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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:16 PM Jun 2015

Obama Lawyers Asked Secret Court to Bypass Public Court’s Decision on NSA Spying

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/obama_lawyers_asked_secret_court_to_ignore_public_courts_decision_20150609


via truthdig:


The Obama administration asked a federal court to resume the NSA surveillance programs ended by the expiration of parts of the Patriot Act on June 1.

After Congress voted last week for legislation ending the NSA’s ability to collect and store millions of Americans’ phone records, the Justice Department submitted a legal memorandum to the secretive federal court justifying authorization for NSA collection for a further six months.

Spencer Ackerman of The Guardian reports.

The legal request, filed nearly four hours after Barack Obama vowed to sign a new law banning precisely the bulk collection he asks the secret court to approve, also suggests that the administration may not necessarily comply with any potential court order demanding that the collection stop.

US officials confirmed last week that they would ask the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court – better known as the Fisa court, a panel that meets in secret as a step in the surveillance process and thus far has only ever had the government argue before it – to turn the domestic bulk collection spigot back on. ...

[Justice Department national security chief John A. Carlin] asked the Fisa court to set aside a landmark declaration by the second circuit court of appeals. Decided on 7 May, the appeals court ruled that the government had erroneously interpreted the Patriot Act’s authorization of data collection as “relevant” to an ongoing investigation to permit bulk collection.


The Justice Department said in its memo: “The government respectfully submits that it may seek and this court may issue an order for the bulk production of tangible things” under the law, “as it did in ... prior related dockets,” .

Learn more here.

—Posted by Alexander Reed Kelly.




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Obama Lawyers Asked Secret Court to Bypass Public Court’s Decision on NSA Spying (Original Post) marmar Jun 2015 OP
speechless grasswire Jun 2015 #1
You would have taken the words out of my mouth Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #9
and some have the unmitigated gall to be mortally offended at "used car salesman" TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #2
K&R Oilwellian Jun 2015 #3
Posted this yesterday . . . markpkessinger Jun 2015 #8
K&R. Segami Jun 2015 #4
Congress ends what was illegal to begin with but they got away with it for over a decade. THEN the sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #5
Rule of law only seems to apply to us little people marmar Jun 2015 #7
yeah, how is this constitutional? grasswire Jun 2015 #11
Congress seems to have lost all of its power. See the TPP eg, they were not even 'allowed' sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #12
the impunity is startling, yet grasswire Jun 2015 #14
Oh, boy. bigwillq Jun 2015 #6
Par for the course. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #10
Kick LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #13
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
9. You would have taken the words out of my mouth
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:02 AM
Jun 2015

Had I not been speechless too.

Obama is very disappointing at times.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
2. and some have the unmitigated gall to be mortally offended at "used car salesman"
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 08:03 PM
Jun 2015

The open hostility toward civil liberties is breathtaking.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. Congress ends what was illegal to begin with but they got away with it for over a decade. THEN the
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:39 PM
Jun 2015

DOJ over rides the Legislative body of the US and does its own thing?

Can someone explain how this could happen?

Has there been a coup or something?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Congress seems to have lost all of its power. See the TPP eg, they were not even 'allowed'
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jun 2015

to participate in writing legislation.

Now they do something right for a change, and the DOJ simply ignores it.

How is this possible?

Seems our country was handed over to Corporate entities without even a whimper.

'Terrorists want to steal your freedoms'..

Too bad, terrorists, someone got their before you!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
14. the impunity is startling, yet
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jun 2015

but it appears they have no fear of the people or their elected representatives.

Too powerful to fail.

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