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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:32 PM Jun 2015

Clinton calling for universal, automatic, voter registration....

(voting rights speech at TSU)

...with automated records so your registration moves with you.

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Clinton calling for universal, automatic, voter registration.... (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2015 OP
touts Oregon OKNancy Jun 2015 #1
Well... kenfrequed Jun 2015 #2
Agreed Sherman A1 Jun 2015 #16
Indeed... ut oh Jun 2015 #37
ABSOLUTELY - along with the expanding of SS Cosmocat Jun 2015 #44
...starting 15 years ago, but I'll take it. tblue Jun 2015 #79
Could an election be contested on the basis that some voters were prevented from voting. olegramps Jun 2015 #106
I'm all for it. nt peecoolyour Jun 2015 #3
I hope she got lots of applause for that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #4
It's almost like something a sane, rational country would be doing already arcane1 Jun 2015 #5
+300,000,000 Americans! We're on the finish line. Gotta flip the USSC, too. freshwest Jun 2015 #29
Great Post! jalan48 Jun 2015 #90
a lot of what she's saying is spot on. cali Jun 2015 #6
Good. Even though we don't register by party in my state. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #7
I think the term she used was "register to vote" Sheepshank Jun 2015 #75
I am watching this speech on line Gothmog Jun 2015 #8
I highly support that idea. herding cats Jun 2015 #9
ALL of you MUST demand we have the right to vote, but in Texas, NC and elsewhere randys1 Jun 2015 #10
Thanks, randys1 freshwest Jun 2015 #30
And thats the way the GOP wants it. Iliyah Jun 2015 #41
Excellent! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #11
her focus on voting rights is very smart. mopinko Jun 2015 #12
Yes, now! lovemydog Jun 2015 #14
Voting rights and GOP voter suppression will be an issue in 2016 Gothmog Jun 2015 #28
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #32
Damn straight. Hekate Jun 2015 #54
Expanding opportunities lovemydog Jun 2015 #13
Good to hear! I also would like to see Election Day as a holiday. n/t Avalux Jun 2015 #15
Yeah me too Avalux. lovemydog Jun 2015 #19
Sounds perfect for presidential election days. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #31
I work for a state agency in PA, DirtyHippyBastard Jun 2015 #78
Bumpa de bump lovemydog Jun 2015 #17
Good idea. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #18
We should have been doing that a long time ago! Rex Jun 2015 #20
This is excellent mcar Jun 2015 #21
Yes!!! SunSeeker Jun 2015 #22
Wow! This is what I've been saying for years. Isn't it way in most of the Anglosphere? TIA. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #23
I LOVE Oregon's vote-by-mail program. Qutzupalotl Jun 2015 #24
And while the ballots Punx Jun 2015 #55
It's a very great idea and timely message. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #25
These are fantastic proposals. I fully support this. morningfog Jun 2015 #26
The more people that vote, the more Dems win elections. NightWatcher Jun 2015 #27
K&R..... daleanime Jun 2015 #33
superb! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #34
Also calling for a national standard requiring every state lovemydog Jun 2015 #35
kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2015 #36
While it is a good idea, Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #38
We'll never know unless we try, will we? So GOTV and send a Dem Congress to Washington... Hekate Jun 2015 #56
nice! C Moon Jun 2015 #39
'Rec a Roni lovemydog Jun 2015 #40
That's a rather drastic proposal DFW Jun 2015 #42
If it was me I would make voting truly universal. 47of74 Jun 2015 #43
Would you make voting mandatory rurallib Jun 2015 #45
I don't know about mandatory. 47of74 Jun 2015 #49
In Vermont, people can vote even if they're incarcerated. Eric J in MN Jun 2015 #84
Totally agree 47of74 Jun 2015 #97
Never Going To Happen Before The 2016 General Election cantbeserious Jun 2015 #46
Your right..... Pauldg47 Jun 2015 #70
Talking the talk. Pauldg47 Jun 2015 #71
It's a great idea, but ... surrealAmerican Jun 2015 #47
K&R giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #48
how can that be 'automatic' iamthebandfanman Jun 2015 #50
Easy. Don't require an affiliation upon registration. okasha Jun 2015 #74
Yes indeed! shenmue Jun 2015 #51
And this will happen how? glinda Jun 2015 #52
That's a great idea. The RW has manipulated the current systems into a new Jim Crow... Hekate Jun 2015 #53
My only qualifier. Half-Century Man Jun 2015 #57
undergoing prosecution =/= guilty fizzgig Jun 2015 #85
Just to clarify, I do not mean persons serving punitive sentences. Half-Century Man Jun 2015 #92
Even those undergoing prosecution Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #88
and she's right. we need to counter what the thugs are doing to voter's rights... spanone Jun 2015 #58
I can agree with that. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #59
Definitely support this! K&R nt TBF Jun 2015 #60
Nicely done, candidate Clinton! MineralMan Jun 2015 #61
Excellent.. DCBob Jun 2015 #62
That's the dead-on best proposal so far this campaign. ucrdem Jun 2015 #63
Absolutely! TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #64
The fact that HRC is building on the example of Oregon is a great idea Gothmog Jun 2015 #65
I agree nt LiberalElite Jun 2015 #66
SOME states have already taken significant steps in the direction of universal voting. elleng Jun 2015 #67
Very good speech and a great issue. jwirr Jun 2015 #68
K&R Scuba Jun 2015 #69
Amen MFrohike Jun 2015 #72
Yes, and their rights under the Constitution. lovemydog Jun 2015 #73
It would help Democrats for many years to come Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #76
I supported that when I heard about Oregon. napi21 Jun 2015 #77
you can manage your voter registration online in colorado fizzgig Jun 2015 #86
Under the Oregon law (which only registers those with Driver's Licenses) you are sent a postcard PoliticAverse Jun 2015 #103
Good. So, why hasn't President Obama dealt with this already? nt Zorra Jun 2015 #80
And how bout a paper trail for votes? grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #81
In my experience as an expat, the US right now BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #82
Terrific stuff. Orsino Jun 2015 #83
there is a lot of work that needs done in reforming voting rights fizzgig Jun 2015 #87
And the Republicans whining Punx Jun 2015 #89
Even Las Vegas casino workers? n/t ieoeja Jun 2015 #91
Love my Party! Gamecock Lefty Jun 2015 #93
Can we get rid of those damn vote-flipping machines, too? valerief Jun 2015 #94
repugs don't want this - i don't think they'll win any more elections samsingh Jun 2015 #95
K&R nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #96
K&R. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #98
and a national voting day holiday azureblue Jun 2015 #99
Who is going to push for that to be enacted before 2016? Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #100
There's not going to be automatic voter registration in the US of everyone that turns 18. PoliticAverse Jun 2015 #101
Sounds like a great idea Fumesucker Jun 2015 #102
I'm supporting Bernie, but give Hillary huge kudos for making this an issue 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #104
Now if she'd follow with universal health care, universal education, and so on... Fearless Jun 2015 #105
I detect Howard Dean's subtle hand in this DFW Jun 2015 #107
Big deal chev52 Jun 2015 #108
Here in Florida, it is easy to register to vote. The real, actual problem is being ABLE to vote. djean111 Jun 2015 #109

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
1. touts Oregon
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:33 PM
Jun 2015

Will be hard, but people need to be activist about this topic

More like Moral Monday in North Carolina

Then - need the Supreme Court

!!! THe court needs to care more about the right of the individual than the right of a corporation to buy an election !!

Cosmocat

(15,466 posts)
44. ABSOLUTELY - along with the expanding of SS
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jun 2015

Lots of good stuff bring put out by these two ...

This party needs to get in the game.

Set a simple agenda of top line items like these and every D out there should be championing them like the crazy ass shit the Rs champion.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
79. ...starting 15 years ago, but I'll take it.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:28 AM
Jun 2015

I think this kinda seals it for her. It is music to so many ears, and it will ignite many Obama supporters who haven't quite warned to her. My heart is with Bernie (and I know he agrees with her on this issue) but I enthusiastically embrace Hillary for taking this on. It's about damn time some Democrat did it!

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
106. Could an election be contested on the basis that some voters were prevented from voting.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jun 2015

I have no idea what the law would be but it does seem to have some merit. When I think that our nation was founded in part by the revolt against taxation without representation it greatly disturbs me that so many of our citizens right to vote is being trampled on by Republican thugs. It seems to me that this is the same principle that is being ignored by hateful fascist bastards. There is absolutely no justifiable reason that young people, poor and minorities are being discriminated against. I sadly say it but I have grown to actually despise these jackbooted thugs. When the hell are the people going to say enough is enough and demand change? Its a wonder that riots haven't broken out. Seems like the Colonists had more balls than the present crop of citizens.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. I hope she got lots of applause for that.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:34 PM
Jun 2015

I also laud her for her call for 20 days of early voting as a standard across the nation.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. Good. Even though we don't register by party in my state.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:36 PM
Jun 2015

We're all de facto Independents in Washington, whatever our leanings.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
75. I think the term she used was "register to vote"
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:22 AM
Jun 2015

Not necessarily register for a party...although the way that is worded, if the state requires a party registration, that too is included. Just my take on the language used

herding cats

(20,056 posts)
9. I highly support that idea.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:37 PM
Jun 2015

We need to get more people to the polls if we're ever going to make our government resemble the majority of the population.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
10. ALL of you MUST demand we have the right to vote, but in Texas, NC and elsewhere
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:37 PM
Jun 2015

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS

maybe

MILLIONS

are currently unable to vote

Follow my twitter account below and report obstruction

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
41. And thats the way the GOP wants it.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jun 2015

So being aggressive of progressive ideals is beautiful but in the USA votes count which allows politicians to get into office (well that is how it suppose to work), therefore, nothing progressive will be achieve if the USA gets all one party members in, especially the US Supreme Court and WH.

Think Hobby Lobby running the country.

mopinko

(73,909 posts)
12. her focus on voting rights is very smart.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:54 PM
Jun 2015

and doing it early and often is a winner. we need to address this stuff NOW. not at the last minute and not after voting is over.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
13. Expanding opportunities
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jun 2015

for millions of people to exercise their right to vote. I absolutely support this. How can we help make this happen?

I watched some of the speech in the live stream provided here - thank you. If the entire speech can be posted here it would be much appreciated.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
19. Yeah me too Avalux.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:10 PM
Jun 2015

We can easily move one of the holidays too. For example, make Presidents day voting day.

DirtyHippyBastard

(217 posts)
78. I work for a state agency in PA,
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:00 AM
Jun 2015

and all election days are paid holidays. If you work on that day (most do) you get time and a half.
Yes, we are union. Teamsters.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
23. Wow! This is what I've been saying for years. Isn't it way in most of the Anglosphere? TIA. n/t
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jun 2015

Qutzupalotl

(15,854 posts)
24. I LOVE Oregon's vote-by-mail program.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:15 PM
Jun 2015

It leads to more informed voters making more rational, considered decisions. You can sit on your sofa with the voter's guide and fill out your ballot in comfort -- no feeling of being rushed to move the line.

Turnout is among the highest in the nation, usually near 80% in presidential elections.

The stamp is not a poll tax, since you can also drop off your ballot at area drop boxes.

As with any paper ballot, there is a chance of spoilage due to weather or other disaster. Problems are VERY rare and not widespread.

Good on Hillary Clinton!

Punx

(475 posts)
55. And while the ballots
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:19 PM
Jun 2015

Are still counted by machine, there is paper document to back it up, as well as an envelope with the voter's signature on it. An audit or recount can be done fairly easy, and fraud or miscounting would be easy to prove here. My local state rep here (Democrat) won by only a handful of votes. Thanks Unions for your efforts!

In fact the state GMO labeling inititive (Measure 92) was recounted and while it went narrowly down to defeat, it was recounted and lost by 812 votes with ~1.5 million cast. The shift in votes against based on the recount was 25. Try that with electronic voting!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
25. It's a very great idea and timely message.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

The easier it is to vote, the more people vote regularly.

NightWatcher

(39,382 posts)
27. The more people that vote, the more Dems win elections.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jun 2015


Paul M. Weyrich (October 7, 1942 – December 18, 2008)

Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote. He complains that fellow Christians have "Goo-Goo Syndrome": Good Government. Classic clip from 1980. This guy still gives weekly strategy sessions to Republicans nowadays. The entire dialog from the clip:

"Now many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome — good government. They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."

-quoted from http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021309809

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
35. Also calling for a national standard requiring every state
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jun 2015

offer 20 days of early voting, and keep polling places open weekends and evenings.

Let's get this through Congress. It's vital to our democracy.

WASHINGTON -- Hillary Clinton in a speech on Thursday called for universal, automatic voter registration, saying every citizen in the country should be automatically registered to vote when they turn 18, unless they opt-out. Clinton spoke at Texas Southern University in Houston, where she was receiving the Barbara Jordan Public-Private Leadership Award. She also said Republican-led efforts in several states to further regulate voting and voter registration disproportionately harm both underrepresented communities and young people, adding that Republicans need to "stop fear mongering" about the "phantom epidemic" of voter fraud.

Clinton also called for a national standard that would require every state in the country to offer at least 20 days of early in-person voting, including keeping polling stations open on weekends and evenings. During her speech, Clinton also called on Congress to pass legislation to give the federal government power to review changes to state voting laws before they go into effect. A Supreme Court decision in 2013 struck down a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act that required certain states to have their voting changes pre-cleared by the Justice Department or by a panel of federal judges before they were implemented.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/hillary-clinton-voting-rights_n_7513858.html



Hekate

(100,133 posts)
56. We'll never know unless we try, will we? So GOTV and send a Dem Congress to Washington...
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:21 PM
Jun 2015

.....to support our New Democratic POTUS.

DFW

(60,424 posts)
42. That's a rather drastic proposal
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jun 2015

And it's about time, too!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, it would also be like an injection of cyanide for the Republicans, so it has about as much chance of becoming law as a law requiring free pizza for all on Friday nights.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
43. If it was me I would make voting truly universal.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:11 PM
Jun 2015

There would be only two requirements if it was up to me.

The person be a citizen of the United States who has reached 18 years of age. No other restrictions whatsoever. Even people currently incarcerated would have the right if it was up to me since it seems to be that our prison industrial state has a vested interest in disenfranchising as many people as possible.

And attempting to keep people from voting would be punishable by 25 to life in my system and trillion dollar fines.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
49. I don't know about mandatory.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:02 PM
Jun 2015

Just make it truly a right of all Americans to vote.

Eric J in MN

(35,639 posts)
84. In Vermont, people can vote even if they're incarcerated.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jun 2015

All 50 states should have that.

Voting is pro-social behavior which should be encouraged.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
97. Totally agree
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jun 2015

The kind of candidates the incarcerated would support couldn't possibly be any worse than what we have now. And we might get more responsible candidates who have to answer even to prisoners for their actions, who wouldn't be as likely to pass poorly thought out legislation just because it makes them look all big and tough.

(Side benefit: Sheriff Joe would hate it).

Pauldg47

(644 posts)
70. Your right.....
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 11:29 PM
Jun 2015

.....it's her bs.....she has hope the other BS (Bernie Sanders) has credibility.

surrealAmerican

(11,925 posts)
47. It's a great idea, but ...
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jun 2015

... the Republicans will never agree to it. In fact, we can count on them to do everything in their power to prevent this.

The survival of their party depends on keeping people from voting.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
50. how can that be 'automatic'
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:03 PM
Jun 2015

when someone has to pick an affiliation ?

need to be working on more poll places, longer hours, and election day made a national holiday for all non-emergency services..

okasha

(11,573 posts)
74. Easy. Don't require an affiliation upon registration.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:16 AM
Jun 2015

In Texas, your voter ID gets stamped "Democrat" or "Republican" when you vote in that party's primary.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
53. That's a great idea. The RW has manipulated the current systems into a new Jim Crow...
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jun 2015

...and it has to stop.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
57. My only qualifier.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jun 2015

Every citizen, not currently undergoing prosecution, should automatically be registered to vote.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
92. Just to clarify, I do not mean persons serving punitive sentences.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:34 AM
Jun 2015

Merely the people currently subject to immediate threat by elected officials (ie, city/state prosecutors). I see this as a safeguard against mass arrests near election times. Alternative suggestions are welcome.

Just because a citizen has made a one time mistake, made an ever escalating series of poor choices, or been driven by desperation to go beyond allowable boundaries, should not be enough to exclude them from a voice in society. The only reason laws stripping a citizen from the right to vote exist are to systematically strip a targeted group from equal representation. As has been and currently being done to African Americans, particularly the men.

To a lesser extent the fact a citizen has to actively individually seek out and register to exercise their Constitutionally granted right to express themselves through a vote, is a form of voter suppression. An automatic registry at 18 is a good idea.
As is an Election Holiday, early voting, voting by mail, and using exclusively paper hand counted ballots.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
88. Even those undergoing prosecution
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:57 AM
Jun 2015

Disenfranchisement because of arrests and convictions is part of the problem.

spanone

(142,047 posts)
58. and she's right. we need to counter what the thugs are doing to voter's rights...
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jun 2015

it's criminal

Gothmog

(181,929 posts)
65. The fact that HRC is building on the example of Oregon is a great idea
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jun 2015

Automatic registration is a great idea

elleng

(141,926 posts)
67. SOME states have already taken significant steps in the direction of universal voting.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jun 2015

Martin O'Malley did THIS:

Expanded Voting Rights
While other states around the nation push stricter voter ID laws designed to limit people’s ability to exercise the right to vote, Governor O’Malley made it easier to vote in Maryland by expanding early voting and same-day voter registration.


This isn't just talk, he already did it in Maryland. He instituted early voting, established online voter registration & same-day registration for early voters.


It's WELL PAST time the Democratic Party take this matter upon itself, and promote it for EVERY state. Repugs have done THEIR thing for years.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
72. Amen
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 11:42 PM
Jun 2015

The likely response is some drivel about states' rights. That tees up a nice reply, "why is it everytime somebody says states' rights, it's about infringing a human being's rights?"

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
73. Yes, and their rights under the Constitution.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:04 AM
Jun 2015

Specifically Article VI & Amendments 14, 15, 19, 23, 24 & 26 and legislation like the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Why do we have such disproportionate representation? Largely because states and municipalities keep restricting voting opportunities. That must end.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
77. I supported that when I heard about Oregon.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:58 AM
Jun 2015

The way their new Governor explained it, your State already has your birth certificate, DL, and all your other info (addy, phone, SS#, etc). Why not make use of that info and issue a voter registration instead of making you reenter the SAME INFO again! The only prob I see is having to get the individual voter pick a Party to register in. That could easily be fixed by enclosing a post card with the notice of registration that the voter would return with their choice.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
86. you can manage your voter registration online in colorado
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jun 2015

you can register, change your address and change your affiliation online. that's an easy way around that.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
103. Under the Oregon law (which only registers those with Driver's Licenses) you are sent a postcard
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:58 PM
Jun 2015

with information on how to opt-out of registration and how to select a political party with their registration.

Those that don't select a party are registered as unaffiliated.

BlueMTexpat

(15,699 posts)
82. In my experience as an expat, the US right now
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 05:58 AM
Jun 2015

has become the paradigm for talking the talk but not actually walking the walk insofar as democracy goes. To some, we are nothing but hypocrites; to others, we have truly become a police state. Others are more generous, but very worried about our increasing partisanship and division.

This is a far cry from the nation where I was born and raised and that I have been proud to serve.

With all the restrictions that some states have put on voting, we do NOT look good, especially when such restrictions specifically target the most vulnerable among us - who are supposed to have MORE protections in a true democracy. Further, Citizens' United & McCutcheon are hardly decisions that promote democracy. They also make our supposedly independent judiciary look like a corporate tool.

Anything that helps to resolve or improve voting rights for all eligible individual persons is absolutely needed.

Good for Hillary for putting the issue out there!

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
87. there is a lot of work that needs done in reforming voting rights
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:51 AM
Jun 2015

and that's a step in the right direction.

i am fortunate that my state (colorado) makes it wonderfully easy to vote. all registered voters receive a mail-in ballot that can be dropped off at any number of places, extended early voting, same-day registration and an expanded list of of acceptable identification.

mailing all voters a ballot is a new thing and i can't remember if it was in place in 2012 or not, but we generally have a presidential election turnout of close to 70 percent. i'm interested in seeing what turnout looks like next year.

Punx

(475 posts)
89. And the Republicans whining
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:57 AM
Jun 2015

About her being divisive. Really?

One thing I'm liking right now is that I don't think Hillary or Bernie is going to take any crap from the Rethugs.

Gamecock Lefty

(708 posts)
93. Love my Party!
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:20 AM
Jun 2015

I must say I love what I’m hearing out of all our Dems. I’ll say it – our party rocks!

Now let’s get a liberal Congress and a liberal Supreme Court and I can be happy!

Go Hillary, Go Bernie!

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
101. There's not going to be automatic voter registration in the US of everyone that turns 18.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jun 2015

Unlike in some countries, Federal, state and local governments in the US don't maintain a database of all residents and
their age and location.

This is the reason the Selective Service law requires 18 year old males to register instead of registering them automatically.

Note that countries which have 'automatic registration' either have national ID cards for all residents or laws requiring
residents to register with local authorities.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
104. I'm supporting Bernie, but give Hillary huge kudos for making this an issue
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jun 2015

in the 2016 campaign. This is an issue that has gone largely ignored by the
media and by Democrats in general.

Thank you Hillary Clinton!

DFW

(60,424 posts)
107. I detect Howard Dean's subtle hand in this
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jun 2015

He has been quietly advocating voter rights for a LOOOOOOOOONG time, and now that he has Hillary's ear, I think he has convinced her that it is a can't-lose issue for any Democrat, and one Republicans can only oppose publicly by showing their hand as being against the right of every citizen to vote. If every citizen is automatically registered, and in a national data base, the right can't whine about needing to disenfranchise citizens from their voting rights to protect against voter fraud--something that was a fake issue to begin with.

This is an issue every Democratic candidate will gladly get behind. Hillary can bask for a few days, but the second Sanders and O'Malley are asked for their views, their answers will be "well DUH!" whereas Republicans, whose prospects for winning close elections will drop by half or more if such a policy becomes law, will all oppose it without saying why. Oh, they'll put forth reasons, of course, but they won't be very coherent. CNN (Conservative New Network) would probably go something like this:



Interviewer: "You're in the Degradation Room.

"Senator/Madam Secretary/Governor, you have come out in favor of universal voter registration for all American citizens. Why, and why now?"

Sanders/Clinton/O'Malley: "Too many Americans have been--and are still being denied--their right to vote, with the justification being anything other than the real reason: because they might vote Democratic. Sure, this proposal will benefit Democrats, but the only reason this is so is because the only ones trying to deny certain citizens their right to vote have been Republicans. If their policies are so wonderful, let them win elections with legitimate majorities of the voters. If not, they should improve their policies until the voters like them better than ours. But don't hide behind disallowing people to vote and then saying the people have spoken in your favor while you are forbidding some of them from speaking at all."

Interviewer: "OK, (generic Republican oaf), you have heard the Democratic argument for universal voter registration. Why do you oppose it?"

Generic Republican oaf: "Well, Wolf, it's obvious that this is not an attempt to get more Americans to vote, but really a rgtsxtl grbssch against the Republican Party, and this is borne out by the fact that a Fox poll showed that 127% of Americans przeszablxk sjrblax glrbbung, and libbruls are just ignoring it."

Interviewer: "Well, you certainly do have a valid point there, no question about it. We're out of time, so we'll have to leave it at that............"

 

chev52

(71 posts)
108. Big deal
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:42 AM
Jun 2015

This voting issue is an easy one for her. It won't cost her any campaign contributors and it probably won't pass anyway. I'm waiting for her to come out against Transpacific Partnership.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
109. Here in Florida, it is easy to register to vote. The real, actual problem is being ABLE to vote.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:42 AM
Jun 2015

Voter suppression is the problem. The GOP does not care how many people are registered. They throw registered voters off the rolls almost at will, and challenge voters at the polls. Everybody being registered sounds awesome, and is actually not all that difficult. What needs to be addressed is students trying to vote and being told they have to go home, the quite onerous ID requirements when reporting to vote, things like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

Voter suppression in the United States includes various techniques, legal and non-legal, used to deny eligible voters the right to vote. Voter suppression varies by state, local government, precinct, and election.


This is real feel-good and all, but, like others have asked, what is Hillary's stance on the TPP?
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