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Is the most advertised product the best product ? (Original Post) olddots May 2015 OP
depends on the BFF du jour... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #1
Or most popular? HassleCat May 2015 #2
Sometimes "popularity" is more a case of lack of options Scootaloo May 2015 #6
Like Budweiser, or Walmart, or McDonalds... you know, big corporate $$$ means "the best"! nt Romulox May 2015 #3
A question worthy of exploration. DirkGently May 2015 #4
I know nothing about Martin O'Mally olddots May 2015 #5
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
1. depends on the BFF du jour...
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:10 PM
May 2015

today some on the far left are singing the O'malley jingles..

unfortunately...he is not even as far left as Clinton...its hilarious to watch!

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Or most popular?
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:11 PM
May 2015

Almost by definition, the most popular candidate is the "best" because he or she is the one who will win. And there is the momentum thing. The media reinforce the idea that the candidate with the "momentum" is the right one, and everybody should hop on the bandwagon that is moving the fastest and has the most passengers.

Of course, we know none of this applies in other areas. We know musicians who sell the most records are often not very good. Back in the 1970s, millions of people owned Pet Rocks, but you won't find anyone who will admit to ever having one. And so on. We all want to be different, but we all want to be normal, so we gravitate toward the middle, and we accept the idea that the best thing is what "they" say is best or "everybody" agrees is what we should do.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Sometimes "popularity" is more a case of lack of options
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:03 PM
May 2015

Romulox brings up Budweiser. Nobody I have ever met actually likes Budweiser. even the people who buy it, buy it because it's cheap and gets you smashed as well as anything else. They'll freely admit there are other beers that are better that they'd rather be drinking, but a combination of affordability and availability forces their choice for them. McDonalds does best in communities that lack pre-existing burger jukes, exit-ramp eat-and-shit locations, and tourist stops - it's not so much popular as it is ubiquitous and easy to obtain.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
4. A question worthy of exploration.
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:19 PM
May 2015

There is a very hard push in general that things should happen politically based on the mass of money behind them. To equate dollars with viability. It happens not just with candidates, but with legislation and policy.

Of course that thinking comes from those with the most dollars to swing around. It seems perfectly just to the Mitt Romneys of the world that cash in the bank should equate to legitimacy. It's an old philosophy, going back to the idea that only white male landowners should vote.

It's the philosophy still very much underlying the Republican approach to politics, and it's seeped further into the Dems as well. There are a lot of reasons for it: not just elitism, but also the BUSINESS of politics. A lot of people make their living based on the money that campaigns can spread around, and increasingly, I see a push to conflate political campaigns with a business enterprise -- how much "product" can you move? How many "employees" can you support?

Of course, policy is supposed to be about the common good, but it's forever being implied that either isn't true (a strange position) or that it isn't practically viable. Money is speech and corporations are "people" is the motto, and it's assumed and implied by even by many who won't say it.

The new no-holds-barred world of dark money and Super PACs bestowed on us by the Supreme Court is having some interesting effects though. How many Republican Presidential contenders are we up to now? 10? 12? And they keep on coming. Because it's no longer a big risk or a financial struggle to field a national campaign. It's become a marketing enterprise. Gingrich wasn't going to win. Cruz isn't going to win. Pataki may not even be allowed into a debate.

But they can all raise their profiles, employ their friends; sell books. All while jetting around on billionaires' tabs. It's a game.

I wonder though, when actual reality is going to overwhelm the kind of dumb-dumb numbers game philosophy behind all of this. Plenty of billionaire / Wall Street / Koch-backed candidates have fallen squarely on their faces. Districts may be skewed and votes may even be sullied, but there are still a lot of voters in the country, and they're not getting paid for how they decide.

What happens when he / she with the most cash doesn't win, again? And again? When the calculus of the throngs of paid surrogates and consultants and operatives can't browbeat everyone into voting a certain way simply because the money all lies on one side?

What happens to sensible pragmatism then?

indeed, eh?

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
5. I know nothing about Martin O'Mally
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:20 PM
May 2015

as many hin the country new much about Dennis Kucinich .

This candidate we buy is very important decission maybe a life or death decission for some people .

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