DU Straw poll.......Who will you vote for in the primary

[Pharaoh]

109 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Hillary Clinton
	11 (10%)
	Bernie Sanders
	93 (85%)
	Martin O'malley
	2 (2%)
	Lincoln Chafee
	0 (0%)
	Other
	3 (3%)
	3 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[FSogol]

1. Why not follow your poll up with this question:

If your #1 candidate fails to get the nomination, who do you consider the 2nd best choice?

[Reter]

5. Chafee

n/t

[Cheese Sandwich]

42. From my cold dead hands...

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ICYMI: Chafee wants to make us learn the metric system.

[samsingh]

51. and we shouldn't learn

[Cheese Sandwich]

67. Only half serious. I like the rulers with centimeters on one side and inches on the other.

[hifiguy]

6. O'Malley. nt

[daleanime]

32. +1

[cherokeeprogressive]

37. ^THIS^

[Aerows]

8. I'd be thrilled as hell

with either O'Malley or Sanders.

I like both of them.

[cascadiance]

10. Sounds like we should want Skinner to put in place "instant runoff" voting polls!

So that we could test how instant runoff voting would work here! Then the "second place" vote would be built in to the poll!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. Me.

[sabrina 1]

40. My second best choice is O'Malley!

[vi5]

52. If not Bernie, then O'Malley.

If not O'Malley then whoever else may get in the race. If not anyone else, then I'll drown my sorrows in whiskey and weep as I pull the general election lever for Hillary.

[FSogol]

65. That's the spirit. Vote Democratic.

[stage left]

82. O'Malley.

[NaturalHigh]

87. Sanders

[littlewolf]

2. not sure if it will matter. NC has such a late primary it is usually done by

time it gets to me.

[Kalidurga]

3. Well then we should push for primaries that are truly National

Or at least not count the votes until everyone has voted. It seems weird to cut out entire states because of a schedule.

[Recursion]

24. OTOH the extended campaign process reveals a lot about a candidate

For all its flaws, the campaign is just about the only way we get to see how well a candidate handles the sorts of administrative responsibilities a President will have.

[Kalidurga]

25. I am not saying shorten the process

Just don't count the votes til it's over.

[brooklynite]

74. So you'll trust votes tallied but not reported?

Are you also aware that "votes" don't equal "delegates" in the caucus system?

[Kalidurga]

75. Let me put it this way I think no matter what state a person is from should have a say

a whole lot of people are saying it's over before they get to vote in their state. Perhaps you live on the east coast and it's not an issue. It seems that basic fairness would mean someone in California's vote counts as much as someone's in New Hampshire.

[brooklynite]

76. Are you talking about the GE or the Primary?

[Kalidurga]

77. The primary

I have seen a lot of people say they don't really get to participate, because the candidate is all but nominated by the time their turn to vote comes around. I think it goes from February to around the end of June. They could make it so the voting is closer together like everyone votes around the same time in June.

[brooklynite]

81. ...which has nothing to do with being on the East Coast...

...each State picks its own dates, excluding the opening 4 (IA, NH, SC and NV). Now, if you want a national Primary so everyone gets to have a say, fine by me but you just knocked out Bernie Sanders and every candidate who can't raise $2-3 hundred million to campaign everywhere at the same time.

[TheKentuckian]

26. Not really and even is so not worth the trade off of making tens of millions votes ceremonial

while drastically over weighting a few for a horse race.

[daleanime]

33. +1

[jeff47]

35. How about rotate who gets to go first?

Perhaps with regional primaries - CA gets a primary. Some portion of the southeast equal to CA's population gets a primary. And so on.

Would make the rotations much more frequent instead of once every 200 years.

[Recursion]

38. Unfortunately you'll pry the early contests out of Iowa's and NH's cold dead hands

I imagine those two states will do whatever it takes to stay first.

[jeff47]

39. Yeah, they'd fight like hell against it. I'd hope that would be outweighed

by the other 48 states not wanting to be irrelevant.

[roguevalley]

18. muahhahaha! You should be Alaska. Only Hawaii is less lucky in

placement.

[sabrina 1]

41. That's ridiculous. Can something not be done about that? Our elections are a farce, seriously.

[KoKo]

49. NC Primary Date has been Tentatively Moved Up: February 16, 2016

From NC BOE Website:

2016 North Carolina Election Schedule

[2016 North Carolina primary date]

The 2016 North Carolina primaries have tentatively been set for Tuesday February 16th, 2016.

http://north-carolina.state-election.info/#primary_date

[Cali_Democrat]

4. Pass

I won't make up my mind until after the first debate.

[GoneOffShore]

7. Kick & Rec

Though straw polls can mean nothing OR everything.

[Agnosticsherbet]

9. I have not decided yet.

[bigwillq]

11. Sanders (nt)

[madokie]

12. Bernie for sure

our nominee in the general no matter who it washes out to be. I'm a dyed in the skin democratic party man, 100% nothing but. Our worse is mountains better than their best, never forget that

Give Peace a Chance.

[Buzz Clik]

13. I only vote for candidates who know how to shoe a horse.

[Puzzledtraveller]

16. That be Bernie!!

[Buzz Clik]

17. Yeah, sure.

He's practically perfect in every way.

[MuseRider]

28. LOL

Can he sweep a chimney?

[Rex]

14. The winner.

[Puzzledtraveller]

15. BERNIE FTW!!

[Logical]

19. Wow, Hillary doing better than I guessed she would. nt

[OhZone]

20. I will support almost any Democrat over the GOP -

and I like Bernie, but I think Hillary is more likely to win the general. Oh well.

[wildbilln864]

21. k & r! n/t

[Logical]

22. Kick

[Recursion]

23. Undecided, lean O'Malley

I want to see how well Sanders handles a national campaign before I make up my mind about him.

DC's primary is in June, so it probably won't matter.

[Renew Deal]

27. Interesting that the most prominent Hillary supporters are sitting it out.

No way to know how DU really stands.

[Old and In the Way]

29. So many will be bitterly disappointed when their Messiah is not chosen by normal Democrats.

Sorry, love Bernie, but he is not going to be elected by non-DU Democrats. That is reality

[StevieM]

31. I'm a Hillary supporter. But I have to ask why Jim Webb wasn't listed as an option? (eom)

[FSogol]

43. Webb hasn't announced that he will run. He only has an exploratory committee and

has not made any hires or rented any HQ space.

[Onlooker]

34. Hillary

I think it's critical we win this election, and Sanders will be destroyed in an election by corporate America. They would do whatever it takes to stop him. Also, I think it's really critical that this country get out the male mindset and elect a woman, and Hillary is one of the few women on the political scene who can win. She the toughest, gutsiest candidate in either Party whether one agrees with her or not.

[Romulox]

47. Hillary is a warmonger. Bernie is a dove. Which of these two has a "male mindset"???

She the toughest, gutsiest candidate in either Party whether one agrees with her or not.

Well thank goodness that she doesn't have a "male mindset" (like Bernie!)

Er...

[rbnyc]

50. Hillary will be destroyed...

... By all the people who stay home.

I know that Democrats and Repulicans are not the same, but they are becoming more and more the same in some very important ways. People know that both parties are in service to a handful of wealthy elites and liberals are tired of having their votes extorted on the basis of social issues while both parties oversee redistribution of wealth to the few. If Hillary gets the nomination, people will just throw their hands up and stay home.

Bernie will win the votes of democrats, progressives and liberals of all stripes. He will inspire great voter turnout which always favors the left. He will attract the anti establishment vote. He will win.

If you want to beat the republican, support Bernie.

[rhett o rick]

57. I think your support for HRC is for all the wrong reasons. Instead of voting for the person

with the best principles you choose to support the one you think might win. This is exactly how we got where we are, and it sure ain't good. Also you say, "She the toughest, gutsiest candidate in either Party whether one agrees with her or not. " Please think about what you said. You want her solely because she is tough. Margret Thatcher was tough. We need someone to stand up for the 99% and I don't think she will. I know Sen Sanders will. I would rather lose fighting for freedom and liberty than win and lose freedom and liberty.

[Maedhros]

59. I cannot agree enough with this post.

We're being told that we have to elect the 'lesser of two goods' in the Primary, just so we can turn around and elect the 'lesser of two evils' in the General, all for the sake of "electability".

Let's play this out for the long run: if we continue doing this, where will we be in 2024? 2028? 2032? And what will the Democratic Party really represent?

[cui bono]

61. So your argument is not to send the best anti-corporate candidate to the general

because you've already decided that it's no use to try to change things? What a defeatist attitude. So we should just send a corporate candidate even though that's exactly what's wrong with the US?

Also, no, Bernie is tougher and gutsier than Hillary. I don't see her speaking out against the banksters like he does.

As to your "male mindset" comment, that's pretty sexist. So you would discount the best candidate just because he is male? Yikes. I'd love to have a woman president but Hillary is not the right woman. Especially if you are going to use that argument. What are you hoping to avoid by electing a female? War? Hillary is the hawk, Bernie is the dove. Bernie fights for women. And Bernie is fighting for the 99%. I don't see Hillary going against banksters any time soon.

[zappaman]

36. Beats me.

Is the primary coming up shortly?

[LostOne4Ever]

44. Whoever hasn't withdrawn by primary time here in Texas...

[Cheese Sandwich]

45. Bernie if it were held right now. nt

[Romulox]

46. Um, most of us don't get to select the candidate in a Primary. It's over before they get to us. nt

[femmocrat]

48. We have a late primary.

By the time it rolls around, some of these candidates could be drop-outs. I'm taking my time to decide.

I will vote for the party's nominee in the general.

[Proud Public Servant]

56. My sentiments exactly

Our primary is June 12, I believe; pretty sure my vote will be entirely symbolic by that point.

[H2O Man]

53. "Other."

I will definitely participate in the Democratic primary. But, honestly, I do not know which of the candidates I will vote for. I believe that each of the four offers both strengths and weaknesses. And that beats the stuffing out of what the republican party is offering!

[KamaAina]

54. Vote fraud! Vote fraud!

At least one of Hillary's voters is Canadian.

[cantbeserious]

55. I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

[rhett o rick]

58. In other words, if I may, you as the frog in the pot, don't want the choice of a slow boil (ala HRC)

or a fast boil (ala Jeb Fracking Bush), but you'll take your chances trying to jump out of the damn pot (ala Sen Sanders).

Anywayz that's what I think.

[cantbeserious]

62. Roger That - Many Citizens See HRC For What She Is - A Patron Of The Oligarchs

eom

[Pharaoh]

66. yup....

I say jump out while we can!!!!

I can't take no more of this shit!!

[cui bono]

60. FEEL THE BERN!!!

[hrmjustin]

63. Proud Hillary supporter.

[Logical]

68. She is doing better than I expected. She broke 10% finally. nt

[hrmjustin]

69. it is just an internet poll.

[Logical]

71. From a really liberal website. Die hard liberals. Of course she would not do well here. nt

[hrmjustin]

72. Didn't Kucinich do well here? He never got elected.

[Logical]

78. So that's all you're worried about? Policies don't matter I guess, makes....

Sense now,

[hrmjustin]

79. Where did I say policy does not matter? provide a link.

[olddots]

64. I'm ready for Alfred

E.NEWMAN as ussual but I'm voting for Bernie because this isn't the past anymore .

[ellisonz]

70. It's going to be a long election season on DU...

[L0oniX]

73. Obviously ...the candidate that DOESN'T NEED NO STINKING SURROGATE!

[Purrfessor]

80. I think the bigger question is who will you vote for

in the general election if the Democratic nominee is not the Democratic candidate of your choice?

Vote for the Democratic nominee?

Vote for the Republican nominee?

Abstain from voting?

[cherokeeprogressive]

83. Both Sanders and O'Malley.

[Hobo]

84. Looks like the site should be renamed Bernie Underground.....

I thought this was Democratic Underground, not Independent Underground or Progressive Underground.....or Jump on the new shiny thing bandwagon Underground.....Anyhow have at it with all your hopes and dreams. When he crashes and burns........


Hobo

[B Calm]

85. By the time Indiana gets around to voting, the candidate is already chosen.

[Buns_of_Fire]

86. As usual, Vermin Supreme gets no love here, and Pat Paulsen isn't running this year.

So I guess it'll have to be Bernie. But dammit, I REALLY wanted that pony! And Vermin is the only one on record in favor of a comprehensive zombie defense strategy, which the other candidates have refused to take a position on. What are they trying to hide?

[Cheese Sandwich]

88. Only 13 months to go until convention