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"Thousands Protest Brutal Police Treatment Of Black Teens In McKinney, Texas" (Original Post) tblue37 Jun 2015 OP
Lucy you got some splainin to do FreakinDJ Jun 2015 #1
Self kick for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #2
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #3
Thank you! nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #8
K&R to keep is visible. nt avebury Jun 2015 #4
Here's the current best-selling books lovemydog Jun 2015 #5
I wish _Black like Me_ were still required reading in many classes. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #6
Yeah, that's a great one. lovemydog Jun 2015 #7
Spike Lee's "4 Little Girls" chervilant Jun 2015 #9
Thanks! lovemydog Jun 2015 #12
Eyes on the Prize... and the documentary was great, too. deurbano Jun 2015 #26
Yes, Eyes on the Prize. lovemydog Jun 2015 #30
All the episodes are available free on marym625 Jun 2015 #41
That's great. Free documentaries! lovemydog Jun 2015 #42
The Kerner Commission Report central scrutinizer Jun 2015 #54
I'm glad it opened your eyes. lovemydog Jun 2015 #59
Awesome photo. byronius Jun 2015 #10
K&R vive la commune Jun 2015 #11
K&R Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #13
Knowledge is power. The Black Power Mixtape, on netflix: lovemydog Jun 2015 #14
Thanks for that. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #16
You're welcome. It's a great documentary! lovemydog Jun 2015 #17
Maybe, just maybe there is hope murielm99 Jun 2015 #15
Education. Arm yourself with knowledge. lovemydog Jun 2015 #18
Lynching never ended, either. With so many racists and even KKK members in tblue37 Jun 2015 #19
Yes, with police department and the legal system lovemydog Jun 2015 #21
Our entire law enforcement system must be reformed, from the top down. It is shocking what passes sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #32
I agree. lovemydog Jun 2015 #33
Yes, it simply cannot be fixed, the entire entity, or whatever it is, needs to be torn down. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #45
Have you seen this? tblue37 Jun 2015 #39
No, I had not. And I felt sick to my stomach just reading it. Like I said, and I believe it even sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #44
sickenngly amerikkkan expose heaven05 Jun 2015 #58
This is all due to one stupid ass'd cop and his minions who stood around and didn't say anything to uponit7771 Jun 2015 #20
I don't know about it being caused by one idiot lovemydog Jun 2015 #22
if you think for an instant any of them weren't on the same page JackInGreen Jun 2015 #28
No! malokvale77 Jun 2015 #61
Please do research before you post azureblue Jun 2015 #63
I think as soon as RamboCop tripped someone should have said SOMETHING, the stepped in when he pulle uponit7771 Jun 2015 #64
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2015 #23
When I saw the video there was a point one of the police pulled the cop with the gun back. gordianot Jun 2015 #24
Can't we just say the obvious? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #25
I think it is the entire culture of police paranoia it starts with white cops and spreads. gordianot Jun 2015 #29
Throw more women into the force and it'll lower the testosterone level. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #31
You would think so but I believe there are a couple females under indictment in Baltimore gordianot Jun 2015 #34
That's rare though compared to what we saw at that pool party.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #36
I agree there may have been kids behaving badly but that is not how to deal with it. gordianot Jun 2015 #38
Imagine if the kids in this recent commercial were black.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #43
More willful damage than Mike Browns cigars. gordianot Jun 2015 #47
Wow I'm glad that now people react and organize instantly. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #27
Clarification wanted Rstrstx Jun 2015 #35
Kick! Stardust Jun 2015 #37
That is a heartwarming and encouraging picture. hifiguy Jun 2015 #40
As a Texan, I'm very proud with the response of the community. Lobo27 Jun 2015 #46
The kids are all right. byronius Jun 2015 #57
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2015 #48
I get so discouraged reading the internet psychmommy Jun 2015 #49
Same here. lovemydog Jun 2015 #51
K&R Enthusiast Jun 2015 #50
R&K BeanMusical Jun 2015 #52
Where was the protest? TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #53
Why not the neighborhood? malokvale77 Jun 2015 #62
WHAT? One woman makes racist statements TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #65
K&R! myrna minx Jun 2015 #55
K & R Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #56
Heck, all the reading and viewing won't change anything its Dr. Xavier Jun 2015 #60

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
5. Here's the current best-selling books
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:01 PM
Jun 2015

on amazon on African-American history. I'm glad people are protesting. I pray for justice.

There are gaps in many people's understanding of police brutality and racism in the USA. If anyone can suggest books or read some of them, that's great. We all benefit from learning more.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-African-American-History/zgbs/books/4867

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
7. Yeah, that's a great one.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:12 PM
Jun 2015

Autobiography of Malcolm X too. Fortunately people can find so many great books and movies now at the touch of their fingers. I'm reading a great history of the Black Panthers call Black Against Empire. I also recommend the movies Selma and Malcolm X. And the documentary Free Angela Davis and All Political Prisoners. I hope others will keep recommending books and movies. It's a really entertaining way to learn!

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
54. The Kerner Commission Report
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jun 2015

Some of us are old enough to remember the summer of 1967 when several cities in the United States were engulfed in turmoil, especially Newark and Detroit. LBJ commissioned this report on the root causes. It, more than anything else, made me open my eyes. I grew up in rural Nebraska and had little contact or knowledge of any culture other than white Christian farming communities.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
15. Maybe, just maybe there is hope
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jun 2015

for some justice. Maybe some black lives will be saved. (How can there be black lives and white lives? Aren't there just lives)?

Thank God for social media and cell phone videos. These are making a difference.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
18. Education. Arm yourself with knowledge.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 12:05 AM
Jun 2015

Learn more. Be a part of the struggle. I don't mean to sound simplistic or dismissive in the least. I mean that we all should keep learning as much as we can about how this is far more than a few isolated incidents caught on video. We need to understand the history. We need to understand how it relates to mass incarceration. Here's a book called The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Color Blindness. I haven't read it yet but it's getting excellent reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/New-Jim-Crow-Incarceration-Colorblindness/dp/1595586431/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1433822591&sr=8-8&keywords=black+history+books

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
19. Lynching never ended, either. With so many racists and even KKK members in
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 12:10 AM
Jun 2015

PDs and the entire legal system, police officers shooting unarmed blacks, many of whom are not doing anything wrong or even suspicious, are simply acting out the lynch mob mentality.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
21. Yes, with police department and the legal system
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 12:17 AM
Jun 2015

it's been perpetuated and institutionalized.

We must work together to end it.

It's a lifelong struggle. That struggle will continue long after we're gone.

Those looking for quick or easy solutions aren't approaching it the right way, imho.

One never stops learning. Never stops struggling. And that struggle is a part of history and will always be a part of it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
32. Our entire law enforcement system must be reformed, from the top down. It is shocking what passes
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:40 AM
Jun 2015

for a civilian police force in this country. This year alone over 400 American citizens have been murdered by the police, even AFTER the exposure of police brutality starting with Michael Brown whose death at the hands of a cop finally brought some attention to the problem.

They are more like an occupying force than a civilian police force.

Candidates for that job should be thoroughly screened before they are even allowed to begin training.

But then again, maybe this was the plan, because it's hard to believe that such massive abuse of power, could go unnoticed by those in positions to do something about it.

It is simply shocking to see the extent of the racism, the brutality of so many of these cops.

They are hiring THUGS to police this country, and I am wondering if that is no accident at this point.

As for America's prison system, it is worse than prisons in third world countries.

And there is no accountability, none. Again, I am wondering if that is no accident or some kind of lack of oversight, either

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
33. I agree.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:48 AM
Jun 2015

From both the top down and imo from the bottom up and from the middle and every angle possible, lol. There's a lot going on at local levels. Here in New Mexico, Albuquerque has been the subject of a lot of action. Police have killed so many unarmed people that the federal government is investigating and will probably force a consent decree similar to the one that was forced in Los Angeles. Locally, that also means running and electing city council members, district attorneys, judges and every single possible person who recognizes it as a huge issue and is in favor of reform. Get the incumbents who let it slide out of office. Retire them so they can't do any more damage. It also means marches and public protests, informing ourselves and talking with our friends and peers, etc.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
45. Yes, it simply cannot be fixed, the entire entity, or whatever it is, needs to be torn down.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jun 2015

I can't see any other way to start rebuilding this country into the democracy it was supposed to be. With an occupying force of morons with histories of racism, and the cult like culture that has developed over time, nothing can change that other than throwing the whole thing out and starting all over again.

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
39. Have you seen this?
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jun 2015
http://thegrio.com/2015/05/12/fbi-white-supremacists-law-enforcement/

FBI’s warning of white supremacists infiltrating law enforcement nearly forgotten

Because of intensifying civil strife over the recent killings of unarmed black men and boys, many Americans are wondering, “What’s wrong with our police?” Remarkably, one of the most compelling but unexplored explanations may rest with a FBI warning of October 2006, which reported that “White supremacist infiltration of law enforcement” represented a significant national threat.

Several key events preceded the report. A federal court found that members of a Los Angeles sheriffs department formed a Neo Nazi gang and habitually terrorized the black community. Later, the Chicago police department fired Jon Burge, a detective with reputed ties to the Ku Klux Klan, after discovering he tortured over 100 black male suspects. Thereafter, the Mayor of Cleveland discovered that many of the city police locker rooms were infested with “White Power” graffiti. Years later, a Texas sheriff department discovered that two of its deputies were recruiters for the Klan.

In near prophetic fashion, after the FBI’s warning, white supremacy extremism in the U.S. increased, exponentially. From 2008 to 2014, the number of white supremacist groups, reportedly, grew from 149 to nearly a thousand, with no apparent abatement in their infiltration of law enforcement.

This year, alone, at least seven San Francisco law enforcement officers were suspended after an investigation revealed they exchanged numerous “White Power” communications laden with remarks about “lynching African-Americans and burning crosses.” Three reputed Klan members that served as correction officers were arrested for conspiring to murder a black inmate. At least four Fort Lauderdale police officers were fired after an investigation found that the officers fantasized about killing black suspects.

<SNIP>

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
44. No, I had not. And I felt sick to my stomach just reading it. Like I said, and I believe it even
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jun 2015

more after reading that, the current 'Civilian Police' forces here in this country CANNOT be 'fixed', they need to be disbanded and rebuilt based on democratic principles, and mostly on the knowledge that they work for the people. And this 'thin blue line' BS needs to GO.

If a bad cop is found in any department every other cop there should be free to report him/her and have them removed from the job as quickly as possible.

And no more 'internal investigations'. A civilian review board that constantly changes so that no one gets comfortable or begins to identify with the cops over the people, must be part of any reform.

Most of all Community policing is a must.

The NYPD eg, is filled with outsiders from the suburbs who view minorities as a problem that needs to be 'dealt' with in that city.

And while we're at, every case of a cop killing over the past number of years should be reopened and justice done and get these killers off the streets.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
20. This is all due to one stupid ass'd cop and his minions who stood around and didn't say anything to
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 12:16 AM
Jun 2015

...him

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
22. I don't know about it being caused by one idiot
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 12:19 AM
Jun 2015

and a few other of his buddies. That's certainly what set it off. But these conditions are all around us, throughout the country. I'm glad people are getting outside and protesting. It's better than being inside.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
28. if you think for an instant any of them weren't on the same page
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:44 AM
Jun 2015

I've got a lovely bridge to sell you. Only been used once too boot!

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
61. No!
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:17 PM
Jun 2015

This is due do the prevalent racism in Texas and most of this country.

I'm glad to see some focus put on Texas.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
63. Please do research before you post
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:39 PM
Jun 2015

you may find an explanation. And here it is: The other two cops were outranked by the stupid cop. He was a lieutenant.They were following rank rules, but they were trying to calm the jerk down, but the cop wasn't about to do that. Sure, they should have stepped in and physically restrained the jerk, but he is their superior and that could blow back on them in a big way, should the jerk be found (by internal investigation) to be "Acting in accordance with rules and regulations - blah blah etc.BS BS "

I <think> as soon as the jerk took off, one of the cops uncuffed the girl.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
64. I think as soon as RamboCop tripped someone should have said SOMETHING, the stepped in when he pulle
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jun 2015

... his weapon but should've stepped in before that

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
24. When I saw the video there was a point one of the police pulled the cop with the gun back.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 12:44 AM
Jun 2015

That cop was out for blood and it came that close.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
29. I think it is the entire culture of police paranoia it starts with white cops and spreads.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:21 AM
Jun 2015

Recent events shows some support from police that are minorities if you are black or brown your life is in danger when facing a white cop, but the blue line is a color that should not be ignored.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
34. You would think so but I believe there are a couple females under indictment in Baltimore
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 03:51 AM
Jun 2015

....and at least one is not white or male. I will always believe Wilson and Ferguson was essentially racially motivated up the line to city government. Some of the others are ambiguous.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
36. That's rare though compared to what we saw at that pool party....
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jun 2015

Scared white cop acting like it was a race war.

ALL black people were GUILTY as far as he was concerned.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
38. I agree there may have been kids behaving badly but that is not how to deal with it.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jun 2015

The photographer was white standing among a group of African American kids all were forced to sit down but him. The photographer feels it was racially motivated.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
27. Wow I'm glad that now people react and organize instantly.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:11 AM
Jun 2015

If pool party incident had happened a couple years ago, it would have been met with more silenced type of rage but now in post-Ferguson world people go instantly to the streets which is how it should be. Actually it should be more and bigger response but this is a good start.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
46. As a Texan, I'm very proud with the response of the community.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jun 2015

There were white teens with their black friends holding signs and hands.

psychmommy

(1,739 posts)
49. I get so discouraged reading the internet
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 03:30 PM
Jun 2015

and seeing people automatically blame the victim. No matter the alleged crimes that folks have committed, they don't call for the death penalty. I am so happy at DU there is support and understanding. Even though campaign wars are about to begin-there is no other place I would rather be than here.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
51. Same here.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 05:15 PM
Jun 2015

Amidst the arguing there can be some good discussion too. If you haven't checked out the groups here, there's some really great ones.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
53. Where was the protest?
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jun 2015

I hope it was at the local LE office, and not in the neighborhood.

And it looks like the LEO who deserved to go, is gone!

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
65. WHAT? One woman makes racist statements
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 10:43 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2015, 11:20 PM - Edit history (1)

And an entire neighborhood gets protested?

I suppose you also think everyone was racist because they didn't let all the teens ito the pool who didn't have a right to be there.

Craig Ranch rules: Two guests per family. Twenty guests per family with a hefty deposit.

The party was "advertised" on Twitter under "dimepiececookout" by a 19 year old young woman who threw the event. She and/or the production company are already "advertising for another party in Plano, Tx. Good luck with that. I'm sure no neighborhood is going to let them in after this fiasco. By the way, if you don't believe me, you can follow them on Twitter or Instagram @_ttwinzz_

I can't believe you think that an entire neighborhood deserves this. A nineteen year old woman "mistakenly" advertises a pool party on Instagram, and the entire neighborhood is supposed to take the blame?

Dr. Xavier

(278 posts)
60. Heck, all the reading and viewing won't change anything its
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:04 PM
Jun 2015

Texas. This young lady should have told the officer, 'I'm a Bandido Ol' Lady' (she's 14, so she would be the right age), then and only then would the officer have treated her with respect. Good Lord, thank you to my Granny for moving her son to LA, when he was seven, I hate Texas.

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