Bernie Sanders on Late Night w/ Seth Meyers: Plans to Vote Against Patriot Act Replacement (VIDEO)

[Hissyspit]

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Sen. Sanders discusses the Patriot Act, "50 Shades of Grey," and his folk-"singing" "career." This segment does not include the beginning of the interview where he explains Democratic Socialism.

[Egnever]

1. Holy crap wtf

Why did he vote for cloture then?

Just makes no sense at all.

[sabrina 1]

2. A procedural vote, he explained it. He always intended to vote against it, as he has said. Did you

listen to what he said?

[TheKentuckian]

10. Love Bernie but that is a cop out like voting for fast track and then voting against the TPP

later when passage is assured.

I'm believe he has a deal so Democrats don't come after him hammer and tongs but that is speculation and no should be no not I was for it before I was against it and vice versa.

Bernie is still the best running and one of a select handful of the best of the best but the procedural vote is a cop out and an excuse done for seemingly little effect than tarnishing himself.

No it isn't okay, but he does remain far and away the best option.

[Kalidurga]

6. cloture:

noun
1.
a method of closing a debate and causing an immediate vote to be taken on the question.

let me know if you have any more questions.

[Egnever]

13. Seriously ?

Have you not been paying attention the last 6 years?

Everything the republicans blocked didn't happen in an up or down vote it was blocked by filibuster of the cloture vote.

The excuse for this is fucking ridiculous. If he wanted to vote against it the cloture vote was the time . His vote won't be anywhere near as effective in the regular vote.

Bernie isn't stupid he knows this damn well. He is counting on the electorate being stupid enough to buy his ridiculous notion that voting against it when it won't matter is some how more important than voting against it when there was actually a chance of stopping it.

It is complete nonsense and makes it very clear that Bernie is pretending to do something.

I couldn't be more disappointed.

[Kalidurga]

15. how do you filibuster a cloture?

[Egnever]

16. The cloture vote is to end the filibuster

And takes 60 votes as opposed to the simple majority. After cloture there is no filibuster.

The time to stop a bill is before cloture and voting for it removes the biggest hurdle to passing a bill.

The idea that someone is trying to stop a bill by voting for cloture is ridiculous on it's face.

Something someone who supposedly wants to explain things to people should know and something Bernie certainly knows, but he played you and a lot of others for rubes counting on you not to understand basic senate procedure.
https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=15141

[Kalidurga]

17. I actually get that

he made voted so there could be an up or down vote. And I still don't care. It can pass or not.

[Egnever]

18. It is a ridiculous assertion

If you are against something you don't vote to make it easier to pass.

That's like saying you should vote for fast tracking the TPP so you can stop it in an up or down vote.

Pure BS

And very disappointing coming from the supposed principled candidate.

[Kalidurga]

19. I prefer they vote the sooner the better.

I want names on the record.

[lovemydog]

3. Thanks Hissyspit.

I love it when people post clips here. He's a funny guy who can laugh at himself.

If anyone can find the rest of the interview where he talks about Democratic Socialism, please post it. I looked on youtube and couldn't find it. Maybe it will be up later.

[marym625]

9. Here's the post

But I linked to both posts already up for discussion. Not trying to detract from that

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128010931

[Bonobo]

4. Can you IMAGINE a POTUS that has such a strong sense of what is right, that he/she doesn't deliver

copious heaps of damage-controlling BULLSHIT overtime they open their mouth?

Wouldn't that be fucking amazing?

[Egnever]

14. Lol he just delivered copious amounts of bullshit

With his vote for cloture. The fact that not only are people swallowing that nonsense he just pulled but using the thread that points out what nonsense he is spewing while pretending how principled he is is so ludicrous it is difficult to believe.

[davidpdx]

5. Oh that folk album is a serious problem

Too funny.......

[sabrina 1]

12. That was funny! Lol!

[TexasBushwhacker]

7. I love how Bernie emphasized FAIRNESS

He just laid it out there and said since the 1% has gotten 99% of the income gains over the last few decades, they just newd to pay THEIR FAIR SHARE of taxes. He talked about Warren Buffet paying a lower % in taxes than his secretary. Warren said that years ago and still nothing has changed. He also mentioned corporations offshoring their trillions of profits in tax havens. Bernie needs to hammer home the FAIRNESS angle.

And the "folk singing" was hilarious!

[marym625]

8. I posted both parts with links to both yours and Sabrina1's posts

Just so it's all in one place. I think with one in the Sanders group and one in GD, the conversations may be a tad bit different

[Enthusiast]

11. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!