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Fuck horse racing, fuck dog shows, and fuck rodeos. (Original Post) NuclearDem Jun 2015 OP
What about pig racing at the county fair? brooklynite Jun 2015 #1
you do know that pigs do not enjoy that greased pig thing, right? hollysmom Jun 2015 #3
That's not a pig race brooklynite Jun 2015 #7
Have you asked one? nt clarice Jun 2015 #19
Yeah, and what about weiner dog racing? Archae Jun 2015 #5
Gambling is a bad habit. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #2
Inevitable joke is inevitable. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #6
State owned casinos are a tax on the stupid, i.e, mathematically challenged. Divernan Jun 2015 #17
For the most part, that's true. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #97
It's all about abusing animals for human profit. F*** it! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #4
Not to mention dog fights, cock fights, ad nauseum ailsagirl Jun 2015 #21
The ratings on this race will be through the roof. yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #71
And all the non-Triple Crown winners? NuclearDem Jun 2015 #95
What's your stance on turtle gymnastics? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #8
Pffft! Just another shell game. nt pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #11
Bwahaha ! cwydro Jun 2015 #22
Like dog fighting hasn't tortoise anything. nt clarice Jun 2015 #25
Well, you don't have to snap at Scootaloo and terrapin a new hole. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #35
I'm sorry. I don't know where my head was at. nt pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #54
Thin-shelled. You know how they get, even with support. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #86
that is DUzy worthy dlwickham Jun 2015 #52
you're sticking your neck out on that one, pinboy! lastlib Jun 2015 #73
OMG LittleBlue Jun 2015 #28
Gamera! FSogol Jun 2015 #105
Bad, but not as bad as... Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #42
I knew somebody would get here first with that one, lol Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #84
AGREED! Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #9
I have to agree, cruel sports. gwheezie Jun 2015 #10
Dog shows are cruel? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #27
The shows aren't cruel gwheezie Jun 2015 #31
AKS supports the brutal torture chambers called puppy mills. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #41
Absolutely agree. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #56
Many of those dogs spend most of their life in crates. roody Jun 2015 #77
No they don't. They are pets when they aren't competing, MADem Jun 2015 #102
agreed Beringia Jun 2015 #12
Yeah, I hate horse racing. Hissyspit Jun 2015 #13
And to be consistent: Go vegan! mucifer Jun 2015 #14
Yes! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #26
Here are stats from Australia - it ain't pretty! Divernan Jun 2015 #15
Thanks. Hissyspit Jun 2015 #23
Amen to that ailsagirl Jun 2015 #16
Those horses are clearly racist underpants Jun 2015 #18
Racing in their underwear. nt clarice Jun 2015 #20
Snerk! cwydro Jun 2015 #47
You're not near as funny as you think you are. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #82
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #24
And what about the horse he rode in on? TexasProgresive Jun 2015 #30
FUCK HIM TOO! n/t charlyvi Jun 2015 #32
And the Whisperer who had them all in thrall? pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #34
WHAT THE FUCK DID HE THINK HE WAS DOING! n/t charlyvi Jun 2015 #37
Do you think you are cute or impressive throwing the "FUCK" word around? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2015 #69
I always insist on leaving the horse out of the punishment. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #33
What about beating them when they are dead? jberryhill Jun 2015 #81
Hahaha treestar Jun 2015 #46
Welcome to The Horseshoe Road Inn underpants Jun 2015 #85
Could not agree more!!! Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #29
Add Sea fucking World to that list! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #38
this commercial makes me sick napkinz Jun 2015 #61
Aaaaarrrrgggghhh! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #63
trying to restore tarnished image restorefreedom Jun 2015 #93
I can't even watch that when it comes on. Getting a glimpse of whales in swimming pools makes me Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #99
Ruffian, 8 belles, go for wand gwheezie Jun 2015 #36
Most of them sent to slaughter when they fail to "perform." MoonRiver Jun 2015 #39
I know gwheezie Jun 2015 #44
Waah, waah, waah! MicaelS Jun 2015 #40
I disapprove of animal abuse. How about you? MoonRiver Jun 2015 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Jun 2015 #51
posted by MoonRiver napkinz Jun 2015 #57
You are sadly misinformed. Please read the links below. Then tell me how you feel. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #59
There there now. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #48
Dog shows are stupid, and so are rodeos. HuckleB Jun 2015 #45
K&R! napkinz Jun 2015 #49
That's a lot of fucking. ..nt TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #50
And then there is the "Puppy mill" thing. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #53
For the folks who think racing is a fun sport, google "nurse mare foals" beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #55
I'm with you napkinz Jun 2015 #58
Yes, I saw that thread when it was posted and rec'd it immediately. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #60
K&R. Fuck 'em all CrawlingChaos Jun 2015 #62
fuck yeah! Takket Jun 2015 #64
Agreed! City Lights Jun 2015 #65
Marx said religion was the opiate of the people DirtyHippyBastard Jun 2015 #66
And fuck kitten videos on DU .. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #67
kick napkinz Jun 2015 #68
Whenever somebody says "That is all", it never is all. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2015 #70
Not furlong, anyway. nt pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #72
I remember seeing one of the big three American horse races maybe a decade ago tishaLA Jun 2015 #74
you are no fun Denis 11 Jun 2015 #75
Let me guess: you bet against American Pharoah edbermac Jun 2015 #76
I'll add: FUCK ANIMAL ABUSE APOLOGISTS!!!! Coventina Jun 2015 #78
YEAH! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #79
Yep. n/t 99Forever Jun 2015 #80
I really don't like any anything MissDeeds Jun 2015 #83
Mic drop. nt Codeine Jun 2015 #87
Horse racing is cruel get the red out Jun 2015 #88
Yes. byronius Jun 2015 #89
Wow. Kinky. Kablooie Jun 2015 #90
K&R. And their apologists. CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #91
k&r nilram Jun 2015 #92
yup. n/t restorefreedom Jun 2015 #94
Hear, hear. DavidDvorkin Jun 2015 #96
Fuck factory farming, fuck bull fights and fuck dog fighting cui bono Jun 2015 #98
A "fuck rodeo" would be an interesting spectacle jberryhill Jun 2015 #100
Don't forget rat roulette.....!!! MADem Jun 2015 #101
and circuses and zoos ... napkinz Jun 2015 #103
Fuck the use of animals as entertainment. Coventina Jun 2015 #104

Baitball Blogger

(46,750 posts)
97. For the most part, that's true.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jun 2015

But I have seen someone play the machines and win consistently. He would put in 2 or 3 coins for several turns, and then bump up to the max number and when he hit, he would hit big.

Of course, this was back in the day when they had nickel and dime machines.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
71. The ratings on this race will be through the roof.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jun 2015

If was a race of a generation, it does not happen everyday and I heard that the horse will spend the rest of his life enjoying. He will NOT go to the slaughter House at all. There is no way.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
35. Well, you don't have to snap at Scootaloo and terrapin a new hole.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:43 PM
Jun 2015

Sounds like you might be at loggerheads with anyone who doesn't agree.

lastlib

(23,257 posts)
73. you're sticking your neck out on that one, pinboy!
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:11 PM
Jun 2015

But trust you to come out of your shell with a bad pun!

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
105. Gamera!
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jun 2015

They did several Gamera movies, IIRC. All are hilarious. Gamera was a giant flying turtle (and friend to all Japan's children) made by a low budget studio as a sort of Godzilla knockoff.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
10. I have to agree, cruel sports.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jun 2015

I love watching a horse run though, beauty in motion although horses generally don't spend a lot of time galloping
I've had horses that would take off galloping for the fun of it and they would chase each other or follow the leader but I can't say they voluntarily raced each other.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
27. Dog shows are cruel?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jun 2015

I admit I've not seen a lot of dog shows...mostly just a few minutes at a time of Westminster. But the dogs seem pretty darn happy to me.

Can't stand racing two-year-old horses, though. The age at which they start training is simply too young.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
31. The shows aren't cruel
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

The breeding to fit the breed standards have created animals with health issues. And many unwanted animals.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
56. Absolutely agree.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jun 2015

There has been too much inbreeding, and while I can see the attraction (and in some cases, practical considerations) behind breeding purebreds, I find it heartbreaking to think of so many unwanted dogs and cats in shelters.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
102. No they don't. They are pets when they aren't competing,
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:15 AM
Jun 2015

they live with a family and are fussed over and loved. They get the best food and care and plenty of exercise.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
13. Yeah, I hate horse racing.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:23 PM
Jun 2015

I love breaking news, though.

I haven't forgotten when they put Prairie Bayou down in 1993. Broke a leg:


Divernan

(15,480 posts)
15. Here are stats from Australia - it ain't pretty!
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.animalsaustralia.org/issues/horse_racing.php

On the market

The 'yearling' sales of thoroughbred colts and fillies draw the 'horsey' crowd — the monied people. Most yearlings sell for tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the gamble starts right there; with the owners and trainers hoping to 'back a winner' and to have the next great champion, or at least recoup their outlay.

The scale of the industry is huge — around 15,000 thoroughbred foals are bred each year in Australia, and a similar number of standard bred foals are born nationally.

Pushing To Win

Racing as a two-year-old puts the horse at particular risk of injury because at this age the skeletal system of these animals is still immature and not ready for the hard training and physical stress of the racing world. Regardless, the lure of the very high stakes for the two-year-old races mean many owners push trainers to have their expensive animals compete.

Mental suffering
Whilst in training, horses may be individually stabled for most of every day, apart from when they're on the training track. Stabling is the most 'practical' way to provide the horses with their high-performance training and racing diet, and housing them right next to the training track reduces time consuming daily transport. However, without social and environmental stimulation, horses can develop stereotypic behaviours, such as crib-biting (biting on fences and other fixed objects and then pulling back, making a characteristic grunting noise, called wind-sucking) and self-mutilation may occur. These stereotypic behaviours are a strong indicator of welfare problems for horses. Around 31,000 thoroughbreds and a similar number of Standardbreds will be 'in training' or racing at any one time in Australia.

Physical suffering
The feeding of high concentrate diets (grains) fed during training rather than extended grazing, often leads to gastric ulcers. A study of racehorses at Randwick (NSW) found that 89% had stomach ulcers, and many of the horses had deep, bleeding ulcers within 8 weeks of the commencement of their training (Newby J, Welfare issues raised by racehorse ulcer study, The Veterinarian, March 2000).

During training and in competition, horses of all ages can suffer painful muscular-skeletal injuries, such as torn ligaments and tendons, dislocated joints and even fractured bones.

Internal race injuries
The exertion of the races leads a large proportion of horses to bleed into their lungs and windpipe — called Exercise-Induced Pulmonary Haemorrhage. This has only been fully realized in recent years when endoscopes have been used to carry out internal examinations via the throat. A study carried out by the University of Melbourne found that 50% of race horses had blood in the windpipe, and 90% had blood deeper in the lungs.

'Jumps racing'
Jumps racing is one of the many fates for 'failed' and 'retired' thoroughbred racing horses (particularly in Victoria and South Australia). Statistics over many years have shown that jumps races are even more dangerous and harmful for horses, with up to 20 times more fatalities than flat races. This is not surprising when you have a group of horses being pushed to jump a series of one metre high fences together at speed.
As well as this, the jumps races are usually much longer, and the jockeys are permitted to be heavier. Tired horses have a greater risk of falling — risking injury to themselves and often the jockeys. The injuries that occur when horses fall or career into the jumps or the barriers can be quite horrific.

Response to NuclearDem (Original post)

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
29. Could not agree more!!!
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

And FUCK circuses that use animals. Please boycott all for-profit animal torture spectacles.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
99. I can't even watch that when it comes on. Getting a glimpse of whales in swimming pools makes me
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:38 PM
Jun 2015

feel sick. I have to switch the channel ASAP.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
36. Ruffian, 8 belles, go for wand
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:43 PM
Jun 2015

Even barbaro look what he went through before they finally gave up. Not to mention the 1000's who have broken down and no one remembers

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
40. Waah, waah, waah!
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jun 2015

No matter what public event is occurring, there is always someone trying to piss in everybody else's cornflakes to prevent other people having a good time, because they disapprove of other people's behavior.


MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
43. I disapprove of animal abuse. How about you?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jun 2015

Obviously the juvenile jesters are having a field day here.

Response to MoonRiver (Reply #43)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
55. For the folks who think racing is a fun sport, google "nurse mare foals"
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:12 PM
Jun 2015

Fucking clueless.

If you choose to ignore the horrendous cruelty behind the "sport", fine.

Some of us bleeding heart liberals give a damn.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
58. I'm with you
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:16 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:12 PM - Edit history (1)

more here should read this thread started by MoonRiver :

Horse Racing - The Cruelty Behind the Glamour

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026791614

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
60. Yes, I saw that thread when it was posted and rec'd it immediately.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:18 PM
Jun 2015

Should have included the link, thank you napkinz.

DirtyHippyBastard

(217 posts)
66. Marx said religion was the opiate of the people
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jun 2015

Maybe it was at one time. Sports are the opiate of the people in the here and now.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
74. I remember seeing one of the big three American horse races maybe a decade ago
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:14 PM
Jun 2015

and one of the horses broke its leg during the race and collapsed. So someone came out, with a shotgun, and shot it right in the head. On the track. And the announcers talked about it being a humane solution, and I guess maybe it is, but not as humane as not breeding horses like they do and then pushing them to the point of breaking bones.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
83. I really don't like any anything
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:27 PM
Jun 2015

in which an animal may be hurt, and don't even get me started about rodeos and the circus. Honestly, I don't even like zoos.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
88. Horse racing is cruel
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jun 2015

It is a dirty business all the way around.

Dog confirmation shows have ruined a lot of dog breeds too.

I think humans can fool themselves into not seeing what they don't want to see.

Coventina

(27,151 posts)
104. Fuck the use of animals as entertainment.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jun 2015

It never ends well for the animals, despite a few that get treated as "royalty."

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