Women, child filmed throwing punches in wild Indiana Walmart brawl

[UglyGreed]

Two women were filmed tearing through an Indiana Walmart in a jaw-dropping brawl that involved one of the women's 6-year-old son.

No amount of soap could clean this mess.

A Walmart aisle turned into a soapy boxing ring when two women and a child let loose on one another in a caught-on-camera brawl that was described by one witness as "white trash at its finest."

The women were arguing inside the Beech Grove, Ind. store around 10 p.m. Thursday when words turned to blows, prompting one woman to jump off her motorized scooter and knock her opponent into a nearby shampoo aisle.

What resulted was a jaw-dropping sideshow for passing shoppers.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/women-child-filmed-wild-indiana-walmart-brawl-article-1.2251116


Of course do not try to stop the fight, just film it and post it on YouTube ASAP!

Unedited video below NSFW

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Part 2

[Sunlei]

1. that child has to live with that :(

[safeinOhio]

6. But how

do I get it out of my head now?

Another reason to stay out of Wallyworld.

[dixiegrrrrl]

20. His path is already laid out for him, sadly.

I watched it, focusing on the kid. He sometimes STRUTS around yelling he is "protecting my Momma" ( who is on top of the other woman).

No way to tell if the women were drinking or using or just naturally nasty.

[Sunlei]

23. violence ruins children

[smokey nj]

27. That kid's a perp walk waiting to happen. Poor thing

doesn't have a chance.

[MADem]

41. His path might be to foster care. That's some pretty awful parenting. nt

[Warpy]

128. Someone on another board who lives in the area

says the evening news has reported that CPS has been involved.

What struck me was that blonde in the handicap cart, jumping up and starting the physical fight. No wonder I couldn't find one while I was on crutches.

I was also amazed that nobody intervened after the first few seconds, when one guy yelled at them to break it up. Security seemed to take their own sweet time getting there.

[avebury]

150. Child Protective Services needs to remove the child

from that mother. Unfortunately it is probably too late. I don't see much of a future for that child.

[Quackers]

2. You shouldn't bring a scooter to a fist fight.

[Snotcicles]

38. If I can't have that scooter, I'll make sure you'll need one. nt

[3catwoman3]

75. The scooter rider...

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...certainly got herself off that scooter with great efficiency, so she obviously can move reasonably well, and engaged in a rather sustained struggle with vigor.

As already observed, that little boy is headed for juvey if CPS does not intervene. I have worked in pediatrics for 40 years, and have thought, for most of those 40, that parenting should be a licensed profession. Crap like this is why I continue to think so.

[CrawlingChaos]

122. That would make a great sig line (nt)

[jberryhill]

3. Who shoots video with their phone held vertically?

[underpants]

7. Thank you

Rank amateurs.

[dixiegrrrrl]

19. Everybody, it seems.

Wish they would realize..

Not that I am one to talk..I don't have a cell, so cannot practice "good" filming behavior.

[snooper2]

24. usually people learn their lesson after they post it and start reading the comments

[MADem]

43. You'd think the cellphone designers would figure out a way to have the

cell phone automatically process the video images in landscape mode unless overridden.

[bunnies]

64. I shot a Sanders speech like that.

Glad I didnt post it. I wasnt aware of the rules.

[jberryhill]

81. Grr.....

Please observe:

[bunnies]

88. lol!

Worst part is that I cant even figure out how to un-sideways-ify it. Lesson learned!

[jberryhill]

89. It's like watching tv through prison bars

[bunnies]

90. Looks great on my phone though!

[treestar]

120. lol

funny!

[jberryhill]

138. Wait, there was a Sanders speech like that?

Did the little kid kick Bernie in the head?

[bunnies]

162. the shampoo throwing was the highlight!

[jberryhill]

163. Well, that explains the whole hair thing.

[Mr Dixon]

83. SAD

Agreed

[AngryAmish]

4. There is a part 2

[Quackers]

8. Oh really? Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

[safeinOhio]

9. Part 2

all about "you gave me a dirty look"

[GummyBearz]

11. Do you have a link?

[underpants]

5. Thank god they weren't at a pool party

Scooter lady doesn't need a scooter AND she must have seen Divergent because she had the same fighting pose that they used in that movie.

[whatthehey]

28. No interest in the video but your scooter comment is asinine

I have a limited walking range with one leg locked as a fleshy crutch, and an ability to stand for a short time. I could, wth one hand at least, even throw punches, but if I'm in a place the size of a Walmart, having to get up and down and twist and bend multiple times to get products, I sure as hell need a scooter and you haven't the slightest clue whether the woman referred to does either. It is bias like this, assuming that disability must either be total and permanently chair-bound (funnily enough I'm in exactly the same position as many wheelchair-bound folks except their paralysis is often driven by a transverse axis whereas mine is on a longitudinal basis) or faked and not "needing" any assistance, that makes disability even drearier than it is and has no place on this site.

I don't care whether it looks like she has my kind of problem either so don't bother telling me. I have no interest in lowest common denominator videos so won't look. She could have serious COPD, any number of CNS problems, balance issues, or hosts of other disabilities that preclude walking around and grabbing items in a big box store but still allow somebody to get up and lunge at another if they are so depressingly base to feel the need.

[underpants]

35. Ok

I meant it as a snarky comment and I have been correctly rebuffed.

[Delphinus]

10. WTF?

Seriously?! No one called security or the cops? I couldn't watch it - went to the end and it looks like one of them really got beat up bad. What the hell is the matter with people?

[jberryhill]

13. "What the hell is the matter with people?"

It's a great question.

It seems so many people are walking balls of stress and rage, waiting to unload.

[cali]

12. time for children's services to get involved. And it's disgusting no one broke it up.

[GummyBearz]

15. Its risky to try to break it up

Especially with that little shit there. Youd likely be in all kinds of trouble with the law

[cali]

16. baloney

[GummyBearz]

18. You think putting your hands on a minor wouldn't get you in trouble?

People get arrested for spanking their own child... I wouldn't risk putting my hands on another persons kid.

[kcr]

36. Putting your hands on a minor to remove them from danger will not get you arrested.

Geeze.

[GummyBearz]

39. The minor was stomping on the womans head...

and hitting her with items off the shelf. When adult bystanders told him to stop he replied "you cant tell me what to do" and went back to the fight.... I dont think "removing him from danger" would get accomplished without using a bit of force, which would get you in trouble.

Thats my take anyway. If your take is that he would just hold your hand and calmly walk to another isle, then we have vastly different conclusions on what we saw in that video.

[Politicalboi]

59. And the kids mom was telling him to hit the woman

She deserves to have to deal with CPS.

[yeoman6987]

58. There is no way I'd get involved in that mess

Especially with a young kid involved. Call me eevery name in the book. I don't care. That is out of control behavior by 3 humans and I'd want no part of it.

[hifiguy]

79. This. I am a lawyer. I would stay out of it myself and

advise anyone else to do likewise. It's asking for trouble given this set of circumstances.

[Aerows]

96. Lawsuit waiting to happen.

No way would I get involved.

[jberryhill]

98. Also a lawyer and I have indeed broken up fights

The perception of the incidence of lawsuits among members of the general public for piddling shit is way overblown.

Absent an insurance company on the other end, neither of those goobers is going to either (a) pay a retainer or (b) find a contingency lawyer eager to sue another goober with no assets.

[Aerows]

104. That's the point though

They aren't going to sue each other, they are going to sue somebody that has something.

[jberryhill]

106. Follow it through....

We may take it as a given that neither of the combatants has anywhere near a retainer to do this on a fee-paid basis.

So, they need a contingency-basis lawyer.

There is NO contingency-basis lawyer who is going to take on a case against Joe Blow unless Joe Blow has a personal liability policy of at least six digits, or liquid sole assets in that range. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Show me one - ONE - lawsuit against "person who broke up fight" in circumstances where they were not an employee of some institution where the fight happened or had some other agency/official capacity. What you'll find are various suits involving teachers at schools, security guards working at stores, cops, etc.. You will not find Joe Blow v. Jake Sixpack among them.

People beat the living shit out of each other every day all across this great land. You know how many civil suits for assault result? About none. You think either one of the two combatants is going to sue the other one? No fecking way. There's no point. What you can see is both of them suing Wal-Mart for various things, but the understanding among the general public, and even among some lawyers who have no connection to actually running a firm, is just pure unadulterated silliness on this "oh, you'll get sued" horseshit.

Again, if you can drag in a homeowners policy or an auto insurance policy on some angle, then you might find something. But Mr. Pot-To-Piss-In is not going to be a defendant in a lawsuit brought by a contingency-fee lawyer. It's stupid. You can get whatever judgment you want against Mr. Pot-To-Piss-In, and all you have is a worthless piece of paper.

I had a guy a while back who was sued for some nonsense, because he happened to have the same name as a spectacularly wealthy entrepreneur. It turns out, my guy was an unemployed part-time community college student, with an annual income of around $9,000 who lived in his mom's trailer. He was pretty scared at first and told me "I'm being sued for a hundred thousand dollars?"

So I asked him, "Do you have a hundred thousand dollars?"

"No. That's what scares me!"

"Okay, let me give you the good news first. You're not going to lose a hundred thousand dollars."

I got him sorted out eventually, once the plaintiff's lawyer realized I had him on a raft of rule violations.

But let's say, like some of people taken as a random sample in a suburban Wal-Mart, you *might* have a car you owe payments on, a dwelling you owe payments on, and a paycheck of under $30K a year (and forget any joint assets in which you might have an interest). The VAST AND OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of people standing around in that Wal-Mart may have that car with the payments due, rent a place to live, and pretty much live paycheck to paycheck with no assets to speak of at all.

Get real. That's what it is to be an American.

None of those people are worth suing for anything. And no contingency fee lawyer is going to bother with it. What a contingency fee lawyer needs is a deep pockets defendant and/or an insurance company. When Joe Blow America is out walking around - not in his car or on the grounds of the dwelling that might be covered by renter's or property insurance - and not on his employer's clock - there is NO deep pocket to be found.

Primarily all a contingency fee lawyer has is the knowledge, based on experience, of what an insurer is going to pay for "claim X" without bothering to even dig into it very deeply. Because, for a lot of say, slip and fall kind of stuff, that figure for say, hard-to-diagnose soft tissue strain injury, is going to be somewhere in a range from around $20-$50k (and, again, the PI lawyers can spit out better figures), what that means is that with very little effort - a letter, a few phone calls, tracking the statute of limitations, possibly a filing fee and a doctor's referral - that lawyer is going to get $8-$20k damned quick. Do that ten times a week, and you have a nice business going.

But nobody standing there at the Wal-Mart was employed or insured by anyone to be there, and upon whom responsibility or liability for their actions could be pinned. They were just normal people.

Go ahead and Google things like "sued for breaking up fight" - it's all teachers, bus drivers, security guards, etc. - someone whose presence and actions at the scene were part of some duty to an employer, the other people at the scene, a legal duty, and so on.

It's just silliness, Aerows, and not based on rational analysis of demonstrated likelihood.

Now yes - Gooberus Americanus is a fine species of plaintiff. To the PI bar, that is their function in the legal ecosystem. But they do not make a worthwhile defendant.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

157. How 'bout I sue YOU!

For damages you are giving me.

[jberryhill]

160. I already sued myself

I'll retire on the money I make from both ends of this thing.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

161. I lose money on every deal but I make it up in volume!!

[treestar]

124. True, but if someone eventually called the police

the two goobers would by telling stories blaming it on others. lol.

the mother goober would I predict claim the other lady and any breaker hurt the little kid. And that kid is ready to go along with any story!

[jberryhill]

136. Watch this one - with DECENT bystanders

[NobodyHere]

159. Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh

Use landscape people! Landscape!

[treestar]

165. Don't you mess with me!!!!

[jberryhill]

168. They did seem to agree about the one woman's mother

So at least there was some common ground to build on there.

[Aerows]

95. I wouldn't get involved in something like

that for all the tea in China.

It's heartbreaking, though, to watch how and what that child is being taught.

[jberryhill]

137. No tea from China was needed here:

Because there were DECENT people nearby:

And you'll notice another effect in play:

When the first guy steps in, the guy with the camera says "Hey, hold this" and also gets in between them.

There was a large group watching the fight in the OP who could have collectively acted, but someone wanted to be "junior lawyer" instead.

[Aerows]

143. Okay

You made your point.

Being as I weigh all of 105 lbs and am 5'3", I'll wade in and stop an altercation between people who are nearly twice my size next time.

God forbid I act like a "junior lawyer".

[jberryhill]

145. Yes, because binary reasoning independent of circumstances is the way to go

[Aerows]

147. That was your point, though

People should step in and stop it.

I'm a person, so I assumed, rightfully, that you meant me, when I said I wouldn't get involved for legal reasons. Did I mention I'd be afraid I'd get my block knocked off? If I didn't, that's an oversight on my part.

People view things through the lens of their own experience. Hell, this is a message board - most of us know absolutely nothing about the people we are replying to.

[jberryhill]

149. No that was not my point

My point was that people should stop telling other people to suppress their own decent moral instincts based on complete voodoo notions of how law works in any practical sense.

My reaction was not to you in particular, but your comment did pique the sense that I got from some jackass *in the video* who dissuades others from doing anything based on this insidious species of common wisdom.

In real life, there is a diffusion of responsibility phenomenon which breaks like a sheet of glass when one single person steps forward - others follow.

Notice in the video I posted, that a very slight woman also offers calming words to the two women fighting, and stays out of harm's way.

Justifying the suppression of decent human behavior because "ooga booga lawsuit" is, in general, far worse than any practical legal consequences of any genuine likelihood. This species of folk wisdom is promoted by insurance companies for venal reasons, and by lawyers who are really good at "issue spotting", but very short on statistics.

[Aerows]

151. Calming words are just that -

words, and everyone would always hope that things could be solved by discourse rather than fists. This was a physical altercation.

The problem comes in when you actually *have* something to be sued away from you, a child is involved, and you would also be summoned as a damn witness to the whole thing that means you have to go to court and take time away from your own job and family.

You are a lawyer? You go to court everyday. That's your livelihood. It isn't mine, and I don't want to be involved in the legal kerfuffle that you know would be coming if you got involved.

It's a hardship to get embroiled in being a witness, etc. Nobody but lawyers have time for that. I sure as hell don't. I also have money to lose, which was my original point - I don't want to be sued by "I don't have a pot to piss in" because I have one and a window to throw it out.

[jberryhill]

153. Just out of curiousity

What is the liability limit on your car insurance policy, and on your homeowner's insurance policy?

Do you know that, just by driving down the road, you might make a mistake and cause a tractor trailer hauling a load of diamonds to jacknife into a bus taking Taylor Swift to a concert performance?

That can happen.

Gloria Estefan was put out of commission for 10 months - you know what the economic damages were there?

http://articles.mcall.com/1990-05-24/news/2742401_1_truck-brakes-pop-singer-gloria-estefan

The truck driver whose tractor-trailer crashed into pop singer Gloria Estefan's bus in the Poconos has been found guilty of driving at an unsafe speed and operating a vehicle with faulty brakes.

District Justice Peter Gaughan of Mount Pocono yesterday fined Heraldo E. Samuels of Scarborough, Ontario, about $200 in the March 20 accident. Samuels, who represented himself at the hearing, pleaded not guilty.

Stay home. Don't drive. Because I'm willing to bet your auto insurance policy is nowhere near what you could realistically rack up.

But you know why people don't worry about it?

Because Mr. Pot-To-Piss-In's lawyer is only going after the policy limit.

If you own a home worth, say, $750,000 - you aren't going to lose your home. Let's say you own that outright. First off, the state you are in may prevent any type of levy against the home (Texas, for example). But, again, the best I'm going to do with your home as a PI contingency lawyer is get a lien against it. So flipping what? Why would I bother? That doesn't put bread on my table, and I've got 10 other leads on potential plaintiffs to go through today. It costs me money to do that, and I don't get anything. Civil judgments are not self-executing.

[Aerows]

154. And of course, you dismissed

the other concerns - taking time off of work and family - because you got involved.

I *HAVE* to drive and I have to have homeowner's insurance. I don't *have* to physically get involved in a disgusting brawl in the shampoo aisle of Wal-mart, and it would be pretty dumb for me to do so.

If you don't see the reason and sense in that, I don't know what to tell you.

[jberryhill]

155. Sigh

I think I've got this distilled to its essence:

If you find yourself in a situation where your moral conscience is pulling you one way, and your wallet is pulling you the other way, which way do you go?

This subthread - and others like it here - began with a comment stating:


"it's disgusting no one broke it up"

Look back at this thread.

That's what Cali said.

And Cali is right.

Several smartypants jumped in to suggest "Oh no, that's foolish, lawsuit ooga-booga!" just like the guy in the video.

I don't care what you own or how much you weigh, or what you own - it is disgusting that no one broke it up.

You weren't there. A whole bunch of other people WERE THERE AND THEN.

No, I am not suggesting that you personally needed to rush hundreds of miles to the scene and do something yourself.

But if we are going to accept the "moral principle" of:

I value my shit more than acting like a decent human being.

Then I don't want to see anyone spouting that line to be criticizing the Koch Brothers, the Walton Family, Sheldon Adelson, and all of the various corporate sponsors and their owners in our political system.

Because THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY FEEL TOO.

And whether, in some situation you personally have some moral choice to make - then make it on whatever basis you want. But please at least do not join the chorus of those who do not at least encourage others to - at a minimum - ASPIRE to have the fiber to choose a decent course of action over how much they value their shit.

Otherwise, as a species, we can just throw in the towel right now.

In other words - let me make this clear:

It is fine with me if you, in a situation where you have the reasonable ability to act in a way that is positive in a bad situation, you stand there and do nothing.

That's fine. That's understandable. Whatever.

But do not tell other people it would be foolish to act, where you are unwilling. Maybe you will need, and receive, someone's aid some day when you desperately need it, and maybe they will not have received the wise counsel of fretters.

Fear and self-interest are not virtues. Let's at least encourage others to overcome them if we ourselves cannot.

[Atman]

37. There are "good Samaritan" laws.

Unfortunately, we don't have many good Samaritans any more.

[Romeo.lima333]

42. do you know what they are in your state? (no fair looking it up now)

[Atman]

47. Not exactly, but...

My wife is an APRN, so she is one of those "required reporters," or whatever they call it. I do know that our laws protect her from liability if she stops to help someone, and that she is required to report any suspected child or spousal abuse to the state. So I just tend to keep my nose out of it and say "You go, honey!"

[Travis_0004]

48. I figgure if you are adult enough to start a fight, I'm not going to risk breaking it up

I'm an amateur boxer, with 10 fights under my belt, I have 4 wins (I never said I was good at boxing)

The woman on the scooter started a fight, and the other person finished it. If there was an adult stopping on her head, fine, break it up, but why risk injury and lawsuits. I don't want to see anybody innocent getting hurt, but nobody in that video looked to be innocent to me. If you are going to start a fight, I'm not going to feel sorry for you if get hit a few times (for the record, I have never been involved in a fight outside of a boxing gym.)

[valerief]

22. Break it up? And your lose your house to lawyer's fees? No way. Not in America. nt

[Sparhawk60]

73. Saddly, I Agree

Sadly, I agree. Stop the fight and lose my house paying my legal bills. Or worse, Bubby shows up at my house all liquored up with a shotgun to defend his lady's honor.

[Romeo.lima333]

40. no good deed goes unpunished

[cheapdate]

103. My mother made my father stop the car

so she could get out and break up a fight between some twenty-somethings one night as we were driving home along the crowded beachfront road in Panama City Beach, FL. She marched directly up to them and demanded they stop being foolish immediately. They complied without argument. She's a retired social worker who worked in child abuse and neglect all of her adult life. She's like a force of nature. She tolerates no shenanigans.

Her mother was another fierce Greek who owned and ran a bar (which happened to be a gay bar, but that's another story) in downtown Mobile, AL. She also tolerated no monkey-business.

She would have broken it up in a heartbeat, of that I have no doubt.

[diamondhead]

108. Internet Warriors...

If this happened in front of you, you wouldn't have tried to break it up. Come on.

[cwydro]

14. Very sad.

Something has gone terribly wrong in our country.

[goldent]

118. I think things like this have happened forever

but now there is always someone with a video camera to record it and post it to the web. It's a modern version of a minstrel show.

[treestar]

125. Yep.

Practically everyone having a camera on them at all times - this could have happened in the 80s but no one had a video camera handy.

[KG]

17. ...prompting one woman to jump off her motorized scooter...

what is it with white people anyway?

[valerief]

21. If she could jump off and fight, why was she using a motorized scooter? I thought

they were for disabled people.

They were both shitheads, and we can see what that kid's future will be like--super shithead 2025.

I'm surprised no one pulled out a friggin' gun and killed someone. If people have to be crazy--and according to the oligarchs, we do, so they can get more, more, more--at least no one got killed here. Still, whatever happened to a good old shouting match?

[whatthehey]

29. see 28. Ableist bullshit.

[valerief]

31. Can't see it. Must have that person on Ignore. nt

[Lancero]

52. Here you go...

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[valerief]

57. Thanks. Still not buying the okay-to-fight-but-not-walk stuff, but I don't really care.

I don't care who uses the carts. I just thought it was funny.

[jberryhill]

135. It's not like there are any rules posted on who gets to use them

No store polices who is allowed to use the motorized carts.

[valerief]

139. Right. I don't care. It was just weird watching it. Like when a twenty-year-old pulls

into a handicap space--no handicap sign or plate--and hops out of the truck and rushes into the store. The balls.

[jberryhill]

140. Meh

The parking spaces are reserved for people with the appropriate permit.

If someone has, say, a sore leg or some other temporary injury, for example, and just doesn't feel like walking through the cavernous expanses such are Wal-Mart's, there's no "driver's permit" needed for one of the motorized carts.

They are there as a convenience to any customer who desires to use one, as far as I can tell.

If I were inclined to shop at Wal-Mart and was chafing badly that day, I don't see why I wouldn't be welcome to do so.

[valerief]

141. I wouldn't know. I don't shop at Wal-Mart. nt

[jberryhill]

142. Lots of stores have motorized carts

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They are not some sort of conveyance unique to the Mart de Wal.

[valerief]

144. Got it. I still don't care who uses them. nt

[jberryhill]

146. Neither does the store or anyone else

Which is why the replies above, to the extent that scooter lady is "disabled", have no basis in any confirmed fact.

The mere fact that someone is using a store scooter does not mean that person is disabled or just plain lazy.

Gotta say, scooter lady seems pretty spry.

[Travis_0004]

50. I'm going to go out on a limb and say 5% chance that woman is actually disabled.

[snooper2]

25. Oh trust me it's not just white people, it's trashy people-

1000's of videos of every race, creed and color behaving like this in any country on the planet-

Well, except maybe the Swiss, they rise above everything

[Roland99]

26. Wonder if there's an insurance company or gov't SSDI office interested in this video!

[romanic]

107. Every race has its trash.

And no im not being "classist " im being honest, I don't associate with losers that brawl up in walmart or public places in general.

[840high]

167. It's not just white people. Believe me.

[whatthehey]

30. Ableist bullshit again. See 28

[Capt. Obvious]

32. Please post a link to the post you are telling others to go read

[Capt. Obvious]

33. I love that the little boy is yelling, "WORLD STAR!"

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

34. If they were black, they'd be dead!

[treestar]

126. Sadly true

The cops would have been called.

I was wondering why none of those people called at least security. I think they were entertained.

[rurallib]

44. Seems like some Walmart in this country has an ugly incident every week

They are getting to be scary places to go into.
Got to be bad for business.

[TreasonousBastard]

45. "Johnny! Punch her in the fucking head!"

And he did... Yeah, kid's got little hope for a future that doesn't include jail, or worse.

With that mother, can't imagine what the kid's father is like. Maybe she killed and ate him, like a praying mantis.

Can't tell for sure, but the scooter looked like a store scooter, not her own, which leads to thoughts that would get me yelled at around here.

[cbdo2007]

49. With all the guns in our country, I'll never break up another fight again....but

it would have been funny to jump on the scooter and drive away with it.

[KamaAina]

51. Brawlmart. Always the low blows. Always.

[UglyGreed]

54. I'm scared to reply to this

thread but you did make me laugh, thank you.

[gopiscrap]

53. Wal-Mart typical: why is that Wal-Mart

appeals so much to the lowest common denominator?

[lame54]

67. it's their business plan

[goldent]

116. I think it is because Walmart are the largest retailer

and have a very wide range of products and are viewed as a great discounter. If you don't have much money you don't shop at whole foods and macy's.

[KamaAina]

55. Indiana? Did they go out for pizza afterward?

Extreme homophobia and general trashiness do tend to go together, after all.

[1StrongBlackMan]

56. A couple thoughts ...

1) Where was the store's security?

2) Why didn't one (or several) of the many people watching step in to break them up?

3) That poor kid ... On so many levels. (I was afraid that he was going to get something for effective than the cans that he was hitting the woman with)

[GummyBearz]

63. yea

Agree on points 1 and 3. I feel sorry for that kids future. He needs a good influence in his life quick (mom obviously isn't one).

[1StrongBlackMan]

68. Did you hear her instructing the kid to ...

"hit her in her F'ing face!"?

[treestar]

127. Yes on one

and on 2 they could at least verbally have yelled at the women to stop rather than simply filming and commenting!

[DawgHouse]

152. I agree with your three points.

As to #2, I did hear a man on the video say something like, "Ya'll, really? There's kids all around here." It sounded as if he was trying to make them simmah down. He also sounded suspiciously like Larry the Cable Guy.

Other than that, I didn't hear anyone else really say anything to the brawling women.

[jwirr]

60. Everyone is talking about stopping that. It would be easy to do: 911.

[GreatGazoo]

61. You might think so but....

[jmowreader]

65. I'm going to hell for thinking this...

...but with all the police brutality in the world, couldn't some have been used on the "you're hitting children!" guy? His "children" (1) started the fight and (2) were bigger than the cops.

[GreatGazoo]

102. The cops seem to rush in after someone panics when they say "We have to separate these people..."

and it goes nuts from there. Reports claim the church group had trained in tactics including rolling on the ground to break taser wires.

The WalMart employee just punches on the father then takes a little break then goes in for more but the father is so amp'd and so busy yelling "you are fascists!" that he seems less effected than the employee.

[notadmblnd]

80. Is it possible to call 911 while filming?

I use my phone for phone calls exclusively even though it has all the bells and whistles, so I really don't know if it is possible to do both simultaneously.

[jwirr]

101. No but surely he was not the only person in the store.

[mnhtnbb]

86. The story says Walmart management called 911 within a minute of the brawl starting

and it took 8 minutes for police to respond.

[ileus]

62. Nothing a good dose of pepper spray in the general area wouldn't have fixed.

[lame54]

66. was that Walker or Texas Ranger?

[Scurrilous]

69. LOL

[truebrit71]

70. Indiana - the Flori-duh of the Mid-West...

...

[Rex]

71. You think they vote?

Ahhhh...nothing like rolling up on a scooter to rumble in the isles of Wal-Mart! Stay classy!

[Whiskeytide]

82. I was thinking scooter gang brawl too...

... maybe the "Sons of Walton"? The "Wal-locks"?

I'd like to see an all out rumble with the "Targets of Silence".

[postatomic]

72. Why is it always in a Wal-Mart?

And no one stepped in?

Clean up in aisle 9.

[jberryhill]

92. Because millions of people are in one each day

[postatomic]

164. I'll take 'demographics' for $400

[lonestarnot]

74. Well since it is posted someone may rescue the child.

[In_The_Wind]

85. umm ... that would be nice cause it looks like he is gonna need help.

[Contrary1]

76. Update: Charges may be filed.

I realize this is the Inquisitr, but I couldn't resist posting it after reading the second paragraph.

"In Indiana, a Walmart brawl video has gone viral since it shows two women and a 6-year-old fighting in the shampoo aisle for about five minutes. Beech Grove police are investigating the Walmart fight video, and they are considering whether to involve the Department of Child Services in their investigation.

In a related report by the Inquisitr, a Walmart management is promising to play less Justin Bieber music in order to improve the mental health of their employees. Perhaps Bieber was on an endless loop as that is about the only way to explain the insanity shown on these two Walmart brawl videos..."

http://www.inquisitr.com/2157429/indiana-walmart-brawl-video-women-6-year-old-under-investigation-for-beech-grove-walmart-fight/

[frylock]

77. breaking up a fight is a good way to get injured yourself..

it's not uncommon for people who attempt to break up a fight to incur serious injury, including broken bones.

[hifiguy]

78. The scum needs to be scraped out of the gene pool.

Jayzus on a unicycle juggling fish.

[goldent]

123. It has been tried before but didn't go well.

[damnedifIknow]

84. So let's just stand around and watch it

This whole incident reeks of stupid.

[mnhtnbb]

87. Apparently no store security on duty.

Took 8 minutes for police to respond--and they were called within a minute of the brawl starting--according
to the story at the link in OP.

[hifiguy]

91. It is entirely possible you would get your ass sued off

if you tried to break up something like that, especially if one of the combatants suffered so much as a bruise over the result. I speak as a lawyer. There's always someone ready to sue a would-be good samaritan, and it isn't worth losing your house over.

[jberryhill]

93. "Entirely possible"

Life is not a torts final.

I'm willing to bet that:

1. Thousands of people break up fights every day.

2. Hardly any are sued for anything.

3. Of those sued, hardly any of the cases go anywhere.

I would also be willing to bet that:

Your odds of being killed in a car accident to and from Wal-Mart are at least an order of magnitude greater than any legal consequences of breaking up a fight inside one.

I got in between two guys fixing to fight over some nonsense at a Wal-Mart some 15 years ago (the last time I recall having been in one), said firmly "guys, calm down, it's not worth it" and lived to tell the tale.

OF COURSE on the torts exam, you get extra points for lauding the guy that watches the baby drown in a puddle, but that is not a class in being a human being.

[hifiguy]

94. THe folks in that video definitely seem like the type

that would sue.

[jberryhill]

97. On the basis of their apparent ability to pay a retainer?

Or if some goober walks into your office and wants you to sue some other goober on contingency, you'll snap to attention and say, "Indeed, this is what I want to spend my next 300 billable hours doing!"

Contingency tort litigation on behalf of turnips only works if there is an insurer on the other side. Since most people walking around a Wal-Mart don't have $1M personal liability policies, what are you going to collect? A pickup truck with payments due? A minimum wage garnishment?

On contingency.

C'mon.

The general public is already misled enough about how and why tort lawsuits work. How many full-on assaults among the general public result in an actual civil lawsuit? Approximately none, relative to their incidence.

Most people don't have enough assets to make them worth suing, and you should know that.

And that's *before* we get into "liability for what, exactly" along with counterclaims.

[hifiguy]

99. Most PI lawyers work on a contingency basis.

I worked for a while at a small firm that specialized in representing injured railway workers suing under FELA. No or minimal retainer. The firm pas pair out of the proceeds of settlement or jury verdict. Standard operating procedure for personal injury lawyers all over the country.

[jberryhill]

100. Hello? Is this thing on?

Do you have any familiarity with PI contingency practice?

Yes, that firm was suing a ginormous corporation with an insurer standing behind it, who both have huge bankrolls to decide to fight, settle, or pay a liability claim.

How many cases did that firm take where a low income person with no assets was suing ANOTHER low income person with no assets on contingency?

Answer: none.

Did you read anything I wrote?

In order to take a case on contingency, the defendant has to have MONEY or have an insurer with MONEY.

Contingency litigation isn't undertaken for shits and giggles. There has to be a strong likelihood of liability AND a certainty of getting the MONEY out of the defendant.

Wait, wait, don't tell me... your firm got a $1M judgment out of a guy who makes minimum wage, and they've got him garnished at 10 bucks a week until the sun burns out? AmIrite?

Yes, PI lawyers work on contingency. Which is why you don't see PI suits between low income parties, absent an insurer to tie it to.

Read the whole post, not just the subject line:

Contingency tort litigation on behalf of turnips only works if there is an insurer on the other side. Since most people walking around a Wal-Mart don't have $1M personal liability policies, what are you going to collect? A pickup truck with payments due? A minimum wage garnishment?

[treestar]

130. I worked in a PI contingency firm

I don't think we would have taken that for the reason it's not going to be easy to prove which is at fault. Here you have the video but it's pretty tough to assign blame to the other woman if you have the other as plaintiff. The one coming off the scooter seems to have started it, but the other did not go away and put in some blows herself.

So it would be a crappy case. And not worth much anyway, as neither would have injuries of a serious nature.

[jberryhill]

134. Still missing the point

Let's say that one of them very seriously injured the other. Permanent total disability.

You STILL wouldn't take the case on contingency - BECAUSE THE DEFENDANT HAS NO MONEY.

Even if liability is 100% assured, you don't take a case on contingency if you CAN'T GET PAID.

The firm at which you worked would take a case if there was (a) reasonable likelihood of showing liability and (b) an insurance policy or deep pocketed defendant to go after.

Most Americans are judgment proof. Nobody - NOBODY - takes a contingency civil assault case involving two low income people with no assets. The only time you would do that is if one of them was on the clock for their employer.

Civil lawsuits are completely irrelevant to most Americans on their own free time. Most Americans have no assets worth going after, and no income worth garnishing for a slow payback over an indefinite period of time.

At the level of evaluation you were doing, it was already a given that there was money to go after somewhere.

[treestar]

166. Homeowner's insurance sometimes covers it

We used to do cases where a kid punched somebody, because that coverage would take care of it. But you'd have to have the defendant own their home for that. Still, we'd keep the case long enough to look into it. But mainly, when it comes to mutual fights, you have too much of an issue about who is at fault. Naturally the both lie for their own side.

[3catwoman3]

105. Actually, they behave more like someone...

...who would track you down and throw a Molotov cocktail through one of your windows.

[diamondhead]

109. Another Internet warrior

Hilarious. I bet you'd have TOTALLY gone in there to break up the fight of two total strangers in a country where anybody could have a gun and everybody sues everybody. Sure.

[AngryAmish]

110. When do we gonna post a vid of the woman kicking two guys asses at a gas station until she is nude ?

Because that was better.

[jberryhill]

111. Need some better search terms

[jberryhill]

112. Ah, "Naked lady beats up 4 guys"

For the discerning viewer of YouTube fight videos.

[melman]

113. Here you go

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=476_1433706744

[AngryAmish]

117. O beautiful for spacious skies,

For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassioned stress
A thoroughfare of freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!

O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife.
Who more than self their country loved
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness
And every gain divine!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for halcyon skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the enameled plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till souls wax fair as earth and air
And music-hearted sea!

O beautiful for pilgrims feet,
Whose stem impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till paths be wrought through
wilds of thought
By pilgrim foot and knee!

O beautiful for glory-tale
Of liberating strife
When once and twice,
for man's avail
Men lavished precious life!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till selfish gain no longer stain
The banner of the free!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till nobler men keep once again
Thy whiter jubilee!




This should be it's own post.

[Catherine Vincent]

158. O M G

[Enrique]

114. i found out what they're fighting over

the winner gets to be the GOP's VP candidate

[Hotler]

115. Why was that one on a scooter??? She look healthy to me.

Bone lazy I guess. That right there folks are two of our American voters. Real critical thinkers there.

[TheManInTheMac]

119. LOL! I go to Walmart once a week just hoping to see something like this.

Sadly, it has eluded me; perhaps even I shall have to try a new Walmart.

[avebury]

121. I would not have wanted to get in the middle

of that. Particularly since you never know whose packing. I would notify a store employee that they needed to get someone to deal with them (while dialing 911 on my cell phone).

[Cleita]

129. One of the reasons I don't shop at Wal-Mart.

Even if they paid their employees well and stocked their shelves with American made goods, the trash I have seen walking the aisle and who have rudely confronted me at times when I didn't get out of their way fast enough frankly scare me. So I don't need to feel threatened that way.

[Historic NY]

131. People sometimes go to Wally World for the entertainment...

believe me its a sight to behold sometimes. The store should have security, but then again they aren't allowed to act. The alternative is to hire uniformed off duty police. Unless of course the local department doesn't want anything to do with the constant freak show.

[SheilaT]

132. Where the fuck was security?

Or does Wally World not even bother to have security?

[aikoaiko]

133. Ugly. Looks like scooter woman started it.

[jonno99]

148. Very sad... nt

[nilesobek]

156. Grotesque.

No one could intervene? Lots of these streetfights turn out real bad with serious injuries and death. Just filming away while someone could be hurt or killed.

I hope they throw the book at them both.