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(417 posts)and you have to RSVP now.
I'm getting hopeful
I need to check my email. I didn't even k ow he was coming to town!
DreWId
(78 posts)Do you have the details on that, and how to RSVP?
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Maybe now we can get in?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)tblue37
(65,357 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Go Bernie Go!
Today $carah PayMe will report that this crowd got lost on the way to her "non wedding" retitled "Celebration of Life"!!
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)How much ice cream was served?
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)but it looks like more than that.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)since I could not get any actual, I ran with thousands
Trajan
(19,089 posts)When Bernie comes to Portland, we are gonna party !
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)I say it reminds me more like the Ron Paul campaign of 2008. Lots of enthusiastic supporters but very few of the big more people that really win national elections. Obama had both and Bernie Sander will never get the kind of people that financed Obama's juggernaut campaign.
Sadly. American politics especially national ones comes down to who has the most money. Just look at this and see how eerily it resembles the last Ron Paul campaign. Both old men with very radical ideas that are outside the establishment politics.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)to wage a winning campaign.
That's why we who support Bernie are planning on working hard to contact voters one by one.
jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)But I something tells me that it will fizzle and he will just end up endorsing Hillary. I hope I am wrong but I have been disappointed so many times before. Howard Dean was the closest to a grassroot, for the people campaign that had a chance of winning and we saw how the media treated him because of that one scream and then the people abandoned him overnight.
You need lots of money to get the attention of the vast majority of the voters who don't pay attention to to politics or the issues and Bernie doesn't have the money for that.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)It was perfectly normal *in* *context*.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Citizens United and corporate rule. That's the end of democracy or even the barest attempt at representative government.
To oppose Citizens United, you have to run with little money and as little corporate support as possible. Bernie is doing that. Anyone who runs and does not try to win without corporate money is simply being hypocritical and untrustworthy. Sooner or later the donors of the corporate money will, like Satan, claim their own.
It's either Bernie Sanders or some other candidate who forgoes corporate money or rule by the richest corporations.
That's our choice this election.
I choose Bernie. And fortunately, I agree with his stances on just about everything. He represents ordinary people like me who work or have worked and gotten by on not that much all our lives. Bernie is my candidate.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)He was supposed to win Iowa and Kerry got over twice as many people for him. If not for the scream, the story would have been that he really could not get enough real votes.
Iowa was the first place people had to really decide and many met both men. A friend from Iowa commented that many people shifted their allegiance as they met the candidates, but his observation was that few shifted from Kerry after they decided in his favor.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)You ain't raining on my parade, no matter how much you try to piss on it ...
You people .... sheeeesh ...
yellowwoodII
(616 posts)I remember well the euphoria that we felt during the Obama campaign. Sort of like back in the hippie days when we had believed that "the times they were a-changin."
And, considering the problems that he inherited and the obstacles that have been thrown in his way and the fact that he's only human, he's fulfilled a lot of our hopes.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Just think how much better off we'd be if these assholes weren't controlling the purse strings.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)By pushing him to the middle and not running against the obstructionism it allowed the Republicans to control the spin and the narrative. Had President Obama chosen his communications staff and his Chief of Staff better he could have galvanized better support by going after republicans.
Instead thanks to Rahm-bo and his hippy-punching crap we ended up with weak banking reform (that should have been absolutely conditional for accepting federal bailouts), a stimulus package that was riddled with pointless tax cuts that would have been better spent on infrastructure, and months wasted on wooing Olympia Snowe to support a healthcare reform that she refused to cross the aisle to vote for.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Sheesh, I hope not all of the Democratic Party has moved so far to the corporate right.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Bernie represents a return to the values that made America great.
Among these are:
*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
*The right of every family to a decent home;
*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
*The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
-- FDR, SOTU, 1944[/font]
Please note that the above are stipulated as Basic Human RIGHTS to be protected by our government,
and NOT as COMMODITIES to be SOLD to Americans by For Profit Corporations.
There was a time in when voting for the Democrat was voting FOR the above values which are mainstream, Democratic, FDR Values....the REASON I joined the Democratic Party
Sadly, this is no longer true.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)more disturbing is the simultaneous denial that these same people are not "progressive," even as they promote No Labels, 3rd Way something or rather out there... I guess old reflexes die hard, even if there is little to show for them.
There is no similarity.
Hilarious that the same people who are anti-Obama now try to crown Bernie as the new Obama, but he is no Obama.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)LOTS of good people coming to listen to a wonderful orator speak some truth ... the parallels are obvious to those of us who like Obama AND Sanders AND Hillary ...
The haters think I'm one of them ... I am not ... so find another tree to bark at ....
treestar
(82,383 posts)Seriously? You're going to make them equal there?
You should not be calling other posters dogs
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Look at what has become of this place ... thanks to the extreme partisans ....
Don't worry - I'm still voting for Hillary, should she emerge victorious from the primary season ...
I'll ignore her mean spirited followers on DU .... They are a supremely unappealing bunch ....
treestar
(82,383 posts)Not one?
I don't see why we can't all like both candidates. It doesn't make any sense to get mad at people who differ at most on which Democrat it should be.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)This isn't a love-in, it's a campaign for the direction of our country. It's a campaign for the highest office in the land. Shit is going to be thrown. The love-fest can happen after the primary.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Thank Gawd.
I don't believe the Working Class can survive another "Centrist" or "Moderate Republican from the 80s."
Thats why I voted for Democrats, and worked hard to get them elected back in the 80s.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)The guy who saved the economy, banned health insurers from discriminating against pre-existing conditions, and eliminated Osama Bin Laden? Yeah, we really don't want to elect someone like that again.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Oh Wait...No he hasn't.
*Korean Free Trade Deal devastating for US Workers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-cohen/koreaus-free-trade-agreem_b_4965492.
*CHARTS: The Amazing Wealth Surge For The Top 0.1 Percent
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-amazing-wealth-surge-for-the-top-0-1-percent
*"Obama Admins TPP Trade Officials Received Hefty Bonuses From Big Banks"
http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/20/obama-admin%E2%80%99s-tpp-trade-officials-received-hefty-bonuses-from-big-banks
* US Wealthy Have Biggest Piece of Pie Ever Recorded
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/09/11-6
---All those wonderful things you mentioned up thread mean NOTHING to someone loosing their home.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)in spirit...but he's GOT to come to L.A.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)And I love how a few people pulled up behind the stage in boats!!
K&R GO BERNIE
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Go Bernie!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)lobodons
(1,290 posts)Sure hope they know a good ice cream supplier!!
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)he thanked them at the beginning of his speech.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)Jerry was incredible.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)I wonder why not one of the MSM outlets I saw covering this showed the rally from this angle? (Well, maybe I don't wonder.)
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)They didn't show it on CSPAN, and I wished they did.
Thanx for posting.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)although at the end of the live televise there was a disruption of reception & later promised to replay through the evening and include the minute or so of the disruption. you can probably watch it here:
http://www.c-span.org/video/?326214-1/senator-bernie-sanders-ivt-presidential-campaign-announcement
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)and nobody cares that he's a candidate.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Thanks for posting this is how I found out he will be in Minneapolis this weekend. I will be able to go on Sunday to see him. 1700 people are already signed up.
Minneapolis American Indian Center (Minneapolis, MN)
1530 East Franklin Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55404
The event is from 9:30 am to 12 pm on Sunday.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)She'll fight all the way to the end like she did in 2008, but at the end, if she's not the winner, she'll back whoever is. The same stands for teh other contestants in this.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)If she loses Iowa again I think there will be a sea shift in people's thinking. I believe large numbers of people who would have supported her will start thinking she is unelectable or yesterday's news.
If she loses both Iowa and New Hampshire, I go from believing that to being certain of it. In that event she will take a hammering on Super Tuesday, and walk away as she sees the writing on the wall.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)FairWinds
(1,717 posts)come up with a comparison photo of the Bernie event,
with the Rick Santorum one today?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)quaker bill
(8,224 posts)I recall being a face in a few crowds like that...
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That's a lot of people!
blackspade
(10,056 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Give it time, and the crowds will echo those of Obama.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Glad to see folks are coming out to see and hear Bernie.
malthaussen
(17,195 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)that I would be leaving VietNam all those years ago. Thats what Bernie Sanders did for me. Gives me Hope, lots of Hope
lame54
(35,290 posts)and that's after he had the nomination
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)SalviaBlue
(2,916 posts)they played live video of Santorum's rally announcing his jumping in. They never showed the crowd. The camera was always on Santorum. The "crowd" sounded like maybe 30 people.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And it's ONLY the beginning!