grayson called a "shitting robot". That was putting it kindly.

A few years ago, they ran a fabricated republican story against a friend of mine in a congressional race. They claimed our candidate took a swing at the congresswomans husband. It was a blatant lie, and they refused to print a retraction. Then a couple of years later, they repeated the same bullshit story again in an article about the husbands death (cancer).

I ran another race where they continually downplayed and omitted my candidates credentials and qualifications for office (Schools Supt)
and refused to cover the race unless she started attacking her opponent or did something controversial.

They used to be a fairly liberal paper, then a change at the top, and they took a decided right-wing slant.

Fuck the TBT.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
54. Some around here are desperate for people to drop reason and just go on emotions.
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:11 PM
May 2015

They seem to be losing that war.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
57. Huh?
Wed May 27, 2015, 09:37 PM
May 2015

Even if it's just an oversight, nothing wrong with calling attention to it.

Not sure what I said that you find hilarious. (Don't particularly care, just mentioning it.)

Edited to add that I have no idea if you're laughing at me or with me, hence the above comment. Perhaps I'm a bit slow...... ;->

Sancho

(9,186 posts)
15. I'm not surprised...Bernie isn't on the radar in Florida. I've posted that several times already.
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:22 PM
May 2015

Frankly, I don't think he has the name recognition or money to compete in Florida. We'll see.

Haha..nothing will get any coverage until the Lighting is done for the year.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. "nothing will get any coverage until the Lightning is done for the year"? Srsly?
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:25 PM
May 2015

Florida is, um, not exactly hockey country.

Sancho

(9,186 posts)
21. If they win one more game, they will be playing for the Stanley Cup...big hockey fans here.
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:35 PM
May 2015

Crazy huh? People at beach parties rooting for an ice hockey game.

Sancho

(9,186 posts)
24. I can't go to homeowner's association meetings - lots of Jeb fans.
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:37 PM
May 2015

Everyone knows I'm the token liberal.

The paper covers the Florida candidates. If someone visits, they will put in something.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
16. Yikes. As the St. Petersburg Times, it was once among the finest papers in the land.
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:24 PM
May 2015

It is published by the nonprofit Poynter Institute, which used to espouse actual journalism. What happened?

Then again, the San Jose Mercury News was also once among the finest papers in the land. After its purchase by MediaNews Group, it has devolved to the point where I call it the "cat box liner".

lostnfound

(17,438 posts)
19. Yes it's always been great. It's still independent..
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:26 PM
May 2015

But has suffered cutbacks like every other paper out there.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
23. Calling Media Matters is like calling Hillary campaign headquarters!
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:37 PM
May 2015

the people there are probably glad he wasn't mentioned.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
36. LA Times print edition today...
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:35 PM
May 2015

Front page, story about how Paul, Rubio and Cruz are just like a first term Congress member, Obama.

Buried back on page 8 was the article about the LIBERAL Senator Sanders announcement.

Well, I guess page 8 is better than nothing.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
40. Page 6A.
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:55 PM
May 2015

Probably just an oversight that it wasn't posted online. The Tampa Bay Times is a pretty highly regarded newspaper, that's a bit left of middle.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
47. Not locally anymore. They coordinate with the campaigns and steer, more than the consultants!
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:32 PM
May 2015

They are not suppose to do that.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
48. PS To add, only 1/4 of their readers were in St. Pete, thus changed to Tampa Bay Times
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:33 PM
May 2015

Locals got tired of their political shenanigans!

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
58. I have learned they had it up for three hours the night of...starting at 9:30pm.
Wed May 27, 2015, 09:59 PM
May 2015

So, when I got up and read the rag, I wanted to go online and share it. It WAS G O N E.

The rest of the AP stories were there....even the old Marco and Jeb articles. Today, the Times told me it is NOT online. She said she did not know why. Well it was, for the shortest time of any national story. Most are not up late, and in the morning when they read online, IT WAS GONE. The Times pulls shenanigans like this all the time in politics.

I posted this on KOS and was attacked for trying to stir up shit. "I saw it online last night". He gave the link. It's not on the current daily page, for anyone to find. Not even able to hunt for it. So I took it down there, after the same person said they are a good paper. They don't deal with them as I have, working in politics. So I removed it...and not interested in that board. All is well with them over there.....so I can't waste my time on them. But I wanted all to know what I found out there, about it being up for a few hours. There are stories on the front page that are a week old! So I won't bother with anyone who thinks the media is playing fair. Especially with Bernie.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
59. More info on topic today from those who are familiar with Tampa Bay Times! (LTE's)
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:11 AM
May 2015

These are similar complaints about this 'nooze' institution. These are complaints from those who actually receive the paper on their doorstep. The story was put up the night before at 9:38pm, and removed by morning. So if you read online which you must also PAY $$, you missed if you did not stay up late. If you read in the morning, it was removed. Gone from the current day online edition. Don't forget this is the paper who ignored Nan Rich, our Senate Leader, for republican turned Democrat, Charlie Crist. He would not even debate her. Here are a couple of OTHER opinions, from today's letters.
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Thursday's letters: Don't ignore promising candidate
Re: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:14pm

Sanders vows to fix what ails America | May 27
Don't ignore promising candidate


Finally, there is a candidate for president with a platform of ideas that are truly in the best interest of the majority of Americans. We can only hope the Tampa Bay Times and its editorial board, mainstream media and the Democratic Party will not disregard Bernie Sanders the way they did Nan Rich in her run for governor.

Rich offered the most promise for the people of Florida. But the Times, other in-state media and the DNC all but ignored her candidacy under the assumption that she could not win due to a lack of funding and name recognition. Instead, they got behind a mediocre alternative who failed to excite voters and lost to a highly unpopular incumbent.

Sanders is light-years behind Hillary Clinton in funding and name recognition. But his ideas and priorities are just what this country needs. And we know he, unlike Clinton (as well as all of the Republican candidates), is not under the thumb of big money.

It is easy to conclude a little-known candidate with low poll numbers and a small campaign chest "cannot win," especially in a national election. But the power of social media has never been greater and can go a long way in neutralizing gaps in funding and name recognition. Plus, the electorate has never been more turned off by the corporate-run, big-money politics that have taken over this country.

The media and DNC alone cannot put Sanders in the White House, but by ignoring his candidacy, they can prevent any chance of him getting there.

Chip Thomas, Tampa
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(and.......another (multiple letters in a small space which means the Times received many)

Sanders vows to fix what ails America May 27

More coverage on policy


I was disappointed that your article about Bernie Sanders announcing his candidacy was not on the front page.

I am an avid hockey fan, but the outcome of the Lightning game has far less impact on us than Sanders' candidacy. The next president will have a lasting effect on the nation and the world. The Republican hopefuls have all had space on the front page at one time or another.
Please increase your coverage of the policy positions, agreements and disagreements among the candidates. We need more substantive discussion and less reporting of the candidate's daily micro gains and losses in the polls.

Guy Hancock, Largo

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/letters/thursdays-letters-dont-ignore-promising-candidate/2231310

colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
61. The Attempt To Marginalize Him Is On
Thu May 28, 2015, 12:24 PM
May 2015

The Columbus paper included a bit about him in an article, with a photo, of Rick Santorum. Unbelievable.

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