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H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:25 AM Jun 2015

Wow! (Your Opinion, Please!)

An associate just sent me the following link. It is to a news article, complete with an audio recording of Senator Ted Cruz. I read the article and listened to the recording; admittedly, I am only half-way through my first cup of coffee this morning, and can't be 100% sure, but I suspect that this could remove this pimple on the republican party's ass.

http://www.thestatelyharold.com/#!Exclusive-Ted-Cruz-calls-Obama-an-Nword-in-secret-audio-recording/cmbz/556c8bde0cf2312d7962f040

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Wow! (Your Opinion, Please!) (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2015 OP
Here's the recording. Hard to tell if it's him, at least for me. DanTex Jun 2015 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author sharp_stick Jun 2015 #18
Well, it's not like blacks were going to vote for him to begin with. malthaussen Jun 2015 #3
I honestly can't tell, but it sure wouldn't surprise me. cali Jun 2015 #4
I think it's a satire site. bravenak Jun 2015 #5
That is not very good satire. It is offensive. morningfog Jun 2015 #14
Terrible. Not even funny. Just nasty. bravenak Jun 2015 #16
Since genuine satire such as The Onion and Andy Borowitz have become indistinguishable from reality IDemo Jun 2015 #24
It's not true tkmorris Jun 2015 #6
Looks like this is satire, based on other articles on that website. DanTex Jun 2015 #7
Sadly, I am pretty positive that Cruz is just saying what most of the GOP say when they think djean111 Jun 2015 #8
I can't tell if it sounds like Ted Cruz JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #9
Cruz has a very smarmy distinctive voice. Greybnk48 Jun 2015 #10
Satire. spyker29 Jun 2015 #11
If it is him or not. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #12
There are enough bigots in Texas to agree with carnival TexasProgresive Jun 2015 #13
Disclaimer: The Stately Harold is satirical fabulation and fabrication. No stories presented have a Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #15
It is a satire site. The story is a total fabrication. tblue37 Jun 2015 #17
One less in the clown car brush Jun 2015 #19
satire site . . . read their disclaimer DrDan Jun 2015 #20
He's a Faux pas Jun 2015 #21
Stick to The Onion and Borowitz, IMHO. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #22
I don't think its him... yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #23
I hope that Cruz will deny it fadedrose Jun 2015 #25
Sorry blogslut Jun 2015 #26
That's a clearly labled satire site. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #27

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
1. Here's the recording. Hard to tell if it's him, at least for me.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jun 2015


If this is actually Ted Cruz, his career is over. I don't know his voice well enough to tell, and without other evidence, I don't think it's conclusive.

Response to DanTex (Reply #1)

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
3. Well, it's not like blacks were going to vote for him to begin with.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:31 AM
Jun 2015

I'm sure there will be good excuses offered, or it will be claimed the sound quality is insufficient to determine the word used. Granted, I've only just started on my first cup of coffee this morning, but I think they'll brazen it out.

On edit: from comments appearing downstream, it appears Poe's Law is in operation.

-- Mal

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
24. Since genuine satire such as The Onion and Andy Borowitz have become indistinguishable from reality
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jun 2015

Wannbe's have taken a sharp downwards turn in the rhetoric to try to get their point across.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
6. It's not true
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:32 AM
Jun 2015

WHAT was said is clear as day. I just can't be certain it was Cruz that said it. Sure sounds like him though.

On edit: This is on the "about us" page of the site linked to. "Disclaimer: The Stately Harold is satirical fabulation and fabrication. No stories presented have a grain of truth to them".

So... it's a fake.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. Sadly, I am pretty positive that Cruz is just saying what most of the GOP say when they think
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:32 AM
Jun 2015

no one else is listening or recording, and that this, sorry to say, won't lose any support or votes for Cruz that he already has. Maybe it would energize more voters to vote for Obama if Cruz was running against Obama, but that is not the case. But I think that it might even get Cruz more support from voters, if not from GOP hierarchy. It would be a big mistake to think the GOP has any shame.

If it is satire, or not - i don't think it will hurt Cruz at all.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
9. I can't tell if it sounds like Ted Cruz
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:34 AM
Jun 2015

or Ross Perot.

It didn't sound much like Ted Cruz's "public speaking" voice.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. If it is him or not.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jun 2015

I will bet he has to consciously think about not using the word in reference to Obama.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
13. There are enough bigots in Texas to agree with carnival
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jun 2015

and give him their vote. If I was a bigot like him I would say we have a s(word) or g(word) in the Senate. It's ironic because his voters would use those pejorative words to describe him. "Well he is a Güero (light skin) nearly gringo so it's alright."

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
15. Disclaimer: The Stately Harold is satirical fabulation and fabrication. No stories presented have a
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jun 2015

The Stately Harold
Disclaimer: The Stately Harold is satirical fabulation and fabrication. No stories presented have a grain of truth to them


Another telling quote from the original source.
Exclusive: Ted Cruz calls Obama an N-word in secret audio recording

The statement is already drawing angry reactions from liberal groups such as the organisation VLLWOOE "Vocal Loud Liberals With Opinions On Everything", a spokesperson of which, Helen Eritas, had this to say to TSH:

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
17. It is a satire site. The story is a total fabrication.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jun 2015

From the "About" page for the site:

Disclaimer: The Stately Harold is satirical fabulation and fabrication. No stories presented have a grain of truth to them


ON EDIT: Oh, I see others beat me to it. I rushed to point out that it is untrue (without pausing to read the replies to the OP) because I feared others would run with it and thus offer a target for Tea Party operatives.

brush

(53,774 posts)
19. One less in the clown car
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:30 AM
Jun 2015

It's like in 2012 when the crowded repug field winnowed itself down with — I'll be kind — unforced errors, the worst and most consequential being Rmoney's "47%" remark, also caught on tape.

Buh-bye, Cruz, nice knowing you.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
20. satire site . . . read their disclaimer
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jun 2015

Disclaimer: The Stately Harold is satirical fabulation and fabrication. No stories presented have a grain of truth to them

on edit - guess I should have looked at the thread before posting - disclaimer posted several times

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
23. I don't think its him...
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:49 AM
Jun 2015

to my ears it doesn't sound like Ted Cruz. But if it proves to be him, a huge brick will be falling soon!

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
25. I hope that Cruz will deny it
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:56 AM
Jun 2015

if it's not true. Not for his sake, but for the President's sake. It will be difficult to complete his term with this insult flooding the Capitol and White House.

When one gets to the high level of the office of a US Senator, he and we would expect more. If Cruz did say it, it's sad for all of us that he made it this far, and this should be the end of his journey in politics.

Listening to the tape several times, I catch a word starting with an "L", not an "N", sounds like "leager," but that makes no sense at all. And the accent - isn't it deeper southern than Cruz' and his companion said it? It's obvious they are joking, but that doesn't excuse using the N word.

I am hoping he didn't say it, and that the word was not the N word.
In spite of that stupid Pamela Gelller woman, speech isn't free and there are consequences, like losing an election and making people feel hurt and angry....

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
27. That's a clearly labled satire site.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jun 2015

Disclaimer: The Stately Harold is satirical fabulation and fabrication. No stories presented have a grain of truth to them.

Also, an obvious satire site.....

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