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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGov. Perdue: 'We look like Mississippi'
GREENVILLE, N.C. (WTVD) -- North Carolina Governor Beverly Perdue had strong words Friday when asked about Tuesday's vote on Amendment One.
"We look like Mississippi," the governor told WITN-TV.
Perdue, who previously said she was against the amendment, told WITN that the vote is wrong for the state.
"People around the country are watching us and they're really confused to have been such a progressive forward thinking economically driven state that invested in education and that stood up for the civil rights people including the civil rights marches back in the 50's and 60's and 70's," said Perdue. "People are saying what in the world is going on with North Carolina, we look like Mississippi."
read: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news%2Fpolitics&id=8657823
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)a shitty State when NC is correct about something like this.
Bake
(21,977 posts)If you don't want to look like Mississippi (OMG!), don't act like it. Stop pretending you're any better than the last state in the Union, because hey, YOU'RE NOT.
Bake
emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Perdue, a Democrat, spoke out against the amendment. She also is not seeking another term and so apparently feels more free to speak harshly against the voters of the state. For a politician, this is actually a pretty harsh dig at the voters.
Bake
(21,977 posts)I'm sure the Gov is mortified.
Bake
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
grantcart
(53,061 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(13,989 posts)jobycom
(49,038 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)that comments on someone or their actions.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)she didn't really mean too.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Bring in the feds. nt
Chan790
(20,176 posts)There isn't a North Carolinian alive, bigot or otherwise, that wants to be compared to South Carolinians because they look at S. Carolina the way we all look at the rest of the South.
daaron
(763 posts)That is, if we wanted to go the route of SHAMING North Carolina. Maybe a bill at the Federal Level to combine the two states into "Carolina"? I'm from out west, and all those eastcoast states are just so teensy. Mash 'em together, kick out Texas, throw in Puerto Rico and the Northern Marianna Islands, and we won't even have to change our flags!
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)there is much truth to what you say.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)I keep hearing how North Carolina is a much more liberal, superior place compared to this state. I have been criticized for pointing out that there really is little difference between the two. This vote proves me correct. AFAIC, North Carolina is just a more populous version of its neighbor to the south.
obamanut2012
(25,911 posts)The A1 debacle nonwithstanding.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)obamanut2012
(25,911 posts)In every way.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)You keep saying there are huge differences, yet you don't name any.
Traditionally is more progressive economically, spends more on schools (UNC is probably the best university system in the south), spends more on infrastructure, has significantly higher taxes, and is much more likely to elect Democrats. Handled desegregation far better, among other things. If you honestly can't see a difference between NC and the freaking Last Bastion of the Confederacy, I don't know what to say.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)It's just as bigoted and homophobic as it's neighbor to the South. If you honestly can't see that, I don't know what to say.
As for being more likely to elect Democrats, you mean like Heath Schuler and Mike McIntyre?
And, FWIW, I think South Carolina is one of the biggest shitholes on the planet. I just don't think its neighbors on either side are any different. They're bigger, but not better.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)not necessarily reality.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)South Carolina's marriage amendment doesn't ban ALL domestic partnerships, not just same-sex, unlike that of its neighbor to the north. That's reality.
tblue37
(64,982 posts)Of course, that was many years ago.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)barbtries
(28,702 posts)i agree with her. it's a black mark on the state of NC.
patricia92243
(12,590 posts)the vote indicates. Guess I was wrong
just1voice
(1,362 posts)They don't care very much when taking money from huge corporations and special interests.
emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)Her statement is not about what her state looks like, it is about what the voters of the state have done.
See post 16 below.
zzaapp
(531 posts)kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)zzaapp
(531 posts)emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)Amendment 1 of 2004 is an amendment to the Mississippi Constitution that prohibited same-sex marriages from being conducted or recognized in Mississippi. The Amendment passed a public referendum on November 2, 2004 with 86% of voters supporting and 14% opposing.
The text of the adopted amendment, which is found at Article XIV, section 263A of the Mississippi Constitution, states:
Marriage may take place and may be valid under the laws of this state only between a man and a woman. A marriage in another state or foreign jurisdiction between persons of the same gender, regardless of when the marriage took place, may not be recognized in this state and is void and unenforceable under the laws of this state.
See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Mississippi
A November 2011 Public Policy Polling survey found that only 13% of Mississippi voters supported the legalization of same-sex marriage, while 78% were opposed and 9% were not sure. A separate question on the same survey found that 38% of respondents supported legal recognition of same-sex couples, with 10% supporting same-sex marriage and 28% supporting civil unions, 60% opposed all legal recognition, and 2% were not sure, making Mississippi one of the most conservative states in the country on the issue.
Are they the only State that has ammedment?
emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)In the 2011 poll, only %13 percent supported marriage equality, while 78% were against it and 9% were 'unsure.'
Your question was "But is it a fair comparison, or a stereotype?"
This data supports it is a fair comparison and not a stereotype.
zzaapp
(531 posts)But are there other states that have that ammendment? I'm too lazy to look it up. lol
emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)zzaapp
(531 posts)Selatius
(20,441 posts)Perdue's reference was to Mississippi's own referendum on gay marriage several years back. The amendment was written overly broad to ban both civil unions for gays and regular gay marriage.
zzaapp
(531 posts)Is it the "politicians" of North Carolina who want the ban?
Or was this put up for a vote to the people of North Carolina?
Selatius
(20,441 posts)zzaapp
(531 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)And looking for my first chance to leave
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Here's another reference to Mississippi's bad old dog:
Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition Dubs Occupy Phoenix the 'Mississippi of this Movement'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-dangelo/jesse-jackson-group-dubs-_b_1130021.html
zzaapp
(531 posts)Is that the first race riots I remember as a kid happened in Boston.
Just sayin..
Zorra
(27,670 posts)(which is never gonna happen), maybe they could put mean old fido to sleep.
And maybe not.
AUGUST 10, 2011 7:00PM
Mississippi is Still Burning with Racism
http://open.salon.com/blog/ryanpsych/2011/08/10/mississippi_is_still_burning_with_racism
zzaapp
(531 posts)Every State has a black mark on it somewhere. Even Boston
(where I'm from)
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Only six states in the US are compelled to have any changes in state-mandated voting laws to be reviewed at the federal level due to their history of disenfranchisement. Massachusetts is not one of them, Mississippi is...
Some black marks are merely history, while other black marks are part and parcel of the here and now.
Just sayin', Part II
zzaapp
(531 posts)zzaapp
(531 posts)The first and only real Ku Kluxers I ever saw where walking down the street at night....in Connecticut.
Scared the crap out of me.
I thought they were everywhere.
I know I can drive about an half hour from my house and find some right away. They used to be in my town but the Neo-Confederate/Neo-Nazis drove them out of town.
I'm sure they ARE everywhere, like roaches.
xmas74
(29,658 posts)They are everywhere, not just in some small examples one or two here would like to provide.
Stuckinthebush
(10,816 posts)Misssissippi really does suck. However, they did defeat that personhood silliness a few months back so they have that going for them. Maybe NC is really worse than MS now.
zzaapp
(531 posts)I am not from Mississippi, never even BEEN there.
zzaapp
(531 posts)I'm sure that every State has it's good and bad points.
"If there is one thing I hate, it's people who are intolerant
of other peoples culture....that ...and the DUTCH"
jobycom
(49,038 posts)I'm pissed at her comparison, but a lot more pissed at Amendment One and the people who support such things.
And even us liberals in Mississippi (or from Mississippi, since I moved away) understand why our state means what it means. Fighting bigotry by appealing to bigotry is never the best strategy, but I've given up hoping for a high road in politics.
zzaapp
(531 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,217 posts)Mississippi is only behind California and Texas in number of groups. If you rank that as a % of population, thats pretty ugly.
Rittermeister
(170 posts)according to that map, half of NC's hate groups are black separatists.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)If there's only 10 white supremacists in your town, you aren't gonna be able to form two separate groups.
Judean People's Front excluded.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)that California is WAY out in front, relative to the populations of the next most populous states (Florida, Texas, New York, etc)...
WAY out in front.
Work it out statistically--it's fair to say that California has the edge in hate groups in this country.
zzaapp
(531 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)They really are the laughingstock of the South.
Stuckinthebush
(10,816 posts)Even those people in South Georgia!
zzaapp
(531 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,816 posts)It was a joke hence the smiley
zzaapp
(531 posts)I was being sort of sarcastic, when I said "Hate is such an ugly word" It was aimed at the hypersensitive. I haven't
got the hang of the icons yet.
"We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts! Here's proof: his nose is cold! But there's no animal that's more faithful, that's more loyal, more loveable than the mutt. Who saw "Old Yeller?" Who cried when Old Yeller got shot at the end?"
Harriety
(298 posts)Our Governor was opposed to it but the Repub legislature voted to have the amendment up for vote during this next election. I hope we here will be above voting for that POS amendment, but some people have a strange way of thinkin' and I don't care where they are from.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Initech
(99,915 posts)That was just another one of fucking W's miserably failed policies. It should not be left to the states!! It should be legalized on a federal level.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)..but still, not cool to put down an entire state like that.
There are good people in Mississippi.
obamanut2012
(25,911 posts)She's far from perfect. but she has some some good guts against the NC GOP.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)This is one of those times.