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[onecaliberal]

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[RKP5637]

1. It really is all about hatred, domination and authoritarianism. In fact, I think it's sadistic

behavior.

[daleanime]

26. +1

[procon]

2. I can't even image the kind of person who hates woman so much

that he would let them die -- preferably in horrible agony? -- over a legal medical procedure.

[onecaliberal]

3. Those kind of people are republicans.

So called family first, so called moral. Self described Christians. It seriously makes me physically ill. I despise them with the intensity of ten thousand white hot suns.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

17. ^^same here^^

sadistic, twisted, self-righteous......I'm speechless....

[RKP5637]

28. In their lingo, they are diabolical demons from hell. I am not religious, but

in my youth I was told the devil comes to one in many disguises. To me, Walker and his ilk fit that perfectly! Always pompous, pious, boasting of how moral they are, how christian, how right they are, all the rest of the bullshit, but in reality it is a facade for what they really are ... diabolical beings from hell.

[MadDAsHell]

11. Strangely there are a lot of women supporting this. nt

[SoapBox]

14. Really?

Details and numbers please.

[MadDAsHell]

15. Uh for starters how bout everyone out there named Duggar.

Have you really not seen all the neo-con "pro-life" women that harass visitors to abortion clinics?

[onecaliberal]

30. You'll forgive me if I don't count backwoods girls

Who were purposely kept out of society as "lots of women".

[Warren DeMontague]

22. Wisconsin Senate President Mary Lazich, for starts

Apparently she's one of the co-authors of this bill.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/03/wisconsin-abortion_n_7502558.html

[HooptieWagon]

55. I wonder if OP advocates doing that to a woman.

My guess is no.

[NaturalHigh]

24. National Right-to-Life President Carol Tobias.

http://www.nrlc.org/6-2/national-right-to-life-president-carol-tobias/

[daleanime]

27. Watch? Hell no.....

just sent me the audio.

[nichomachus]

35. The trouble is

he may just like it.

[onecaliberal]

40. Good Idea, he can give it to his wife to add to the ultrasounds pictures of his kids.

[KMOD]

5. Not only that, but he also i pushing for this,

The measure also contains a less-discussed provision that would allow the father to sue the doctor for "emotional and psychological distress" if he disagrees with the abortion, regardless of his relationship with the woman having the procedure.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/03/wisconsin-abortion_n_7502558.html

This guy just Todd Akin'd himself.

[freshwest]

6. And he's said to be the Koch favorite. I fear him as much as Cruz or Rand. n/t

[KMOD]

7. All three of them are a nightmare.

Thankfully, they're knocking themselves out of the running. Walker with this crap, Cruz with his totally inappropriate and disgusting Biden joke, and Rand, well, his own party doesn't even like him. I think everyone sees through Rand, he's the biggest clown aside from Donald Trump.

[onecaliberal]

8. I hope you are all right about them disqualifying themselves.

This makes me really angry. What makes them think they need to control us? The fact they even believe they have the right to, demonstrates a special kind of hate for women.

[KMOD]

10. Walker is done after this.

He probably even angered people in his own party.

He is way out of mainstream on this, and way out of line. The anger will be bi-partisan on this. Not only does he dismiss rape, and incest victims, he also dismisses the health and life of women, and then to boot, he thinks men should have a say in it.

He's toast. He's an assclown.

[freshwest]

13. Not with the wingnuts. They love this stuff... n/t

[Solly Mack]

9. You're nicer than I am.

[olddots]

12. after it comes out his mouth

It should be shoved up the rest of the repukian turd maggots who go along with this ancient hatred of women .I fucking hate these bastards so much .

[MadDAsHell]

16. Your language is very exclusionary.

Trans men face this same issue, yet you only mention "women."

[Ilsa]

20. Pregnancy? The need for an abortion and

sodomy as part of the legal process?

[MadDAsHell]

29. Yes. Are you actually ignorant of this fact or just prentending to be?

[Ilsa]

34. The OP is about forced ultrasounds for women seeking

Abortion. What is the link to which you are referring?

[AngryDem001]

18. I FUCKING HATE REPUBLICANS!!

AND I FUCKING LOATHE, DESPISE, DETEST, ABHOR AND HATE SCOTT WALKER with all the fire and venom I can muster. This smarmy little cretin is an ENEMY to women everywhere.

Go to hell, you miserable sub-human scum.

[KMOD]

19. Woot!

[onecaliberal]

41. ^^^^THAT^^^^

[lovemydog]

21. These jerks are living in the dark ages.

[dembotoz]

23. Will the state party take him on over this??? No

Dem pansy ass wuses

[Vinca]

25. How about the part of the bill that allows a man to sue the doctor for damages?

A rapist can impregnate a woman and if she can get an abortion the rapist can sue the doctor. I will never understand how anyone can vote for a person like Walker for anything.

[onecaliberal]

31. I agree. Don't see how any women support him.

[Agschmid]

42. This post seems out of line, please consider a self delete.

[Scuba]

58. You are correct. Thank you.

[Agschmid]

59. Thanks.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. You welcome. Will self delete

[CrispyQ]

36. Another thread posts an article that states the bill also includes language

to allow the father to sue the doctor for emotional distress, regardless of the man's relationship to the woman. They are going to go after our right to vote, eventually.

[onecaliberal]

37. I think the same thing.

[awoke_in_2003]

38. Here is an ultrasound of his head

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[KMOD]

39. lol

empty, just like I thought.

[Lizzie Poppet]

56. Gold clap!

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. You know, rape jokes are offensive

but I will not alert since I do not believe the system works.

So you get to Skate, but I get to call you on it.

[JI7]

45. it's not a joke, it's an angry reaction to what Walker wants to do to women

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. You want to discuss policy

fine by me. But anal rape jokes are just plain offensive.

As I said, I don't alert. I tell people.

[JI7]

47. as i said, it's not a joke , it's anger at walker over what he wants to do to women

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. I do not care how angry you are

that is an anal rape joke

Not that I expect the system to work. After all, the object of the imaginary rape is a republican

And as a woman, who has treated men and women who were victims of rape I know it is not funny.

[JI7]

49. it's about applying walker's policy position to himself.

[FrodosPet]

50. He wants to push the probe up through women's mouth?

As effed up as the mandatory ultrasound procedure may be, I am doubting that there is a goal of committing murder, which the O.P. is doing.

http://www.webmd.com/balance/stress-management/features/how-anger-hurts-your-heart

How Anger Hurts Your Heart

Yellers, ragers, and door slammers beware -- frequent high levels of anger have now been linked to heart disease.
By Katherine Kam - WebMD Magazine
Feature Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

If you knew that frequent anger might raise your risk of heart disease significantly, would you continue to blow off steam by yelling and smashing things during an argument or getting furious if the office email crashes during a rushed, stressful day?

It's time for hot heads to take heed: Increasingly, the negative, irritable, raging, and intimidating personality type worries heart researchers and doctors alike. "You're talking about people who seem to experience high levels of anger very frequently," says Laura Kubzansky, PhD, MPH, an associate professor at the Harvard School of Public Health in Cambridge, Mass., who has studied the role of stress and emotions on cardiovascular disease.

~ snip ~

So how exactly does anger contribute to heart disease? Scientists don't know for sure, but anger might produce direct physiological effects on the heart and arteries. Emotions such as anger and hostility quickly activate the "fight or flight response," in which stress hormones, including adrenaline and cortisol, speed up your heart rate and breathing and give you a burst of energy. Blood pressure also rises as your blood vessels constrict.

While this stress response mobilizes you for emergencies, it might cause harm if activated repeatedly. "You get high cortisol and high adrenaline levels and that is the cardiotoxic effect of anger expression," says Jerry Kiffer, MA, a heart-brain researcher at the Cleveland Clinic's Psychological Testing Center. "It causes wear and tear on the heart and cardiovascular system." Frequent anger may speed up the process of atherosclerosis, in which fatty plaques build up in arteries, Kiffer says. The heart pumps harder, blood vessels constrict, blood pressure surges, and there are higher levels of glucose in the blood and more fat globules in the blood vessels. All this, scientists believe, can cause damage to artery walls.

~ snip ~

[JI7]

51. the OP is not actually supporting a law which would do such a thing

the OP is a response made in anger over what was done

[FrodosPet]

54. Anger kills every day

I don't believe the O.P. would do this if given the chance. But the crudeness, the violence, is just disgusting and frightening.

So who else is it OK to murder over their political opinions?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

57. "anal rape jokes are just plain offensive."

Doesn't work for Walker anyway.

He's 100% asshole.

[tularetom]

52. How about if we shove Walker up his own ass until he disappears

[madamesilverspurs]

53. ...