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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHey... Mr. Sanders made the front page of NY Times today.
And No... he didn't murder his wife.
Be willing to put up w. a little age-snark ( It's penned by folks who probably think "Ellsberg" is a new item on the McDonald's Value Menu.)
On the whole it's pretty fair and therefore good for the Senator. Apologies if someone posted it already. ( So read it *again* and stop looking at me like that.)
Enjoy:
>>>EPPING, N.H. Fit and quick-witted at age 73, Senator Bernie Sanders was still going strong after speaking for an hour in 90-degree heat on Wednesday when he fielded a question from a man who could have been an older brother.
Would you raise the top marginal tax rate to over 90 percent, as it was in the 1950s, when the middle class and the economy were doing so well? asked Milt Lauenstein, 89, who had the same white hair and hunched posture as Mr. Sanders.
You mean under the communist Dwight D. Eisenhower? Mr. Sanders quipped about the former president, who, of course, was a Republican, but one who did not oppose high taxes as fiercely as party leaders do now.
It is not every day in 2015 that an Ike joke gets a laugh, but Mr. Sanders landed the line perfectly at least for the roughly 50 older people in the crowd of 200 who came out to meet the candidate in a backyard here. It was the latest Sanders event to draw a sizable number of registered voters who share not only Mr. Sanderss cultural reference points but also his age group.
What Bernie Sanders Would Need to Do to Win
Mr. Sanders, an independent from Vermont, is running an insurgents campaign for the Democratic nomination for president, but to spend time with him on the trail is almost to travel back in time: He sprinkles his remarks with 50 years ago or 40 years ago as he reminds his audiences of the progress in the United States on race relations or gay rights.
At one point during his remarks in Epping, Mr. Sanders drew a yes from Nina Capra Jordan when he commented that back in the first half of the 20th century, the University of California campuses, City College of New York and other elite institutions charged little or no tuition. (Mr. Sanders wants to eliminate tuition at public universities nationwide and pay for it largely with revenue from taxes on Wall Street stock trades.)
the whole thing:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)His message resonates with people of all ages who are paying attention! And the thing about citing events from 40 years ago is that we were on a much better track then! At this moment, to get back to what we had, we have to refight battles we had previously won.
So yes, it is good that he is becoming more visible, but he is still being marginalized, just in a somewhat different way.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Pretty sad when you think about it, they want to bury the past.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That is their huge advantage.
madokie
(51,076 posts)don't want us to die. I mean those of us who aren't letting them fleece us anymore or the disadvantaged by what ever reason. I wonder if they want to see a big die off as they're seeing the world as theirs and we're over populating it without their permission. Conflicted no doubt, on the one hand they don't want us using birth control and on the other hand not willing to help the unwanted babies. Ought to be a season on the rich bastards, its them who are causing the strife throughout the world today. They use whatever wedge issue they can to reach this goal too, At the base of most of it is the Bible and the Koran. Old text that should be worth nothing more that the novelty of the reality of what it is, old text written by who ever for whatever reason. Get the masses to all knell down and believe something and they are easy to manipulate.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)From what she tells me, Bernie has quite a following of young folks on social media.
Articles like this are designed to manipulate us into believing that only old people can understand Bernie and will vote for him, therefore he can't possibly gain widespread support and win. They portray him as an affable old eccentric, completely harmless. Like a novelty.
It's all bullshit.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)First time for this, AFAIK. ( Except when the header was about Clinton.)
Exposure is the name of the game right now.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I agree that exposure is the name of the game with the American people. Have to keepin mind that most aren't as involved in politics are we are.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Same thing this morning. She said Bernie is a big hit on social media.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I really think the usual suspects are underestimating Sanders, and his ability to connect with younger people.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Take any definition of "the other side" as you please, of course.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)right from the beginning of his life was aware of what was important in this world.
Bernie IS going to win this race.
He is already making waves.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)world know that Bernie is a stooped over old guy they don't need to take seriously. (I haven't seen any indication that he's "hunched" at all.)
The man could have been attending the same elementary school at the same time as Hillary Clinton given that they are a mere 6 years apart. The way the media is portraying it, he could be her father.
William769
(55,144 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)requiring the 'his or her' construction).
Pedantic excursion complete. Now back to regular programming.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)An indefinite singular which is perfectly acceptable. Though there are people who argue about it to this day.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/they
*fan of singular they*
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)that your 'That's" lacks an antecedent A minor faux pas as such things go.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Sean Combs, for example.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)johnnyreb
(915 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)The point here is :NYT is more of a NATIONAL newspaper than it is a local. The dissatisfaction w. "politics as usual" is NOT localized to the 5 boroughs of NYC.
Even if "politics as usual" physically resides in its northern suburbs.
A snippet:
I think Bernie Sanders holds high appeal amongst not only the older, but also amongst the younger and middle-aged, Democratic voters. Both I (not out of my 50's yet), and my son (not out of his 20's yet) found ourselves independently considering contributing to his campaign. The man is a plain speaker, and not beholden to the powerful banks and companies that have such a stranglehold on the politics in our country. We do need a truly populist President from time-to-time - after the great disappointment of Barack Obama, 2016 may be that time.
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Andrea New Jersey Yesterday
I am all for Sanders - and I opposed Communism at a great personal price in Cuba in the early 1970's. None of us would have ever moved a finger to create the cut-throat Capitalism that we see today: The uber wealthy are taking the rest of the nation to the cleaners.
This country needs Sanders or someone like him. A degree of social justice - genuine; not just lip service - is indispensable for economic growth and political stability. It's not just a moral thing; it's common sense too.
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WildWeasel California Yesterday
I agree with Bernie on pretty much most of his platform. On taxes, it is not so much about raising all taxes. It is about stopping the flattening of the tax curve. It is no longer progressive. When top tax rates were upwards of 70% and 80% and America boomed and all Americans were doing better than they are now, and our infrastructure was being expanded and maintained, EVERYONE paid the same tax on the first increment of income. Say 20% on the first $20K. But more income meant you'd pay a higher percentage on the next increment. That's what we don't have today. A fair graduated tax system. The billionaire didn't pay 90% on every dime he earned. Only on the amount above a certain threshold. And by the way, the billionaires today are getting a free ride by average taxpayers because many of them don't pay income taxes because their Wall Street earnings allow them to be paid as if they were capital gains at 15%. Fix the system.
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Reuben Ryder Cornwall Yesterday
Bernie is a beast. He's honest, so he stands alone. It will be interesting to see what kind of treatment he receives from the media, who is as responsible as either political party for the polarization and the downward slide of this country in terms of the failure to generate an all inclusive economy with a strong middle class. This article already attempts to frame him as incidental by aligning him solely with the young and the old. On the surface, that may be true, but it is not the story. It is just another way to marginalize some one by invoking existing biases within the culture. Bernie is a problem that's not going to go away. He's from Brucklin, you know, and he's fired up.
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RCT New York, N.Y. Yesterday
I younger than Sanders, but over 55, and you bet I think that Bernie has the right message. Bernie Sanders will care that people my age are losing jobs and, due to age discrimination, cannot find new ones. He will not let us lose our
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)A very, very good sign!
marym625
(17,997 posts)We need you
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Hope they return soon. A veritable wealth of information that one.
marym625
(17,997 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)The more that know...!