Hillary’s ‘Progressive’ Effort Backfires, Wall Street Calls Her Out

[Segami]

Hillary Clinton’s left-ward shift was designed to appeal to progressive Americans. She has taken shots at Wall Street bankers, the very people who support her, and Wall Street isn’t happy about it reported Bloomberg.

“There’s something wrong when hedge fund managers pay lower tax rates than nurses or the truckers that I saw on I-80 as I was driving here over the last two days,” said Clinton in April.

“People aren’t getting a fair shake,” she said a month later. “Something is wrong when CEOs earn more than 300 times than what the typical American worker earns and when hedge fund managers pay a lower tax rate than truck drivers or nurses.”

Despite her recent cries against Wall Street financiers, Clinton has been known to consort with the group that she is criticizing on the campaign trail. Now, one hedge fund manager is calling Clinton out on her phoniness.

“I don’t need anybody crapping all over what I do for a living,” said Leon Cooper, a billionaire hedge fund manager. “[Clinton] hangs out with all these people in Martha’s Vineyard and in the Hamptons and then the very first thing she has to say is to criticize hedge fund managers.”

Cooper founded Omega Advisors hedge fund and regularly contributes to Republican election campaigns.

Clinton has been criticized for her cozy relationship with Wall Street financial institutions by fellow Democratic candidates Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley. She even has family ties to Wall Street as her son-in-law is the founding manager of the Eaglevale Partners, LP hedge fund.

When Clinton ran for president ran for president in 2008, Wall Street contributed over $20 million to her campaign. Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein reportedly said he’d be okay if either Clinton or Jeb Bush won next year.

http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2015/06/hillarys-progressive-effort-backfires-wall-street-calls-her-out/

[Mr. Robot]

1. Why pick the fake thing, when they can get the real thing

as in a Republican?

After all, Blankfein said he would be ok with either Bush or Clinton.

So let's give him something not to be happy about - Bernie Sanders.

[Trajan]

5. To quote Harry S. "Give'm Hell" Truman ...

“Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time”

[cascadiance]

6. And tweaking that to show why people follow Bernie too....

"Given the choice between a Democrat and someone who acts like a Democrat, people will vote for the real Democrat all the time"

Third Way candidates have to make up their mind where they fit on that spectrum or they will get ignored by both sides. The fear card of "the other side winning" only works a few times before people get tired of the results of it.

[daleanime]

53. +1

[840high]

35. Amen

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

21. In some ways, it's like Stockholm Syndrome around here

Who blew up the world economy?
Crooks and banksters

How do fix the world economy?
Hand $trillions to the crooks and banksters

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. The rich think the only way they can get what they want is through a "democrat"....

Because under a Republicans all of the Liberal groups are on 24/7 Red Alert.

Under a Democrat they don't find out about it until after it's done.

[merrily]

51. Preach!

Republicans may believe that certain things they hate are now possible only under Republicans.

If you don't agree with Roberts that Obamacare is a tax, Reagan and Bush 41 probably raised taxes and fees more than Clinton and Obama combined.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

83. Republican VOTERS believe what they're told though.....

They will get into a knock down drag out fight claiming the chocolate ration was RAISED from 30 grams to 20 grams.

[merrily]

84. Not all of them. I used to post on a board where people of all political views

could post. Some of them mentioned staying home in 2004. I've never done that, no matter what.

And a good many are loyal voters, no matter what they believe, just as we are.

Chocolate rationing? Grams? London, during the blitz?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

86. That's a "1984" reference.

[merrily]

87. Slipped my mind, but, at least I placed it correctly in time and place.

Orwell wrote that in 1948 and reversed the last two digits to get the title.

[tymorial]

76. well said

That was succinct and totally accurate. Simply brilliant.

[bvar22]

82. There are some things ONLY a Democrat could do,

...like kill Social Security.
President Obama broke the Taboo against touching the 3rd Rail when he offered up cuts to Social Security.
You can be sure that SS will NOW be a "bargaining chip" on the table at every budget negotiation.

[merrily]

85. And Medicare.

Bubba offered to help Ryan with it, too.

Other neoliberals have criticized him for not having followed through.

That bell cannot be unrung.

Now, anyone in power can say "Even Democrats know they have to be cut reformed."

[AtomicKitten]

2. Goldman Sachs CEO L. Blankfein reportedly said he’d be okay if either Clinton or Bush won next year.

Exactly! That says all we need to know about whose interests are served.

[randys1]

3. Wait, that says it ALL? Did you ask pregnant Women if it would be the same?

How about minorities?

[PowerToThePeople]

28. I will give you your point

The choice in this scenario is between

1) Bigoted, anti-choice fascist (Repuke)
2) Non-bigoted, pro-choice fascist. (other)

Fucking great selection we have going for us.

[HooptieWagon]

29. Wall St doesn't care about pregnant woman or minorities.

That's why they're equally happy if either a republican or Third Way Democrat wins...both will serve them.

[merrily]

52. "Wall Street" is usually code for fiscal matters. Typically, Wall Street doesn't

concern itself with who does or does not get abortions. They can send their wives and daughters to another country if necessary.

[randys1]

79. No , Wall Street does NOT care if YOUR wife can get

an abortion, but they also wont go out of their way to stop it.

Who cares are the santorums and perrys and walkers and even BUSH'S , why Bush?

Well while he is probably not against abortion he would INSTANTLY work to outlaw it if he thought it would get him ONE extra vote.

[elleng]

34. Martin O'Malley noted this fact,

in his campaign announcement:

[Mr. Robot]

36. So did Bernie..

O'Malley isn't polling well, currently.

[elleng]

38. People are learning about him;

he's just announced.

[Mr. Robot]

40. I'll give him plenty of time..

I'm just saying that he won't get out of single digits... and does have some baggages, but not as extensive as Hillary Clinton....

[elleng]

42. There's lots off info on his page here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1281

Here's why I support him:

Martin O'Malley:

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

There is a lot more, but I'll only add that Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

I don't take bets; I select my candidate. EVERYONE has baggage; Governor O'Malley has many significant achievements.

[merrily]

60. His positions are not newly minted.

That was a worry I had at first, but I've done some reading that has convinced me he is real.

[elleng]

65. His positions are based on conviction and experience.

[merrily]

66. I agree.

[merrily]

59. It was a good speech.

[arcane1]

4. Hell, even some of the repubs have donned progressive drag and talked about these thing.

To whom do I credit for this need for candidates to spout progressive-sounding slogans? Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders

[merrily]

61. Almost. Warren and Sanders have been outspoken, but they are only 2 votes.

No one in politics would be catering to Sanders and Warren if they were they indeed the outliers some would have had us believe they were.

Thing is, polls show more Americans agree with them on issues than agree with the far right, RINOs or DINOs on issues.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12777036

Moreover, while the Draft Warren movement has not caused Warren to jump into the race, it was a powerful hint as to where Democrats are.

[Ron Green]

7. Best not bite THAT hand. n/t

[AZ Progressive]

8. And hence why all the Hillary bashing here. She's a big phony

Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is the real deal.

[cali]

14. F for your extra special truthiness with a side of yummy Godwin!!

Yeah, Bernie Supporters are just like Nazis and Clinton supporters are the Jews.

Quite simply, that's just the truthiest thing I've ever seen.

Congratulations on that.

[Voice for Peace]

24. We ran Skinner from the site?

We did?

are you sure?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. I have been here for twelve years...

Skinner has never been a heavy poster...But when the campaign started he started several threads that were laudatory of Ms Clinton, recommended several threads that were laudatory of Ms. Clinton, and made several posts that were laudatory of Ms. Clinton.

I haven't seen a thread, a post, or a rec by him in weeks.

He did start this HilaryMojo thing to give HRC supporters a haven from DU.

There also is a post of Skinner where he suggested that when he created DU he never envisioned it as a place where Democrats are bashed,

[1StrongBlackMan]

39. +1 ...

BTW ... that was a BS hide.

[Mr. Robot]

43. You do know what Judenrein means?

Free of Jews.

DU is not certainly free of Clinton. Godwin's law.

[1StrongBlackMan]

44. Yes I do ...

DU is not certainly free of Clinton.

But not for trying. Internet Law.

[beam me up scottie]

48. Judenrein means 'cleansed of Jews'.

You don't think comparing Sanders supporters to Nazis is offensive?

[1StrongBlackMan]

50. I undestand this is the internet and hyperbole is to be expected. n/t

[merrily]

63. Does that apply to all equally?

[1StrongBlackMan]

72. Yes... I mean, No ...

I mean ... 42! What is it you are asking?

[nadinbrzezinski]

68. So calling the son

Of a holocause survivor supporters nazis is a ok with you.

That said, DSB post was hilarious from quite a different perspective. And I will leave it at that.

Ah there are some things one cannot make up. But there are some things that are not posted here.

[1StrongBlackMan]

71. No. It is not ...

but then, that wasn't done.

[nadinbrzezinski]

75. Well perhaps we read a different post

"hillaryrein" is a take on "judenrein." The Senator is Jewish. For the record, it is very insulting, there is an 'ism terms that comes to mind as well, and I say that as a daughter of a holocaust survivor as well who also lost most of my family in Poland. Lord knows I am not supporting anybody, but got the whiff of it.

It is a strong smell, and I am sure I will see more of those events where nothing like that is meant, but they are, happen in the next year or so. Will make this campaign all the more fun.

[beam me up scottie]

88. I'm not going to jump on you because you didn't post that despicable slur, 1SBM.

But as the daughter of a someone who barely survived Nazi Germany perhaps you can understand why I think likening Hillary supporters to Holocaust victims is extremely offensive.

Jews, homosexuals, and other minorities were the victims of genocide, comparing their fate to someone getting their feelings hurt on the internet is unacceptable.


This is a liberal website created by and for Democrats, I expect better from its members.

[merrily]

62. It's only Sanders' DU supporters being compared to Nazis, not Bernie, so it's

perfectly fine.

[beam me up scottie]

90. Didn't you get the memo? Genocide is freakin hilarious.

As long as it happened to someone else's family.

Bookmarking DSB's post for the next time someone claims Bernie supporters are the only ones out of control.

I'm sure they were aware of Sanders' family history, comparing his supporters to Nazis was a vile thing to do.

[merrily]

91. Look through the whole thread.

Granted, I made a sarcastic comment, but in response to the Nazi comment. It wasn't that I was posting about NYC or whoever alerted on NYC and decided to throw in a swipe against Hillary supporters or the Hillary Group.

Look through the whole thread and see how many unprovoked comments and innuendos have been made against Bernie supporters and the Bernie vs how many unprovoked comments and innuendos have been made against Hillary supporters and the Hillary Group. Also look at the level of ugliness in the comments.

[beam me up scottie]

93. I didn't even see your comment, merrily.

You were just reacting to DSB's "Clintonrein" post.

No worries about the sarcasm (have you met me?) I agree with everything you said.

[merrily]

95. I am not upset with you in the least.

However, as far as looking through the whole thread, I did not mean this thread at all.

[beam me up scottie]

96. Good.

I've seen the comments too, calling us "true believers", etc.

They don't accept that anyone could possibly have good reasons for not wanting to hand the keys to the White House over to their candidate.

It's much easier for some to dismiss our concerns about Hillary than to acknowledge that they're valid.

[merrily]

97. True believers is relatively mild.

[nadinbrzezinski]

67. Chuckle

Really. And I will leave it at that.

[Exilednight]

10. clintonomics at work.

[JaneyVee]

11. That's called courage.

[Mr. Robot]

37. Why get the fake thing, when people can get the real thing?!

Here's your choice:

Bigoted, anti-choice fascist OR Non-bigoted, pro-choice fascist (as someone mentioned on another post)

OR

Bigoted, anti-choice fascist OR non-bigoted, pro-choice progressive?

I think I'll choose the latter latter at this time - and that pro-choice progressive isn't Hillary Clinton. She is the latter of the former.

[geek tragedy]

45. No sane person considers Clinton to be a fascist.

Welcome to DU.

[Mr. Robot]

46. Not my words..

Look upthread....

[geek tragedy]

47. Those are your words. They appear in your post. nt

[snooper2]

73. Nice handle, somebody could have really used that someday

[hrmjustin]

64. When did you chose to go with senator Sanders?

[hifiguy]

12. Ha! The shortness of the leash she is on

Is all too apparent. When Wall Street says "be quiet" she will do so. Never gonna bite the hand that finances her. Never.

[pampango]

13. Normally it would be a good sign that Wall Street calls out a Democratic candidate. n/t

[Sheepshank]

15. Oh dear, second article in a week showing the 1%ers are pissed at Hillary

all that "in the back pocket of the 1%" talking point seems to get weaker with each new article posted.

[Buns_of_Fire]

16. Hey, Leon, get a job you damned worthless parasite! nt

[Unknown Beatle]

31. You're damned right.

What did he do to make all that money? Did he contribute anything to society to become filthy rich? Fuck no! He is definitely a damned worthless parasite!

[calimary]

17. Indeed, sir?

“I don’t need anybody crapping all over what I do for a living,” said Leon Cooper, a billionaire hedge fund manager.

Well, maybe that's just too damn bad. Because the rest of us DO need that!!! It's about damn TIME!!!!

Get used to it, pal. If you can cry your poor widdle self all the way to the bank, then shut the fuck up. That's part of the cost of doing business at your level, leon dear.

[SoapBox]

18. It looks like a Flip-Flop.

...can't have it both ways.

[Segami]

20. Can't wait for her response to Leon...

Maybe she'll text......." Hey Leon, I was just joshing....you know the play.....I was just kidding for maximum theater.....we're still good"

[NorthCarolina]

22. She's going to have to walk a very fine line indeed.

A tough row to hoe no doubt, how to not alienate herself from her base, and yet still appeal to middle class Americans who are majorly concerned about wealth inequality. If she can walk that tightrope without falling off, then color me amazed.

[cali]

23. Huh? ONE Hedge Fund Manager is not being called out by Wall Street.

Wall Street has faith in Hillary to do what's good for them.

[Jackpine Radical]

25. One spoiled widdwe bwat of a hedge fund manager

got all peevish because he didn't like being the butt of Hillary's deflection attempt, so he decides to publicly show hew what's what.

Wiser hedge fund managers keep their mouths shut & don't show their hands on the reins until they've got her safely into the White House.

[bvar22]

98. OR...

it was just some more Kabuki Theater to keep the peasants entertained,
and dispel the meme that Hillary is "too close" to Wall Street".

[Jackpine Radical]

99. I like your theory much better than mine.

You. Nailed. It.

[HassleCat]

27. I have a question

Why do some Wall Street people prefer Democrats? If they're all just evil bastards who bundle worthless derivatives and force your granny to buy them with her last pennies, then why do some hand with Rs and some with Ds?

[HooptieWagon]

32. They only prefer certain Democrats...

[GeorgeGist]

49. Because they can buy anything.

[bvar22]

100. Chuck Schumer, Charlie Rangel, and a host of others from New York

who are happy to take the cash and deliver the goods.

[PowerToThePeople]

33. Bernie Sanders is the real deal!

DUrec.

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. Hillary’s ‘Progressive’ Effort Backfires, because ...

a republican donor has a sad? Come on, DU!!

Has Buffett commented?

[randome]

55. Yeah, how is this a 'backfire' if she's pissing off the right people? I don't get it, either.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

[merrily]

57. Hillary's not pissing off Wall Street or making it sad.

[randome]

80. Well, she made a hedge fund manager sad. Surely you'd admit that's at least a start.

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[merrily]

81. Yeah. I am not sure she made this one guy sad, either.

[1StrongBlackMan]

58. LOL ...

how is this a 'backfire' if she's pissing off the right people and other right people, too?

HRC must start getting her message out there because I don't know where she stands ... then, this?

Well, perhaps, this wealthy hedge fund manager is more able to/better at discern(ing) her message/messages ... maybe that's why he's wealthy?

[JoePhilly]

69. Heads she loses, Tails, she also loses.

[1StrongBlackMan]

74. But more ...

pushing this BS puts us (Democrats, those on the Left and progressives) all, at risk.

As you have aptly noted ... criticize (with BS), insistently, from the Left, by the Left; criticize, insistently (with BS), from the right by the right = a completely disheartened electorate ... with I suspect was the goal from the start.

[BeyondGeography]

54. There they go again

These guys are the biggest babies on the planet. You can keep making your stupid living, just pay your fair share so the country doesn't go down the tubes.

Oh, wait a second, this is supposed to make Hillary look bad, right? That happens if she doesn't stand up to them. It should be easy.

[merrily]

56. Hillary does not worry Wall Street.

Hillary Clinton’s Wall Street backers: We get it

Populist rhetoric, many say, is good politics — but doesn’t portend an assault on the rich.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/hillary-clintons-wall-street-backers-we-get-it-117017.html#ixzz3c604PmzP

Hillary Clinton’s Goldman Sachs Problem
June 5, 2014
by David Corn

http://billmoyers.com/2014/06/05/hillary-clintons-goldman-sachs-problem/

[Oilwellian]

70. One republican hedge fund manager does not equal "Wall Street"

Most everyone knows the Clintons are Wall Street darlings and are no threat to the status quo.

[L0oniX]

77. So ...she is dumping all her close rich friends to become POTUS. How nice.

[fadedrose]

89. Not really

A private and very confidential phonecall to explain what and why income inequality must be corrected will fix everything...

We get the public version.

[chev52]

78. question

This hedge fund manager Cooper says he doesn't want people to crap on how he makes his living. What good purpose do hedge funds serve anyway?

[Thinkingabout]

101. Since Hillary was saying many popular Democrat issues befoe Warren came on the scene of even being

A Democrat, then the one to go left has been Warren. Hilary has advocated for women's rights for years, has fought for Civil Rights for years, has fought for children's rights for years, has sponsored minimum wage increases whole in Congress and was passed whole she was on Congress and now some thinks she is getting pulled to the left. Good move, I know where she has been. Yes she has been told by a hedge fund he isn't happy with her, it did not matter to Hillary and she goes on with her campaign. She is not afraid.