Obama Is Crushing Romney In Karl Rove's New Electoral Map

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http://www.businessinsider.com/karl-rove-electoral-map-obama-looking-pretty-2012-5

Karl Rove is out with another electoral map this week, and it shows an even better-looking picture for Barack Obama than Rove's first map.




There are two big differences here for Obama. They come in the swing states of Iowa and Colorado. Colorado is now a lean Obama state, whereas Iowa has moved into the definites. Meanwhile, Romney lost his stranglehold on Montana. So that makes it a complete wash as far as definite states go.
What looks even better for Obama? Arizona is now a toss-up state. This is notable because Democrats have been pushing the idea that they can win the state for the first time since 1996.
All told, with the leans, Obama gained a bit on Romney from the last map: He now leads 290 to 172, up six electoral votes from last time. There are 87 toss-ups, an increase from 82 last time.


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[longship]

1. Wow! The tossups

SC a tossup? TX & GA only lean Romney?

Six months to go but this isn't good for the Mittster.

[XemaSab]

42. I'm wondering if a lot of that isn't

pure, unadulterated anti-Mormon bias.

Between a black guy and a Mormon, you may as well go fishing on election day.

[UTUSN]

2. So KKKarl says even if Mittens takes all toss-ups and leaning-to he don't get 270?

I wish but I don't trust KKKarl for ANYthing.

[cindyperry2010]

3. Other maps i. e. huffingtonpost.com have

him alreadyhaving beaten him realclearpoltics.com has the president at 253already so this is not that close like the media likes to say but go VOTE

[polichick]

4. Yes, with our faulty voting system PLUS gop suppression...

...it's critical that people get registered, get IDs and VOTE!

[bathroommonkey76]

18. Huffpost has Obama with 294.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map

[AnnieK401]

21. Yes thank God

[Baitball Blogger]

5. It always sucked to be Karl Rove.

But it must really suck now.

[liberal N proud]

6. The polls rarely show this view, skewing the way the race looks.

[dickthegrouch]

7. There's still far too much red in that map for any degree of comfort

How can so many people be so deluded?

[AnnieK401]

20. Exactly!

I never know what or who to blame when I hear half the country is or leans Republican. Fox, the conservative radio talk shows, the "Republican" (reptilian) brain, what?

[AverageJoe90]

52. My calculations indicate that......

Even if Romney were to win all the toss-up states and all those just leaning Republican, that he would only have 248 electoral votes....thus losing the election.

[Skidmore]

8. Dayum, and Ralph Reed and Mary Matalin are on the This Week round table right now

saying that Romney is ahead.

Why Ralphie is Stephanopolous' go to guy, I'll never know. Shouldn't he be in prison somewhere? Steph needs to quit dragging these Clinton era people out and start tapping those who are active working instead of actively bloviating.

[AnnieK401]

28. Another example of how the Sun. talk shows have gone Republican

Just as well, I hope as many Republicans are deluded into thinking Romney is winning so they will stay home.

[n2doc]

9. Anyone who thinks SC is a toss up is smokin something funny

And TN, Ky and TX as lean mittens. Ha.

The only way this happens is if the t-baggers and evangelicals stay home.

[klook]

22. Exactly my thoughts

This map must reflect the teahadist loons who think it's still possible for somebody other than rMoney to win the Repuke nomination.

When November comes around they'll vote for whoever the Rethug candidate is. Some of them would just as soon have President Jeffrey Dahmer as they would the Great Socialist Kenyan Homo-loving Black Satan.

[AnnieK401]

24. I'm from GA and if GA is a toss up I'm a billionaire!

[AverageJoe90]

51. Where in GA are you, Annie?

[AnnieK401]

58. Decatur (Atlanta Metro area)

[AnnieK401]

61. But I moved to FL a few yrs ago.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

26. Exactamundo

KKKarl is a KKKrook

[GoCubsGo]

31. And, that may very well happen.

They HATE Romney here--enough that many will either stay home or vote third party. We also have a growing Hispanic population. Throw in all the retired military who live here, many of whom are disgusted with the GOP and their war-mongering, and you have a toss-up. Furthermore, we have no Senators or Governor up for re-election, so there is not as much additional incentive to go out and vote. No right-wing dog-whistles on the ballot, either. I have seen at least two or three polls that have the President within 5 points of Romney. It wouldn't surprise me if that difference shrinks further, especially as things like his foreign bank accounts get brought to the forefront. Even die-hard republicans here are recognizing that Romney is far more "not like us" than is Obama.

[AverageJoe90]

57. I'm beginning to wonder.......

if maybe somebody like Gary Johnson or Ron Paul could end up splitting the vote. Granted, the latter may have a small number of lefties who continue to tag along but already, the majority of his remaining supporters are conservative, or at least right-leaning.

[GoCubsGo]

63. They or the Libertarian certainly could do it in some of these "toss-up" states.

SC and AZ come to mind. I don't think either state has enough tag-along lefties to make any difference. And, the number of disgruntled ex-military will more than make up for them. They also seem to have more than their share of Libertarian/John Bircher types. It will be interesting, that's for sure.

[AverageJoe90]

64. If Ron Paul, or Gary Johnson, runs this year....

Then I betcha either of the two men could potentially split the GOP vote.....maybe not as much as Ross Perot in '92 but if Paul decides to break up his alliance with Romney, or if Gary Johnson runs in his place, then it's very likely.

Ron Paul, in particular, may have had some Progressive support 4 or 5 years ago, but it's become obvious to me that many progressives have become very disillusioned with the man, thanks to his stance on corporate personhood and those old newsletters of his.

[99Forever]

10. Although I wouldn't stop to...

... pee on Rove, if I saw him on fire laying beside the road...

There's no denying that he's got serious political smarts. I tend to believe he is correct on this. Doesn't mean we should let up one bit, but I don't but for one second buy the meme that this race is close, AT ALL. The Lamestream Media is pretending it is so it can cash in, nothing more, nothing less.

[Iliyah]

11. Get out and vote!!!!

I don't trust Rove nor any of the insane party of no - voter suppression jerks' diagrams, predictions, suggestions, forecast, crystall ball, truthtellers, fortune tellers, witches and warlocks, card readers, psychics, Santorum's hatred alongwith religious hatred on their side bulls**t, and anything else cropla....

VOTE, VOTE, VOTE

[AnnieK401]

25. YES!

[DontTreadOnMe]

12. If the Dems would just concentrate on Texas

If we could turn Texas, the Repugs would not win an election for the next 20 years.

The large cities in Texas lean Dem. Only the rural areas go Repug. And as the latino vote grows in Texas, the repugs are digging their own graves.

I wish the Dems could get more organized in Texas. Go for the Governor and Senate seats with celebrities. Go the Arnold type candidate. Pick a Hollywood Liberal from Texas and run them as a moderate.

One state... and it would be all over. You could say the same thing for Florida, but I think the northern area of that state is as redneck as it comes...

[otohara]

13. CO Youth Vote Will Be Big

Yes on 64 will bring them out in big numbers.

[Motown_Johnny]

14. They tend to do this early so they can change later and claim "Momentum".

I know we have a huge electoral advantage this time around but Rove's numbers should always be dismissed out of hand. If we start quoting them now then we will be cornered once they change.

Quoting credible sources is always a good idea.

[AverageJoe90]

56. That is a very good point.

This particular map may not be a disinfo exercise but it is indeed possible that the GOP could try to corner us if we started quoting the early numbers. So yeah, I agree.

[enough]

15. Never never never trust anything from Rove. It's not hard to see why he would be

pushing this right now.

[AverageJoe90]

53. It is for me.

Honestly, I would think that if Rove's organisation were trying to engage in disinfo here, they'd likely have Romney winning 3/4 of the Electoral College or something.
Though it's always possible that they could be overestimating Romney's support as well......TBH, though, neither seems likely.

That said, though, I do believe we need to be vigilant because they COULD start pulling something at any time.

[JDPriestly]

16. This map doesn't look accurate to me.

I think that Obama will win but the victory will be a tough up-hill climb, tougher than this map predicts.

[AverageJoe90]

55. Isn't that what we'd expect Rove to be saying if he was trying to pull something, though?

No offense, but it seems like Karl and Co. would rather have us think that Obama's going to have an extremely hard time winning another election without any Repub dirty tricks.

[Botany]

17. I think Indiana might very well go for President O too

The auto loan (it was not a bailout) saved thousands of jobs there.

[bloomington-lib]

23. I'm not sure how much the auto jobs will influence the conservatives

Here, I've seen conservatives with government jobs talk about the need for cutting govt jobs.

[LiberalFighter]

37. I hope you responded back to them

I didn't think your job was a useful job so yours will likely get cut.

[LiberalFighter]

38. Indiana sure isn't in Romney's pocket.

At worst it is a toss-up. Likely to go Obama. And many of the moderate Republicans are likely fed up with the Republican Party in Indiana.

[Botany]

44. Well the tea bagger the repugs got to run for senate will get the crazy base out but .....

.... indy voters, and republicans that liked Dick Lugar will not be thrilled about
voting for him and so that senate seat is very much in play too. I have read that
Bain Capital under Mitt Romney killed thousands of jobs in the Kokomo region and
let us be honesty Romney is not very likable and a train wreck of a public speaker
so even in conservative Indiana he is going to have a tough time of it.

[LiberalFighter]

48. There is more about Moreduck that Lugar didn't use too.

Should be interesting this summer and fall.

[Tom Poll Master]

19. I've never followed Rove's lead but I may need

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to adjust my very cautiously optimistic electoral map at immizen.com

[Odin2005]

27. OMG, South Carolina is in play? LANDSLIDE ELECTION!!!

SUCK IT, Pigboy!

[Tom Poll Master]

32. That's what I said a while ago, but some don't believe

it's looking that good.

[Arugula Latte]

35. No way, no how.

But, who needs 'em? He's got a nice path to re-election without it.

[JCMach1]

29. Electoral will not favor Romney this cycle at all...

[Tom Poll Master]

33. In Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, and North Carolina

we had the misfortune of suffering a Republican take-over of government that has been characterized by one disastrous over-reach after another. This absolutely will be a factor in 2012. Add that to your calculations for Romney's chances to beat Obama!

[bluestateguy]

30. Romney only up 5 in Tennessee? Bowlshit.

nt

[Dawson Leery]

62. I find that hard to believe.

Of all the potential Rethugs available for this cycle, Obama led only Sarah Palin by 4% in Tennessee.
He trailed all of the other GOP candidates in the states.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

34. Yep. Obama would have to work very hard to lose this snoozer.

Romney's "base" is now white males. He simply can't get enough popular or electoral votes. It's like Mike Tyson against Pee-Wee Mormon.

[iloveObama12]

36. Karl Rove A Scam Artist...Dude Can't Be Trusted

[cindyperry2010]

39. Here is another good one to watch as well

http://electoral-vote.com/

[annabanana]

40. Is this just to rile the base and shake the money tree?

- that's my guess.

[Spazito]

41. That's my guess too...

This is to scare the base to try and get them out to vote. Rove doesn't do anything that isn't politically calculated to benefit the repubs.

I think the President will be re-elected but I sure as hell wouldn't take Rove's word via this 'map' as anything but propaganda.

[SoCalDem]

43. The easiest route to a win

any extra is great, but this will do

[Chan790]

50. More likely to win VA than the split-state NE EC votes.

VA is as safely Democratic as PA is at this point. Too much of the population lives in NoVA, works in DC and is educated; it's an uphill climb for Republicans to win in VA.

[Mr Dixon]

59. Agreed

Agreed in 2008 after I voted and went to work I could not wait to get home and see the results, early on McCain was winning VA I was like WTF? Then the counted Northern VA and it was over just like that LOL Obama 2012

[one_voice]

45. I want to believe this...

but I trust Karl Rove about as far as I can throw him.

[Zalatix]

46. That's what the Repigs get for their war on women.

[Renew Deal]

47. According to this Obama is winning South Carolina?

Is this correct?

[Quixote1818]

49. Texas and Georgia will be blue states in about 10 years. nt

[JI7]

54. if the South Carolina result is Accurate it means some Religious voters might be Sitting out the

election. they of course will not vote for Obama. but they have issues with Romney including him being Mormon. so they might just not vote maybe ?

[adigal]

60. With Illiniois and Iowa going Obama, flyover country is getting smaller and

smaller every time.

Romney would need to win every one of the leaning Romney and toss-up states to win. I don't see that happening.

[Liberal_in_LA]

65. kick