Hillary Clinton’s camp is fearful of Bernie Sanders

[morningfog]

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Bernie Sanders has got Hillary Clinton insiders concerned.

Politico writes it is Vermont Sen. Sanders, not former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, who Democratic strategists and Clinton insiders expect will pose a bigger threat to the former secretary of state as she seeks her party’s presidential nomination. Insiders familiar with the Clinton campaign’s thinking described it as “frightened” of Sanders, Politico wrote — not that he would win the nomination, but that he could damage her with the activist base by challenging her on core progressive positions in debates and make her look like a centrist or corporatist. Sanders has declared his candidacy; O’Malley is expected to later this week.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hillary-clintons-camp-is-fearful-of-bernie-sanders-2015-05-28

[trumad]

1. Yawn

[upaloopa]

2. Let's see how that works for you in 2016.

I'd be more afraid of running out of $10 contributions before the end of the primary season if I were you.

[morningfog]

3. I'm not worried at all.

I have no connection to anyone running.

[arcane1]

4. We know Hillary won't run out of money.

I'm not sure we should celebrate that fact

[upaloopa]

6. I guess you want some repub to pick the next

4 Supreme Court Justices.
It cost money to play in 2016. We didn't make the rules but it would be foolish to handicap our chances.

[arcane1]

7. LOL

The Supreme Court Extortion, so soon?

[upaloopa]

8. Smilies don't substitute for substance

Very weak in deed!

[arcane1]

9. And the candidate with the most money isn't guaranteed to win

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(editing since Romney wasn't the big spender, but still remaining faithful that money won't be the victor)

[Sheepshank]

14. You are right, in the end Obama got more campaign money and spent more money than Romney

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/

I've seen that talking point present on DU a lot lately. It's best to check out regurgitated talking points.

Edited to make my response seem more in line with the post (after editing) I was replying to. it all makes more sense now

[arcane1]

20. The NYT link is different

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

It shows Obama spending $985 with Romney spending $992.

[Sheepshank]

22. Your link is as of Sept 2012. Obama got more campagn money, but had spent a little less

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/campaign-finance/
\Number by December 2012 show that Obasma not only got more campaing donations than Romney, but also spent more.

I apologize for my earlier snark, it was not necessary.

In the end, Romney didn't have and spend more money than Obama, so that talking point is not accurate.

[arcane1]

25. You are correct! And inspired me to dig deeper, too.

[frylock]

34. If Sanders beats Clinton, he wins it all

[840high]

37. That stale line again. I have

more concerns than the Supremes.

[Sheepshank]

45. it's not stale, it a very real issue, one that even Michele Obama addressed ....

...in her recently taped commencment speech.

It is VERY VERY important.

[roguevalley]

64. yes, nothing like the wife of NAFRA choosing the (corporate licking)

new members of the supreme court after she becomes Pre$ident of the United States of TPP.

[Sheepshank]

91. And you'd rather have another Alito, Scalia or Thomas

and enhacne the damage that's already be done to civil rights, and the democratic process?

alrighty then.

[roguevalley]

93. and you assume that a dem like that would choose someone who isn't terrible?

[Sheepshank]

94. Nope didn't say that, sweetie. But I absolutely know what anyone in the current clown car would do

I'm 95% confident in the liberal social side of HRC's committments. SCOTUS need only be in that camp. I have seen no evidence that POTUS nominates SCOTUS based on their economic leanings...more on social leanings.

[orpupilofnature57]

81. Play ? what Megalomaniac Roulette ? Ya and of course " YOU GUESS WE WANT " is

Ted Knight in ' Caddy Shack ' Talk . Honest, out of the two, who looks more like a Republican ?

[misterhighwasted]

27. + 10000 This ^

"But if you can't give, that's ok too"..
Never mind.

[frylock]

33. that'$ becau$e all you people think about i$ money

[Warren DeMontague]

41. that's funny, I thought Sanders was the canditate of the elites out to oppress the "subaltern"

Odd, then, that he's not the one raking in fat donations from billionaires.

[backwoodsbob]

92. you may be right

I guess having banksters bankrolling you to the tune of a billion dollars is something we celebrate now

[NYC Liberal]

5. Right-wing crap from Politico, with no sources or quotes except a single one from

an advisor to Bill Clinton...20 years ago.

[AtomicKitten]

10. If the Clinton campaign's nasty (and pathetic) opposition research so far is any indication,

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... (e.g. suggesting Bernie is civil rights deficient and wrote porn 40+ years ago) ... the primary season should be interesting. She did the same thing with then Candidate Obama with an initial assault via surrogates on his teenage drug use, birth place, religion, etc., and we all know how nicely that strategy worked out for her.

[KittyWampus]

15. I haven't seen any "opposition research" yet. Got a link.

[Ed Suspicious]

51. This is what they're talking about, I think.

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8682503/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy

[AtomicKitten]

67. yep

This was ripped from a Mother Jones article, link below, and repackaged in a pretty despicable way.

[Sheepshank]

23. Clinton has produced nasty and pathetic infor on Sanders? Do tell!!

I must have missed all of them.

[Historic NY]

63. Sure looks like its Mother Jones....that produced it.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/young-bernie-sanders-liberty-union-vermont

[AtomicKitten]

65. I was referring to the link posted above you from "vox"

That's what was lifted from Mother Jones' piece by a slime peddler.

Thanks for posting the source material of this bit of nastiness. Beat me to it.

[Mojorabbit]

85. +1000 nt

[JI7]

11. Politico ?

[bvar22]

12. I don't see HOW Hillary could face Bernie...

...with all that innocent blood on her hands.

[Ford_Prefect]

13. Did we just hear more whistling in the dark?

[Enrique]

16. "make her look like a centrist or corporatist"

I think it's pretty obvious that is exactly what she is, but if she's not, then Bernie is giving her a great opportunity to prove it.

[peacebird]

31. Truth!

[HooptieWagon]

32. +1

Maybe it's Hillary's record that makes her look like a corporatist.

[840high]

38. Bingo!

[Vincardog]

54. Expose her as a corporatist hiding behind " centrist " excuses.

[WillyT]

74. Yep... There It Is...

[Sheepshank]

17. And this opinion piece is honest, accurate and truthful?

The author isn't trying to spin the same type of rhetoric that right leaning pollsters try all the way to the lead up of an election by spinning false tales in the hopes of pressing an agenda? It sure stinks like one.

[Man from Pickens]

19. authenticity*

*may in rare cases exhibit the properties of garlic and holy water

[DFW]

21. Little Miss Muffet was scared of spiders, too

I read it in Politico, so it has to be true, right?

[Laser102]

24. Hillary is not afraid of anything. She has no need to be.

[misterhighwasted]

26. poor bernie

Omg it's getting desperate.
Here's a click for you if it ups your post count.

Pathetic much?

[morningfog]

86. Click for who? What the fuck are you trying to say?

[hrmjustin]

28. I don't take politico seriously but i do tale Sanders seriously.

[okasha]

57. And it's information from "insiders."

You know, the same folks who tell Midnight Globe about Camilla's plots to poison Kate, or Prince Harry's secret life as a bouncer at a lesbian bar in SoHo.

[MoonRiver]

29. OMG, yes! I mean she's ONLY 40 points ahead of him!

I'm sure she's in total panic mode!

[paleotn]

59. When's the primaries?....

...oh, that's right, months and months and months and months away. Enjoy Goldman Girl's lead. It won't last long.

[MoonRiver]

61. Yes, Bernie is going to keep getting those $10 donations for months and months

and everything will be AOK for him.

[paleotn]

70. I guess one has to be a wall street sell out to have a chance.....

...a wholly owned subsidiary of Goldman Saks and Dimon's little pet. Sanders may be many things, but a hollow money grubber he isn't. I'll take that over the faux progressive, Goldman Girl any day and sleep with a clear conscience. Can you?

The primary season will certainly show us who's really progressive and who's faux progressive when it's convenient and has no qualms whatsoever screwing the populace when it's not. It should be fun to watch Sanders make them squirm.

[workinclasszero]

75. Hey if you think it's panic time now....

Wait till Bernie hits....gasp...13 % approval! That will have Hillary shaking in her boots by golly!

[heaven05]

30. I see right now

with what I have read in OP's today from different forums, this primary season is going to get ugly here, and I expect there will be a lot of 'collateral damage'. To friends, allies and adversaries. This is going to be interesting. I just hope we field the best candidate we can to fight off the RW onslaught and win.

[fredamae]

35. Stop taking the baiit n/t

[Politicub]

36. I can assure you that no one in the Hillary Clinton "camp" is fearful of any candidate

of any party.

The antidote to fear is planning and strategy, and Hillary's campaign is staffed with some of the best political strategists. I'm sure they have already been anticipating attacks from both the left and the right. She is in it for the long haul.

It is not Bernie Sanders who is attacking Hillary. In fact, Sanders and Clinton agree with one another 90 percent of the time. It's a vocal group of self-righteous keyboard jockeys who are hell bent on distortion and obfuscating the truth about both of these fine candidates.

[840high]

39. I can assure you they are worried.

[MoonRiver]

40. "You" assure us. Based on what?

[840high]

43. On the same thing Politicub assured you.

[MoonRiver]

52. Obviously nothing. So thanks for nothing.

[seabeyond]

46. how can you assure people of that? just by making the statement? lol

[840high]

47. You didn't question Politicub right above my post. Why

question me?

[seabeyond]

48. she has a 40% lead. makes more sense. but, i get your point. nt

[840high]

62. '08 i loved her. Went around depressed for

days when she lost. She was a shoo-in then, too.

[seabeyond]

78. i was for obama. i think sanders has a chance. nt

[Bobbie Jo]

95. That poster offered an explanation

you, not so much...

So, what are your thoughts?

[840high]

96. IMO - she has a lot of

baggage. I like Bernie very much at this point.

[Warren DeMontague]

44. You mean bob shrum level geniuses like the people who told Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to

Campaign against medical marijuana?

Oh yeah. That beltway conventional wisdom, always a winner. Guaranteed to win the election that happened 10 years ago.

[Politicub]

55. Beltway conventional wisdom

Is that shorthand for you have nothing of substance to add?

I'm not sure what Wasserman-Shultz has to do with anything. But I'll play along. Here goes...

You mean Sanders advisor tad devine level geniuses like the people who told John Kerry to not campaign so aggressively as to not offend the tender sensibilities of the swing voters?

Oh yeah. That beltway conventional wisdom, always a winner.

[Warren DeMontague]

79. I think 2004 has a lot of lessons, for everyone.

The principal one being, that nominating the candidate who is supposedly going to be the "strongest" for the general election, doesn't always work out so well.

[Number23]

73. + a million.

It is not Bernie Sanders who is attacking Hillary. In fact, Sanders and Clinton agree with one another 90 percent of the time. It's a vocal group of self-righteous keyboard jockeys who are hell bent on distortion and obfuscating the truth about both of these fine candidates.

[orpupilofnature57]

83. I would agree it's more Us his supporters than Bernie, he has ethics .

[Warren DeMontague]

42. They've been assured that she's double-plus inevitable, this time around.

And there will be hell to pay if she isnt.

[LiberalLovinLug]

49. "by challenging her on core progressive positions in debates..... "

"....and make her look like a centrist or corporatist"

core progressive positions like..
supporting 99% of the population over 1%?
being skeptical on secret trade deals written by the corporate class?
not being a reactionary war hawk and taking millions in contributions from the MIC?

Hey....here's a suggestion Hillary. Maybe instead of cowering in the corner, staying mute and hoping for some faux pas from Bernie that the corporate press can overblow (like Dean's scream) or even start your own rumour mill against him, maybe rethink your positions and who your pals are before all of that.

On the other hand, I'm sure her handlers see the silver lining. The glass could be half full. Bernie will make her look like an old establishment Republican comparatively in the debates. So she'll most likely win over more center/right independent voters. Its a game, if she can win more of those conservative small r republicans than she loses with "hard core progressives", I'm sure she will welcome him to the race.

Bernie can counter this by attracting more new younger voters, much like Obama did for his first term win. And also energize and rally the forgotten liberal population tired of the excesses of Wall Street and war.

[L0oniX]

50. Message: Money from those that gave us the recession is good if it gets a win.

With that win we can be sure that a SCJ will be selected that will remove that money from helping win elections. Got it.

[still_one]

53. Of course politico would say that, politico made up of ex Reaganites who started that blog, and

sometimes subtly, and sometimes not so subtly Try to snipe at Democrats every chance they get

and if they can spew division among Democrats they couldn't be happier

[CTBlueboy]

56. Beware The Ides of 08'

I have yet to hear from HRC supporters online or in public explaining to me why she didn't win the nomination in 08 ,yet this time its different?

why did voters choose B.O over HRC in the primaries ? my personal reasoning on voting for B.O. was simple, The Iraq Invasion

So yes polls show HRC lead over her competition,but the HRC camp should fear Sen. Sanders because God knows the they don't want a repeat of 08

[DCBob]

58. "not that he would win the nomination"

Just that he could screw up what should be an easy road to the WH. I am also fear that his hard core supporters will try to convince his to run third party.

[hifiguy]

60. Make her "look like a centrist or corporatist"?

Hell's bells, she's done that all by herself. Bernie doesn't have much to do regarding that.

[mountain grammy]

66. "frightened" of Bernie Sanders? Politico is, as usual, full of shit.

[SoapBox]

68. It's going to be very, very interesting when he presses her with everything

that was in his speech.

Of course there was ABC news last night, all ha-ha and stuff, about her coloring her hair.

Ya...that's some critical substance. Not.

[MrModerate]

69. Here's the deal.

The Republican field is full of loons, no-hopers, and Rand Paul, who is sui generis in American politics (but not necessarily in a good way).

The (growing) Democratic field is full of serious people with thoughtful approaches to the country's challenges.

I welcome the debate, and I think it will make for a better candidate, whoever it ends up being.

I'm also OK with the Clinton camp being a little uneasy, because being on your toes is a definite plus in political campaigns.

[ladjf]

71. Personally I doubt that the Clinton camp is worried about Sanders. nt

[OilemFirchen]

72. "Insiders familiar with the Clinton campaign’s thinking"

Now there's an unimpeachable source.

[NanceGreggs]

76. News Flash:

Hillary is not afraid of Bernie.

Bernie is not afraid of Hillary.

And no (D) candidate who winds up running will be afraid of either one of them, or of any other (D) candidate.

This kind of crapola is written and promoted by people who have absolutely nothing of consequence to say. Therefore, their only recourse is to gin-up nothing and pretend it's something.

"Insiders familiar with the Clinton campaign’s thinking ..." That kind of "reportage" is right up there with "some people are saying".

And then there's the caption under Bernie's photo: "Striking fear in the Clinton camp’s heart: Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont."

Reminds me of all the over-the-top bullshit headlines that pop up on FaceBook et al: "Learn why plastic surgeons HATE this Iowa housewife!" "Find out why grocery store chains are TERRIFIED of this Wisconsin farmer!" "Read about how the frozen food industry is PETRIFIED by this Maine fisherman!"

The only people who are afraid of anyone on the (D) side are the Clown Car Clan - and everyone knows it, and everyone knows why.

If you are a Bernie supporter, an HRC supporter - or plan to support another (D) who enters the race, SUPPORT your candidate by pointing out their positions on the important issues, by volunteering for their campaigns, by donating whatever funds you can afford.

Buying into the propaganda being spewed by so-called "journalists" serves only one purpose - to lend relevance to people who have none.

[orpupilofnature57]

84. +1000

Shut me up .

[orpupilofnature57]

77. Hillary Supporters are scientologists about it .

[LuvLoogie]

80. Hey! Politico also has a lengthy article regarding Hillary's hair

And one about Carly "I'm Really Good at Something" Fiorina.

Here's the actual Politico headline referenced in the OP:

Socialist Sanders threatens Clinton more than made-for-TV O'Malley

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/hillary-clinton-2016-fearful-bernie-sanders-118346.html#ixzz3bTxDJRji

Sensational! Isn't it?

[orpupilofnature57]

82. It could be historic in a sensational way, We the people would win .

[Jester Messiah]

87. "make her look like a centrist or corporatist"

Hate to break it to ya hon, but you don't need Bernie's help with that.

[840high]

89. ....x10

[treestar]

88. Not.

[Scuba]

90. Bernie isn't going to make Hillary "look like a centrist or corporatist."

Hillary took care of that all on her own.