Is this election really about race?

[Jackpine Radical]

Well, yes, as long as you're talking about the general run of ignorant wingnut teabaggers.

Their leaders, on the other hand, could give a shit less about race except insofar as it provides a handle for manipulating their white sheep. What THEY want is someone who won't interfere with their continuing their rape & pillage of the world. Romney is their guy.

[rurallib]

1. no their leaders care about race and exploiting it to beat Obama.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. That is exactly my point.

[rurallib]

13. sometimes I need a thunk upside the head to get my attention.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

2. white sheep

appears you have made something about race...

sP

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Well, I thought it was a good line.

I first typed just "sheep" & added "white" as an afterthought.

[slackmaster]

10. But of course it's not about race

[CreekDog]

14. you're saying the problem is that we mention race?

that's the problem with civil rights, correct? all these people keep saying that they are treated differently because of their race.

if only they would just be quiet, would that make you happy?

[slackmaster]

17. I think referring to a group of people as "white sheep" rather than white people sounds racist

[CreekDog]

22. they could just call them Republicans

you wouldn't need to mention their race.

you'd already know it.

[Scuba]

5. Certainly the Repukes are using race to stir up votes for their side.

Not all Republicans are racists, but all (OK, most) racists are Republicans.

[EV_Ares]

6. You have hit the nail on the head. Yes this presidential is "indirectly" about race. We have seen

this from the last presidential race & it has never gone away. Obama is a Muslim, Obama is not one of us, Obama is not a christian, etc., he is everything but not one of us. The racist wing nuts have come out of the woodwork since President Obama has been in office because the extremist racists cannot stand the fact that a black man is in office. Now, you are also correct that the leaders of the republican party may not themselves be racist but do you ever see them stopping the hate rhetoric coming out of the radio airwaves or on the tv or at the rallies? No, because as you say they want it and are using "race" for their own purpose.

[Zax2me]

20. Then, good. We win. Did in 2008.

Why would it change? Everything has improved since 2008.

[cali]

7. so then it is about race. Using race in such a way makes one a racist.

Aside from that, I believe some of the leaders are full fledged racists. One way or the other, race is a pretty significant factor in this election.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. Actually, I'm sure you're right at least in some instances.

Perry & Santorum come to mind.

But a lot of the politicians are venal twerps who function only at the sufferance of the real Masters of the Universe, whjo are for the most part invisible to us (as the Koch Brothers wish they still were). I'm really talking about the Powers behind the Politicians. In fact these days the very rich don't mind a person's skin color as long as that person is also wealthy. The divisions are more class-based than race-based, but it's hard to tell the difference because of the high level of confounding of the two variables.

[aikoaiko]

8. only incidentally

People who swing right will grasp onto any possible or imagined "weakness".

[slackmaster]

9. "white sheep"

Stay classy, Jackpine.

[Jackpine Radical]

12. I guess I'd have to GET classy first.

[CreekDog]

15. you mean we can't mention race in reference to the party of Willie Horton, and the Southern Strategy

it's not classy to mention race about that party?

i didn't agree to be colorblind to racism and racial stereotype.

if you think you can convince us that being colorblind means being blind to racism and exploitation of racial stereotypes, you don't know us, us DUers well at all.

[slackmaster]

18. Call them PEOPLE rather than sheep and I'm OK with it

[Zalatix]

16. Yes and now it's also about gender, thanks to the GOP

and it's looking like they're losing that war. Badly.

[Zax2me]

19. If it is, what explains the 2008 victory?

It's not like the country wasn't racist in 2008 and now is.

[heyhoheyho]

21. I say that anything that has to do with a minority has something to do about race.

one ride or the other is going to do or say something to get the other side talking about race.

unless the election is between 2 white people then I feel race will always be brought up.

[adigal]

23. Go look at the Yahoo comment boards and try to tell me "No."

I think for many of those voting against Obama, it is all about race.