Catholic church is digging a deeper hole for itself with natural family planning

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The catholic church is starting up NFP centers called Gianna centers which practice the Creighton model of family planning. Problem is that there are no peer reviewed studies of the Creighton model on PubMed.

My concern is that a lot of state funds for family planning are getting shunted to abstinence only clinics. They offer free ultrasounds and then work on the women to carry their child to term no matter what. I think the church is teeing up these places to receive government money.

Planned parenthood can't compete with free ultrasounds and are not reciving the contracts on the state level.

[Angry Dragon]

1. Every person in charge in the catholic church

is forbidden to have sex nor think of it.

How can they even know what the average person is going through when it comes to sexual issues??

[atreides1]

2. As long as "good" Catholics keep supporting it...

...the Catholic church as it is, will continue to survive...no matter what it does!

[SharonAnn]

3. What is the "Creighton model"?

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4. Here it is

Current approaches to the management of fertility require that spontaneous intercourse be protected at all costs. In NaProTECHNOLOGY and with the CrMS, the principle of “selective intercourse” is introduced. This principle is one that applies uniquely to a natural means to regulate fertility and, specifically, to the CrMS. While many natural systems over the years have relied on the concept of “periodic abstinence” to describe what is involved in the implementation of these systems, “periodic abstinence” is not at all specific to their use. Those who use contraceptives also practice periodic abstinence, since they do abstain from genital intercourse between one sexual contact and the next. So, the idea of “periodic abstinence” is not a concept that applies exclusively to a natural means to regulate fertility.

The decision to either have or not have intercourse is dependent upon actual choices one makes to either achieve or avoid pregnancy. The use of the term “selective” specifically implies the decision-making choices that couples implement while activating the fullness of the system. In their decision making, they are selecting, in a responsible way, the very best time to have intercourse. Perhaps even more importantly, they are mutually selecting that time. Thus, spontaneous intercourse involves the submission to emotional impulses while selective intercourse submits itself to choices evaluated and implemented through the incorporation of the intellect, the will and the values that the couple shares. The sharing that is involved in the implementation of any natural system, including the Creighton Model is also different from contraceptive approaches. These systems do not work unless the couple cooperates with each other. Technological systems are built upon the notion that such cooperation does not or may not exist. In this latter approach, the a priori premise precludes the development of cooperation in this important aspect of the married couple’s life. The preclusion can lead to stress, tension, resentment and, eventually, destruction of the relationship.

From www.creightonmodel.com

[SharonAnn]

7. Thank you. Why the name "Creighton Model"? I didn't find the reason for that.

The reason I'm curious is that I attended Creighton University (a Jesuit university in Omaha, Nebraska) for a couple of years, a long time ago.

I've been very disturbed by their drift to the right over the last decades and what seems to be an embrace of right-wing, authoritarian thinking.

I've already told them not contact me for money because they won't be getting any. I won't support any organization that supports programs that disenfranchise women and tries to tell them what decisions to make, or supports religious institutions that won't permit women in leadership positions.

[crazylikafox]

8. Ouch. That made my head hurt just reading it. Sorry honey, not tonight, I have a headache......

[Liberal_in_LA]

5. +1000

[Dawson Leery]

6. Not one cent of taxpayer dollars should ever go to religious institutions.

[hifiguy]

9. They obviously have never read Molly Ivins' First Rule

of Holes: When you find yourself in one, quit digging.