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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf we can't afford SS for the elderly, healthcare for all or a living wage for American workers...
... just what is the defense budget defending?
madokie
(51,076 posts)Is all I can think of
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)Countries who spend outrageous amounts on the military and deprive their own citizens? Hmmm, NOrth Korea comes to mind.
Keep saying, "It's MILITARY spending" that we're talking about.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)and, as the Roman citizens and other such cultures discovered, it wasn't in the best interests of the common folk at all.
madokie
(51,076 posts)and you're right
Peace
airplaneman
(1,239 posts)But they also want the biggest military industrial complex on the planet.
I think they both want to enrich their industrial complex friends and ultimately the same "Friends" will stop the 99% by force when we finally rise up and revolt.
-Airplane
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)when military is used, and we all know where that can land us.
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)how can we call ourselves the 'Greatest Nation on Earth' either?
It's sad, but our 'defense budget' is really more about increasing the wealth of the wealthy.
And too much of our economy is centered around and supported by the military industrial complex imo.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Or some such line of nonsense . . .
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)but we are lucky it doesn't cost much, because "we couldn't afford it" if it did.
polmaven
(9,463 posts)You dint think that SSI getters, sick peeples and them who gotta work for a livin' are really Muricans, didja?/??
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)T-shirts, key chains, All Democratic Political ads...
raccoon
(31,110 posts)clydefrand
(4,325 posts)What else? Get rid of the poor, sick, and those who can't earn a living so the rich can have everything that they don't already have.
bupkus
(1,981 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Then write it off as a business expense. Same for the lobbying. Sigh.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Which is suppurting the military which is funded by the defense budget.
In that exchange, it is all about the 1% getting wealthier.
We are here just to server their needs and fight their wars.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)malaise
(268,913 posts)National interest means the interests of the 1%.
So the children of the working class and peasantry are sent to die for those who would willingly starve them and deny them basic social, economic and political rights.
Thankfully people are waking up as they alway do as technology provides access to more information.
You win the kewpie doll, malaise.
malaise
(268,913 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)That would instantly bankrupt the military.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)That's it. That's the ultimate American value, the last one standing. Profit. Monetary gain.
fruitsmoothie45
(22 posts)Because as everybody knows, that would turn us into a communist tyranny! Like Canada!
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)It makes so much sense. Thanks for sharing it.
Initech
(100,062 posts)We're following the textbook definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results - if we'd kick the war contractors and oil billionaires to the curb and start holding them accountable for their crimes instead of rewarding them we might make some progress.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)MindMover
(5,016 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)They sure as hell aren't for us.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)butterfly77
(17,609 posts)the so called liberal media to ask these politicians this for years.
Its our money but we can't use it for ourselves but we can help everyone else.
They claim to be concerned for citizens but don't give a damn about people living in the streets.
Unfortunately it needs to be pointed out to our govt. that the more of us that are allowed to die due to lack of health care, the fewer tax dollars they'll rake in for their wars of choice. Nevermind the morality.
jp11
(2,104 posts)And of course the fear that if we don't spend enough money on defense we will be defenseless.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Short and too the point...
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)In my opinion we could cut the military budget by 50% and not impact our ability to defend the "homeland" at all. We spend more than the rest of the world combined on our so-called defense.
Unfortunately this cut would impact our ability to invade other countries and protect the interests of the 1% (be it oil or other natural resources).
But if push came to shove with 50% of our current military spending we could defend our borders against invasion. We have to keep an eye on Russia and China and of course be engaged in protecting our interests against terrorism. But we could still do that with 50% of our current budget.
Who would that impact? Well of course they would start not by cutting wasteful weapons programs that enrich their political contributors. They would start by cutting the number of soldiers, aviators, sailors and marines. They would go after their pay and their benefits. They would do everything but sacrifice a weapons program that enrich their overlords.
As Eisenhower warned us, the military-industrial complex will doom us to oblivion.
the_chinuk
(332 posts)shcrane71
(1,721 posts)Bozita
(26,955 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)well, except for maybe Current TV (I do believe Cenk has touched on this a few times).
harun
(11,348 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)unkachuck
(6,295 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)continue making outdated weaponry
TBF
(32,047 posts)lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)It means they are going to pay for their misdeeds on the backs of the elderly, school children and the working poor.