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[Segami]

1. Source link please.

[Agschmid]

2. .

http://vtdigger.org/2011/09/27/jane-sanders-resigns-presidency-of-burlington-college-reaches-settlement/

[KMOD]

4. Thanks, I forgot to link it.

I'll add it.

[yeoman6987]

27. I thought she retired in 2011.

I'm confused.

[Agschmid]

31. I also was under that impression...

At least that's when Seven Days reported it, maybe they just reached a settlement?

[yeoman6987]

34. Maybe. I just wonder why it matters to us.

I guess everything will be thrown at Berney including the kitchen sink. Well he is strong and can take it. I am for Hillary but I find this unnecessary.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. And this is relevant how?

[KMOD]

6. It's just as relevant as the Clinton speeches which seem to be brought up

5 times per day.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. Well, the fact that Bernie's wife sucked as a college president

should be no more relevant than the fact that Hillary's husband got sucked as U.S. president.

[KMOD]

14. No should it be anymore relevant than gossip crap made up to tie Clinton to

Wall Street Banksters.

Everyday there is more and more crap posted here about HRC that is nothing more than right wing talking points.

Everyday they are debunked, and yet a new clown posts the same spin the next day.

If people here want to bash Clinton unfairly, over and over, I say this is fair game as well. I've been polite, I have not criticized Senator Sanders or any other candidate, yet it seems to me that any crap about HRC can been posted and left alone.

But you're right. I shouldn't just single out his wife. I should post crap about Senator Sanders as well.

But people also post crap about former President Bill Clinton and tie it to HRC as well.

[AgingAmerican]

35. So you are saying your op is flamebait?

nt

[KMOD]

37. Nope.

This is worthy discussion.

[AgingAmerican]

38. You admit it's flame bait, then deny it?

No should it be anymore relevant than gossip crap made up to tie Clinton to

Wall Street Banksters.

But you're right. I shouldn't just single out his wife. I should post crap about Senator Sanders as well.

Integrity much?

[Thinkingabout]

16. Exactly why this becomes relevent. We are not lily white.

[Segami]

13. I see a double standard here...

I recall posting an article about JEB's wife Columba Bush who was 'detained and fined by federal customs officials for misrepresenting the amount of clothing and jewelry she had bought while on a solo five-day shopping spree in Paris'.

Skinner posted on my thread that it was agreed or understood that candidate spouses should be off limits throughout this election cycle......

[KMOD]

21. Bill Clinton is not off limits.

Made up crap about HRC is not off limits.

[AgingAmerican]

36. Bill Clinton was president of the United States

So you admit you are trying to smear Sanders.

Integrity much?

[KMOD]

39. I believe this is worthy of discussion.

But since you mention it, why is Hillary Clinton considered the same mind as her husband, but Bernie Sanders is not the same mind as his wife?

Double standard?

[beam me up scottie]

20. So because you don't like it when others do it you're doing the same thing?

Candidate's spouses and children should be off limits.

[KMOD]

22. I've been polite.

I'm tired of all the RW talking points used to hit HRC.

This is a real story. This actually happened.

[beam me up scottie]

25. If you're tired of those tactics don't use them.

No amount of politeness excuses going after families.

[KMOD]

28. What about going after made up conspiracy theories against one of our candidates?

That seem perfectly ok.

[beam me up scottie]

32. Did I do that?

I know I have waking dreams but this is getting ridiculous.

Again, if you don't like it when others use unfair tactics against your candidate then protest - loudly, call for reason, post and rec the hell out of positive threads, do whatever it takes but by attacking the families of candidates you're going to destroy your own credibility.

[drray23]

9. just as relevant as blaming hillary for what bill did.

when you run for president, everything will be scrutinized, including your family. Bernie will be no exception.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. In other words, not relevant at all.

[Sancho]

5. I suppose that one's spouse reflects one's values...here's more on the story...

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/burlington-college-students-press-for-changes-after-profs-dismissal/Content?oid=2135730

Students at Burlington College voiced frustration and outrage last week over the recent dismissal of a popular literature professor, prompting an emergency meeting of the college’s Board of Trustees.

At Friday’s marathon, five-hour session, students demanded that the board implement significant policy reforms, including the adoption of a formal grievance policy for faculty and staff and more checks and balances on the college’s president. They also requested partial tuition reimbursement for students whose classes were disrupted by the dismissal of the professor, Genese Grill.

The meeting, most of which was conducted behind closed doors, brought to a boil a controversy that’s been simmering for months at the tiny liberal-arts college overlooking Lake Champlain. In September, representatives of the Student Government Association (SGA) began meeting with students, faculty and staff about what they described as a “toxic and disruptive environment” on campus, which they blame on Burlington College President Jane O’Meara Sanders.

Seventy-four of the college’s 170 students and 11 faculty and staff signed a petition calling for the emergency meeting and expressing the view that there’s a “crisis in leadership” at the school.

[DURHAM D]

8. This appears to be an article from 2011.

Why are you posting it? I don't like hit pieces on candidate's spouses. Period.

[Thinkingabout]

19. Get the posting about Bill stopped, that happened on thr '90's

[KMOD]

30. I would usually agree, except many here at posting

BS hit posts on HRC daily.

[peecoolyour]

11. ...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Candidate's spouses should be off limits.

We need to set better examples.

[delrem]

17. I disagree.

Informed discussions of politicians and their families should happen, and this is just information pertinent to informed discussion.

I say the same thing about any politician, US politician, Canadian politician, Russian politician, Saudi politician, or whatever.

So you want to protect politicians from scrutiny, even when some of them openly brag about expecting to raise billions to promote their political candidacy?

[KMOD]

18. Bill Clinton seems to be fair game.

HRC seems to hold the blame for everything he did as well.

[peecoolyour]

15. Her leadership was so awful that it earned her this:

Dr. Sanders retired as president of Burlington College in the fall of 2011. In recognition of her many accomplishments, the college bestowed upon her the title of President Emerita, until now, a distinction only given to the college’s founder.

https://www.myunion.edu/about/notables/jane-sanders/

[cyberswede]

23. Interesting in what way?

The wife of someone who wasn't running for president 4 years ago resigned from a position in which she wasn't particularly successful?

[Scootaloo]

33. KMOD thinks he's "getting revenge" for another thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026764218

In which he threatened to sling shit about Sanders if I didn't stop asking for his facts. it's petty and ridiculous, but kind of expected

[KMOD]

40. She, not he.

It's not revenge.

This is just as worthy of a discussion as the other topics. Only this one has actual sources.

[geek tragedy]

24. Okay. Not gonna vote for her. nt

[Luminous Animal]

26. There is not one time I've criticized the actions of a candidates spouse and the candidate

has endorsed the actions of said spouse.

I had nothing but respect for Ms Clinton during the Lewinsky debacle. And her husband's flat out disrespect for her has absolutely nothing to do with her competency as a chief executive.

[MuseRider]

29. How did I miss this?

I thought I was pretty clear what was going on in the Sanders campaign but I missed her jumping in the race as well!

Really? This is no more fair than people making Hillary eat what Bill did while president. If she did not weigh in on it she is not accountable for it.