I'm back.

[L. Coyote]

After years of silence, I've posted on DU again (eternally messing up my post count of 10,000 times pi).

But, I had a good reason, I'm call on all statisticians to review something:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10911213

[irisblue]

1. welcome home

[L. Coyote]

2. Thanks.

Love the "home" instead of back.

I've been here, just lurking.

[hunter]

3. I'm not on Facebook, so I can't see it.

Just the way I like it!

Nevertheless, welcome back.

The wonderful thing about math is you can always find special numbers, whether it be your number of DU posts, or...

I'm going to horrify some here, but even Euler's beautiful identity is tautology.



In the "real world" things always get messy.

I've no doubt elections in many parts of the U.S.A. are rotten, in many multiple ways.

I once took a class taught by a prominent ecologist. He didn't actually get home in time to start the class, and was in a place where he couldn't simply call home and say he was going to be late. (This was before satellite phones, cell phones, or any other modern magic.) The administration assigned a wonderful mathematical ecologist to teach the class, and he pushed our skills in calculus and statistics quite hard.

The prominent professor made it back home, took over his class and told us the math may work well in theory, but even the most meticulous fruit fly experimenters had great difficulty making their models work.

Nature is complicated. Elections are complicated.

There was a lot of rat-fucking going on in the "Black Box Voting" fiasco.

[L. Coyote]

4. And a lot of voter suppression going on too.

But, not every election is rigged, and you certainly don't have to rig many the alter the course of history. Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 taught us that much.

[PeaceNikki]

6. I couldn't see the contents on the Wisconsin post without joining the group and I don't want to, but

I call BS. I'm in Wisconsin, I work the elections and there would have to be a lot of people involved to pull off stealing an election here. Also, I live and work with residents of Wisconsin, I'm involved in local politics, and I live in a red area. I hate it, but Walker won. Obama also won twice. Handily. And Tammy Baldwin was elected. Democrats here do great in GEs but Republicans do better mid term. It's how it is. It needs to change, but it's true.

I know, they think I'm a "naysayer". Whatever. I'll here.

And welcome home.

[L. Coyote]

9. This is what it is all about:

Thanks. Feels good to be posting again.

Charnin seems to think his simple chart is absolute proof of a stolen election:

Wisconsin 2014 Governor: Cumulative Ward Voting Indicates Fraud
https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/12/02/11623/

Contradict him or point out his mistakes, and you get called names, but no direct answer to a real question.

Several of us mathy geeks found some real irregularity in the 2011 Supreme Court election in Milwaukee City wards, the bluest of the blue wards shifting red the most in the state. Proving fraud or even shouting it is an entirely different matter.



More here, charts and spreadsheet: http://jqjacobs.net/politics/spreadsheets.html#wisconsin

[L. Coyote]

10. ooophs

wrong spot

[L. Coyote]

11. again

[L. Coyote]

12. again

[pintobean]

5. Good to see you again.

[Luminous Animal]

7. Cool!

[tritsofme]

8. Don't even bother. I'm 99.598787444% sure that guy is a loon.

Good to see you post!

[L. Coyote]

13. So now: I'm a "charlatan" and getting banned from DU is a "Badge of Honor"

Wouldn't it be nice if this could just be about statistics and the facts, the numbers, instead of name-calling.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/elecinteg/permalink/906572149381521/

Richard Charnin writes:

So now the naysayer Jim Jacobs, who failed to discredit me here on EI, is taking his road show back to the Democratic Underground. Jacobs was soundly exposed by yours truly, but thinks he will get sympathy from DU naysayers who still don't believe that elections are stolen or that unadjusted exit polls are accurate. These DUers hijacked my posts in 2004-5. They know zilch about math and are the perfect audience for charlatans like Jacobs. Birds of a feather....

I was banned from DU in 2005 (posting as TruthIsAll). It is a Badge of Honor. I had the audacity to prove that elections were fraudulent and were stolen from the Democrats in 2000, 2002, 2004 - and that they did nothing about it.

(Sorry, I'm having to relearn to use DU.)

[L. Coyote]

14. Beware who you quote! Some welcome home this is.

Last edited Sun May 31, 2015, 09:00 AM - Edit history (1)

My GD post was hidden by a jury. Did the alerter confuse the quotation and my post??

To be perfectly clear, I'm not making a mockery of DU. I just quoted the twice-banned DU'er who did so because I posted about him on DU.

Hidden thread is here:

TruthIsAll: Getting banned from DU is a "Badge of Honor" and "They know zilch ..."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026755746

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

I don't like an OP that tries to make a mockery of DU and our members. Clearly didn't learn anything from the ban in 2005. We have discussed this topic amongst ourselves and understand that they were stolen especially 2000 and 2004. But we have discussed them as adults and not childishly.

I'm not the one who wrote the quotation. Richard Charnin, the twice-tombstoned author of this quote, wrote the following about ME and about DU:

So now the naysayer Jim Jacobs, who failed to discredit me here on EI, is taking his road show back to the Democratic Underground. He still posts there as L. Coyote.

Jacobs was soundly exposed by yours truly, but thinks he will get sympathy from DU naysayers who still don't believe that elections are stolen or that unadjusted exit polls are accurate. These DUers hijacked my posts in 2004-5. They know zilch about math and are the perfect audience for charlatans like Jacobs. Birds of a feather....

I was banned from DU in 2005 (posting as TruthIsAll). It is a Badge of Honor. I had the audacity to prove that elections were fraudulent and were stolen from the Democrats in 2000, 2002, 2004 - and that they did nothing about it.

(https://www.facebook.com/groups/elecinteg/permalink/906572149381521/)

Needless to say here on DU, I proved the Ohio 2004 Presidential election was being rigged and it is a consensus here that they were stolen. That much is old history:

How Kerry Votes Were Switched To Bush Votes - http://jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html

"In a subset of 166,953 votes, one of every 34 Ohio voters, the Kerry-Bush margin
shifts six percent when the population is sorted by outcomes of wrong-precinct voting."

OHIO 2004: 6.15% Kerry-Bush vote-switch found in probability study
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x259620