The piece of.... work who told Bernie he's not good enough on civil rights. What has she done?

[cali]

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Has she led protests? Bernie did- against segregated dorms at the University of Chicago. Has she worked as Bernie did on civil rights? He was an organizer for SNCC. Has little miss pantsonfire, marched on D.C. or any place else for civil rights? Bernie has. Repeatedly. Just what has little miss nastypants done for civil rights? But it's not just that that's questionable about her:


The other day another pile o'crap written by Nancy Letourneau, aka little miss smartypants was posted here. I'd be ashamed to post, in obvious admiration, such ugly stuff.

She has an agenda- and it's to slice and dice Sanders and economic justice/liberal populism. Why? I suspect it's in support of HRC, but that's not Hillary's fault and it's not particularly germane as to her ugly idiocy.

In the article the other day, little miss smartypants defends corporations and equates Wall Street and the corporate world with unions and schools. she hypocritically rails against demonizing when that is her forte. Here's the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6728629

Here's her bullshit blog:

http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-search-for-heroes-and-villains.htmlhttp:

Note: the op is not a reference to a user and I got the blogger's nom de plume wrong- it's iamasmartypants

[m-lekktor]

1. I read her stuff when it's linked here.

she's a fucking loon.

[cali]

2. a nasty piece of work with some really right wing views.

[Segami]

3. Her 'About Me' page..

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I'm a pragmatic progressive whose writing is influenced by a long journey out of conservative Christian fundamentalism, as well as my professional experience as a family therapist and nonprofit executive.

Through those experiences, I honed my skills as an original thinker who looks beneath the surface, gravitates towards the hard questions, and challenges conventional wisdom.

What began as an avocation eight years ago has become a vocation now that I have joined the staff at The Washington Monthly's Political Animal Blog.

[cali]

4. progressive? Not even close, little miss nastypants.

delusional? Yep.

[Bonobo]

5. Pragmatic Progressive my sweet petunias!

Strange bedfellows... or sleep with dogs get fleas?

[romanic]

33. The "pragmatic progressive" bit

reads like parody. :I

[Art_from_Ark]

47. "Pragmatic progressive" =

"I'm 'progressive' if that's where the wind is blowing".

[bullwinkle428]

49. Jeez, Louise - talk about a "wolf in sheep's clothing"...

...almost like a cry for help!

[Jackpine Radical]

68. Shouldn't that page be labelled

"ALL About Me?"

I am now writhing in shame at having made a personal attack.

[sabrina 1]

75. Lol, 'Pragmatic Progressive'! I learned long ago to beware of those who refer to themselves that way

She's an 'original thinker'?? Lol, sure, if slamming actual Progressives were 'original'.

I wonder who she works for??

[cherokeeprogressive]

6. Took all of six minutes for this to get sent to a jury. n/t

[cali]

8. what was the complaint?

and of course it was alerted. there are people here who alert on just about every op of mine.

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. Personal attack. 6-1 leave. Not enough Hillary supporters awake yet I guess LOL. n/t

[trumad]

12. hilbots?

[cherokeeprogressive]

19. Alert on it.

[trumad]

35. No...

I said Bernie-Bot and it was alerted on and hidden.

[cherokeeprogressive]

42. Notice I changed mine, and please accept this public apology to all Clinton supporters.

My alarm went off at 5. I wasn't fully awake.

[Ed Suspicious]

58. Derail worked. Nice job.

[KittyWampus]

21. Funny, you had a post hidden for saying Berniebots, didn't you?

[cali]

27. calling supprters of any candidate "bots" is stupid and it sucks.

[trumad]

38. I did.

weird

[cali]

16. personal attack on a journalist? lol.

little miss pantsonfire isn't terribly bright either.

[foo_bar]

29. "journalist" seems like an overstatement

Their LinkedIn skills include "Race Relations" and "Strategic Communication":

Strategic communication can also be used for political warfare. <...>

In the August 2008 paper, DoD Principles of Strategic Communication, Robert T. Hastings, Jr., acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, described strategic communication as "the synchronization of images, actions and words to achieve a desired effect."

Strategic Communication (SC) provides a conceptual umbrella that enables organizations to integrate their disparate messaging efforts. It allows them to create and distribute communications that, while different in style and purpose, have an inner coherence. This consistency can, in some instances, foster an echo chamber that reinforces the organizational message and brand. At minimum, it prevents contradictory, confusing messaging to different groups across all media platforms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_communication

Emphasis mine. Not sure I'd brag about that on LinkedIn, but I guess a job's a job.

[demmiblue]

60. Strategic communication... interesting. n/t

[m-lekktor]

32. i wasn't aware this was against DU rules

to "attack" somebody outside of DU. that is why I am wondering if Miss Smarty Pants is a DUer and the "alerter" knows that.

[cali]

39. could be, but there are a number of people here who just alert

on me constantly.

[awoke_in_2003]

73. I don't think a real democratic supporter

would alert on this. A shit stirrer? Sure.

[m-lekktor]

10. maybe she's a DUer!

I often wondered if she was.

[TBF]

11. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6727858

[m-lekktor]

14. yeah i posted on that thread.

are you implying the originator of that thread, Sheshe2, is Miss Smarty Pants? If so and it is true, that is news to many of us I am sure.

[Ms. Toad]

48. That's just a direct quote from the blog,

not an assertion that the DU member is the blogger. A lot of people quote things without any introduction and without using the excerpt code to indicate that they are quoting, not speaking personally.

[ms liberty]

20. Someone used to post with that user name...

Haven't seen that member in quite a while.

[m-lekktor]

36. aah. this is what i am wondering.

thus the alert on this thread, a personal attack against a member of DU.

[dreamnightwind]

74. I thought she was well known

littlemissmartypants

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=289553

Probably in my ignore list, since I haven't seen her posts in awhile.

[QC]

54. That would explin why that shitty, juvenile, right wing blog

gets spammed here on a daily basis.

[m-lekktor]

55. yup.

I wouldn't be surprised, she could be one of several!

[Buzz Clik]

7. Are you pacing yourself? It's going to be a long campaign.

[rurallib]

13. Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist.

so the piece you linked to has been removed

[pinboy3niner]

25. No, it has not been removed

Here's the correct link:
http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-search-for-heroes-and-villains.html

[rurallib]

63. thank you

[Sheldon Cooper]

15. I love watching people lose their shit over this election.

For 18 more months I'll be treated to these displays, and I'll be smiling the whole time.

[Omnith]

65. Yes it is very entertaining to watch.

[marym625]

17. Not giving the clicks to the bs.

The hypocrisy and lies, the idiocy and hyperbole, the lack of conscious and obvious spin into the abyss, is mind boggling.

Though I very much agree with you, cali, and am happy to kick and rec this OP, it's the last one I will acknowledge that acknowledges the insanity and disgusting attempt to degrade good people. Both candidate and supporters

Much of the championing of shameful attacks on Bernie Sanders and his supporters, especially supporters in the DU Bernie Sanders group, is due to a comment by Skinner in the ATA group. In it he states he had no idea Democrats hate Democrats so much. I took it to mean both ends of the spectrum of the Democratic party. Sadly, it has been used for fodder to increase the rhetoric and as a rallying cry to increase the hate.

I won't play the game.

[KittyWampus]

18. So Cali! How many African Americans does Bernie have on his campaign or Senatorial staff?

If he does, he couldn't ask them to attend his rally the other day? For no other reason than the optics?

I've seen some Sanders supporters mention Governor Bill Clinton who came from a very white state.

But you know what?

About a QUARTER of Clinton's gubernatorial staff was comprised of people of color. This in a state about 15% African American.

Governor Bill Clinton made an effort.

Yet another example of Sanders and his campaign being INSULAR and not ready for prime time.

You better hope the press ignores him a while longer until he gets his sh*t together.

[Bonobo]

22. Staging things is not Sander's way. It does however fit the modus operandi of someone else. nt

[KittyWampus]

41. STAGING? If he had any people of color he wouldn't have to "stage". Furthermore, optics

is a part of politics.

Don't be dishonest and say it isn't.

It would make you look silly.

[cali]

24. ask his campaign, kitty.

Bill Clinton? the guy who used racist dog whistles against President Obama? Bill Clinton who ended welfare as we know it, disproportionately disadvantaging poor kids of color?

That Bill Clinton?

[KittyWampus]

43. Bill Clinton who had about a quarter of his staff as African Americans even though

they were a small minority in Arkansas at the time.

And he also appointed quite a few African Americans to leadership positions for the first time in that state's history.

THAT Bill Clinton, Cali.

[cali]

44. way to ignore the points I brought up, kitty

I think I need to write an op about the ugly racist turn HRC's campaign took in 2008.

[misterhighwasted]

64. And that Op would be any different than your usual OP's? HA

Rage on cali!!

[aspirant]

66. Good idea

I think a reminder OP is necessary

[LuvNewcastle]

28. I thought Hillary wasn't Bill and we weren't

supposed to compare the two. So the rules are different now, or are they being made up as you go along?

[NCTraveler]

37. Hillary was not mentioned once in the post you replied to.

Not one single time. The comparison was between Bill and Sanders. Hillary was left out and no Bill/Hillary comparison was made in any way at all.

[LuvNewcastle]

46. So the poster chose to pick Bill

out of the blue, huh? What a coincidence! It just so happens that he's married to Bernie' s opponent.

[NCTraveler]

51. The poster picked Bill.....

because he is one of the most popular politicians in our lifetime. Also probably because the name Clinton is on the tips of everyone's tongue. Regardless of their reasoning, in not one way was Hillary compared with anything as you claimed.

[LuvNewcastle]

56. The name Clinton isn't on the tip of my tongue.

I know people who go weeks and weeks without mentioning them. I mention them sometimes, but I stay within the rules. I just want to make sure I know what the rules are.

[HERVEPA]

52. Do you really believe the bullshit you post about Bernie?

[sabrina 1]

76. Yes, we know the Clintons were good at staging things. Bernie is the real thing. He doesn't have to

prove himself, his record does that. And yes, there were African Americans at the rally in VT. But it's not his style to try to get the cameras to focus on them. We are all sick to death of the staging, the scripting, the 'show' that is put on during campaign seasons.

Bernie walked the walk on Civil Rights when it wasn't so 'cool' to do so.

He supported Gay marriage while The Clinton Administration was denying their rights.

He never had to evolve on the rights of any group that was denied rights in this country. He was way, way ahead of almost every politician currently in this government right now.

You are not going to win any points by trying to smear Sanders on issues, he has the best record of anyone currently in this race or thinking about it, going all the back to his early years.

You would do better to talk about YOUR candidate's record.

Or maybe that is too difficult for you to do?

Just asking because that is usually why people do this kind of thing, try to drum up stuff that has no basis in fact.

You are going to be very surprised as this campaign goes forward.

So rather than be embarrassed later on, maybe it's best not to make stuff up right now.

He expects that I'm sure, and is in no rush to save anyone any embarrassment. Nor should he be.

Just try promoting your candidate, rather than attacking other candidates, it generally works better in the end.

[uponit7771]

79. +1

[LuvNewcastle]

23. I read that weird little essay of hers

from the DU link. It made me wonder who was supposed to be the idiot child that the German woman had in her dream. Creepy as hell.

[1StrongBlackMan]

26. I read her stuff when it appears on DU ...

I keep saying I will bookmark the blog because she typically is spot on when she writes on race/racism.

[cali]

31. so you think she's spot on regarding a man who has

been deeply involved in fighting racism for over 50 years?

[giftedgirl77]

57. Her blog is usually dead on when it comes to issues of racism

& social justice. Not to mention she hit the nail on the head when she said:

It is due to all of the above that I have to say that when Sen. Bernie Sanders kicks off his presidential campaign with a suggestion that he is launching a "political revolution to transform our country," and yet makes zero mention of any of the issues that burden people of color in this country, my response is simply..."Not good enough, Bernie." 

You can turn it into a hit piece all you want & try & talk about all the good Bernie Sanders has done for POC during the civil rights marches but he sure as shit seems to have put some blinders on now.

It's kind of like DU he seems to have a one track mind about economic justice while forgetting social justice is what is killing us.

[DanTex]

30. LOL, the hypocrisy. And the people who criticize the Clinton Foundation? What have they done?

Have they raised billions of dollars for things like healthcare, child poverty, climate change?

But, god forbid, someone points out anything negative about St Bernie...

[cali]

34. you clearly don't know what hypocrisy means, dan

and what she pointed out was false.

Pointing out that big money and politics is problematic and that the Clinton Foundation is part of that, is not false.

[DanTex]

45. Yes, I do. Here, I'll explain.

People who criticize Bernie for launching his campaign in a crowd of white people, and not mentioning race, you call them a "piece of ... work" and asked to demonstrate that they did as much as Bernie for civil rights.

But then you have no problem criticizing the Clinton foundation without first showing how much money you've raised for child poverty.

Not sure how this could be any clearer, really.

[bullwinkle428]

53. JESUS CHRIST!! When Barack Obama was campaigning for President in 2008,

he spoke in front of OCEANS of white people here in Iowa! I KNOW. I LIVE here and witnessed it. This is just a function of the demographics of a region. Bernie doesn't have any control over the ehtnic breakdown of the population within the state he represents in the U.S. Senate.

[NCTraveler]

40. Exactly

And what have all these right wing loons done who criticize the Clinton Foundation. Not a damn thing except complain and judge others. It's great that we have Sanders and Hillary who fight for so much good in this world.

[JoePhilly]

50. Its HOT in the kitchen, isn't it.

[asjr]

59. I think the OP has managed to do what he or she intended--

get every one on DU to blast each other regarding Sanders and Clinton. Such a waste of time!

[cali]

62. I didn't start this ugly shit. That would be another op

by someone who thought it appropriate to post a terribly cruel and racist picture in a thread claiming that Sanders isn't good enough on issues of racism and issues important to African Americans.

[JoePhilly]

67. Agree completely ...

... here's how I see it.

There are lots of folks who would happily vote for Hillary against any GOP candidate in 2016. Lots and Lots of them.

This OP author, and a few others, regularly malign Hillary and those who would happily support her.

Obama beat Hillary in 2008 by becoming just as strong a candidate for the GENERAL election as Hillary would have been. It was only then, when people believed that he would also beat any GOP candidate, that people examined his positions relative to hers. And he eeked out a primary win.

Now we have Bernie supporters like the OP. Hyper-critical and over the top in their attacks on Obama (and his supporters) for the last 6 years, hyper-critical and over the top attacks on Hillary (and his supporters) now, and yet hyper-offended if Bernie is questions or **GASP** some one (a Hillary supporter) throws the same tactics back in their face.

Having read this person's OPs over the years ... its clear there is little to no political acumen at work here. At least not that will work in Sanders' favor.

I mean, in what world would one think they can endlessly attack a candidate and their supporters, AND then also expect them to switch sides and JOIN them?

Sooner or later, those folks are not only not going to switch sides, they are going to fight back. And the OP acts surprised and even offended by what was a predictable response.

And at times I think for some of DU's loudest and most active OP authors, are really only interested in the fight.

[seabeyond]

61. guess what cali. some of us saw from day one this was gonna happen. it was obvious and clear.

when i brought it up, cause it is so clear and obvious, and i am a sander supporter and i want him to have a better campaign, you and many others jump on my ass.

the point? you buried your head in hte sand, avoiding a very real issue with sander campaign he coud have and can in the future shore up

gonna keep ignoring the issue? or do sanders people get their ass in gear to be inclusive, earning those black, gay and women votes.

no whining if sanders campaign is not willing to recognize and address.

politics

you know

fuckin politics.

that... is being on sanders side

[gordianot]

69. Baiting still works hook line and sinker, or not. This is going to be a long year 2016 even longer.

I like what Bernie Sanders has proposed but my imperative is the election of a Democratic President. Benghazi, email records, character assassination, and who you met 30 years ago will not persuade me. In 2008 I did engage in flaming other Democrats but not this time I have grown up since I was a lad at 57 years old. Far far too much is at stake today.

[one_voice]

70. It's the consensus of the hosts

that this doesn't meet SOP for GD. Locking.

[one_voice]

71. Unlocking...

after further review it's the consensus that this thread was locked in error. Apologies.

Kick

[Warren Stupidity]

80. How in the world would a topical political discussion not fit in gd?

What were the hosts thinking?

[bananas]

72. k&r now that it's unlocked. nt

[Kalidurga]

77. I read it 3 times and all I got was...

This is what I am reading today and it's some ugly stuff so I am going to tie it to Bernie Sanders and imply he doesn't care about race issues cuz Vermont.

[PowerToThePeople]

78. I am glad this got unlocked

Did not seem right to me.

Smartypants appears like a right wing pos to me, trying to hide under the guise of a progressive. Really sick shit from her.