Heard on an NPR show this afternoon re a discussion of how the supremes could rule on Obamacare

[NRaleighLiberal]

It struck me how easily swayed and utterly uniformed much of our public is. There was a really good discussion about the teeny tiny little clause that is actually tucked in the subsidy calculator section, the wording of which is the basis for the case coming up in front of the supreme court. The host asked the subject expert about what would happen if the court ruled against the case and tossed millions of Americans into a situation where they couldn't afford their insurance.

And the clincher - the expert said "republican politicians are hoping this will happen, and that come election time, the voters will blame Obama for losing their insurance". Forget all of the red states that opted out....forget any logic whatsoever.

Needless to say, that discussion didn't make me feel very good at all about our country's future - even if the court rules for keeping Obamacare as it is. The fact that we have a voting public - well, that only half vote at best - that has the attention span and understanding depth of - what? a rock? (with no insult meant to rocks)....

[gratuitous]

1. What it means

What it means is, as usual, Democrats will have to overcome Republican lies, popular media mindless repetition of those lies, and lazy journalists who can't be bothered to communicate facts, and remind the public why their health care insurance has been whisked away.

Yes, it's too bad to say "when you're explaining, you're losing," but we don't have much choice when the public arena is tilted so heavily against us.

[NRaleighLiberal]

4. exactly.

so frustrating, though...we should be used to it, I guess.

[Warpy]

7. Oh, I don't think they'll have to do much explaining

Millions of people will suddenly lose their subsidies and be faced with the choice of spending money they don't have in order to keep health insurance or face the fines for not having it.

They are not going to be happy about that. That's when the explanations need to take place, not in anticipation of another bad USSC ruling that hasn't happened yet.

Perhaps some of them will realize the connection between Republicans and idiots on the USSC.

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. When is the decision due to be released?

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. they were talking as if it could be very soon.

[dsc]

6. most likely on a Monday in June

that would be the 15th, the 22nd, or the 29th. Possibly a Thursday 11th, 18th or 25th.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Some of us spend time, lots of it, on policy

it sinks here... but the if it bleeds it leads does very well. Here, people spend days on a shitty novel and words, but not policy. So don't blame the American people... you have that happening HERE. This is one of the reasons this place is **&*^... funny as hell to me. (Here, self censor less we spend days on a word, AGAIN)

Speaking of stories media does not generally speaking cover. I got a rally to write the story on from a local labor action. Not that it is of interest HERE on DU. That has been made abundantly clear.

[nadinbrzezinski]

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It seems the only time nadine posts on here is to disparage DU and DUers. I think it is disruptive and rude. She is clearly trying to instigate and cause division here.

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[neverforget]

11. I can't believe that was alerted on.

Stay strong Nadin!

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. sadly I can

Ironically the alert made the point I made in the post.

[randys1]

8. Yes, they are going to destroy ACA and by doing so accomplish much.

a. most uninformed people who dont have a strong opinion on Obama one way or the other, will blame Obama and the Dems because the Nazi, uh I mean rightwing media machine is ALL media other than two hours a day or maybe 3 on MSNBC, all other media is rightwing and when the ENTIRE media tells you Obama is to blame, then Obama is to blame


b. it will kill some poor people, which they really want to do, no matter what color they are

c. it will make working people and the poor even more vulnerable, something the right absolutely LOVES

[rurallib]

10. Republicans own 99% of the media in this country

does anyone expect any kind of fair coverage, honestly?
SCOTUS will destroy the ACA and Democrats will be blamed. Media will reinforce that message daily.

Perception is reality.

[Hoyt]

13. I still can not believe even this Court can vote the ACA down. Congressional intent is clear,

that the Federal Exchange is there for states too cheap, or stupid, to develop their own. Had nothing to do with subsidies.

I guess we'll know soon enough.