I believe I need to make a quick clarification about my views, please.

[Fire Walk With Me]

When I discuss the #Occupy General Assembly (eventually and hopefully) replacing the government, I am talking evolution and the will of the people as they regain and utilize their voice. I love America and I am non-violent. What I don't love and wish to see changed, is this fascism:

"We’re seeing Washington and Wall Street working so closely together that you really can’t tell the difference between them...The government officials we are trusting and paying to look out for Americans are using those positions to get really nice, high-paying jobs in private-sector places, including Wall Street, that are effectively being used as bribes." - Leah Goodman, The Asylum

www.zerohedge.com/contributed/twas-friday-christmas (Thank you to DUer elehhhhna for this.)

I am not saying we need to be violent. I am not saying we need to storm the government. I AM saying we need to continue to STAND UP AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT AND BE HIGHLY VOCAL ABOUT IT WHEN THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN PURCHASED and we have descended into true fascism. Those who have bought the government are attempting to use its lawmaking branch to stifle all Constitutional rights, so THEY may continue to be able to control and prosper. They have overthrown our government, the government of the people, for the people, by the people. They are treasonous. We are demanding an end to this. They will resist. We will resist with even more strength. Or we will have fascism, with its corresponding iron fist into the faces of the average American (see the bills these very people are attempting to pass to create laws protecting and empowering themselves, such as SOPA, the NDAA, etc.). Under these laws, THEY will be able to call anyone who resists their fascism, a terrorist, THEY will control what we can see and hear...and eventually, what we can do.

Anonymous: Night Raid Equipment-Maker Lobbied for NDAA, Singles Out Sen. Rob Portman.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/19/1046972/-Anonymous-Uncovers-Night-Raid-Equipment-Maker-Donations-From-NDAA-Supporter-to-Sen-Rob-Portman

#Occupy. Speak up and call them on their usurpation. Make them slink back under their rock. If you are voting or working to elect "authorities", make CERTAIN they aren't just another Scott Walker in sheep's clothing. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance! Money out of politics, return politics to the people!

[Jackpine Radical]

1. I would like to take exception to everything you say here.

Unfortunately, I can't do that because I'm in entire agreement with you.

[randome]

2. If our current government was 'true fascism' as you said...

...then violent confrontation is mandated. But it is not and you know this.

Words matter.

[socialist_n_TN]

3. Once again, it doesn't have to be full blown fascism

for it to be trending, QUICKLY, in that direction. It's like a runaway train that's picking up steam with every capitalist and governmental action that's taken.

Unfortunately, I agree that when it becomes fascism, violent confrontation will be mandated. With the right tactics and strategy we can POSSIBLY make it as nonviolent as possible. That will depend on the fascists.

[demosincebirth]

9. he's never lived in a facsist state.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. I'd recommend a few books by actual political sciencitists of where we are

But I fear in this case it will be in vain.

You are correct, it is NOT 1930s fascism... it is a new form of totalitarianism.

[Downwinder]

4. An Aaron Burr mask might be more appropriate

than the Guy Fawkes mask.

[Fire Walk With Me]

11. Hmph.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr_conspiracy

I'm talking about evolution and the will of the people, who do NOT want this creeping fascism.

[Downwinder]

12. Vidal had a different take.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr_%28novel%29

[Fire Walk With Me]

16. Oh, now that's interesting!

Intriguing...thank you!

[barbtries]

5. for what it's worth,

i haven't perceived you to be advocating violence. peace.
you do so much don't stop.

[2pooped2pop]

6. 100% agree with this. n/t

[Magoo48]

7. Agreed....IMO we evolve or we become extinct.

[Citizen Worker]

8. Fascism doesn't have to be violent to be fascism. Sheldon Wollin calls it "inverted totalitarianism"

another way of saying corporate rule.

[sarcasmo]

15. Whchi is what we now live in, just my opinion of course.

[T S Justly]

10. K&R (nt)

[TheKentuckian]

13. There are many who will not acknowledge problems, much less seek to solve them

until by definition, it is too late.

They would insist they have democracy and the people rule as long as they have a "choice" of corporate sanctioned options even if the "choice"was essentially Mussolini vs Hitler. Hell, by the logic of diminishing returns as long as there is a potentially worse than Hitler, Adolf would be an acceptable choice as the "lesser" of trip evils thinking.

The Jews going to the ovens is tolerable if the other viable option is wanting to eliminate hispanics as well, lesser evilisim demands it, one MUST select the most proximate VIABLE option, no matter how far off base it is.

[tabasco]

14. Who are you?

And why should I care about your views?

[Fire Walk With Me]

17. You shouldn't. I'm just clarifying because I have recently been dangerously misinterpreted.

I'm just one of the 99% or so

Edit: Some have concluded that I am violent or an anarchist or something. I do not identify as an anarchist, and I am for non-violence (as it shames the violent, per the last eight or so stanzas of Shelley's "Mask of Anarchy&quot .

So I looked up "anarchy" at wikipedia.org and found this:

"Outside of the US, and by most individuals that self-identify as anarchists, it implies a system of governance, mostly theoretical at a nation state level although there are a few successful historical examples[5], that goes to lengths to avoid the use of coercion, violence, force and authority, while still producing a productive and desirable society.[6]"

[greytdemocrat]

18. Merry Christmas you crazy bastard!!!

And may your New Year be just as fun filled as 2011.

[Quartermass]

20. Unfortunately they will not listen to reason and will not change.

They will only change if hundreds of millions of people protest and ransack their offices, not a thousand or two here and there.

Until then they will only make themselves out to be victims.

The only thing these people love is money.

[tavalon]

21. What he said

Bloody revolution almost always leads to a dictatorship worse than what was deposed.

Yes, it is time to evolve, but it must be non-violently.