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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 04:58 PM Jun 2015

Do You Feel Wealthier??

-- A rising stock market and climbing home priceshave boosted Americans' net worth to a new high.

The Federal Reserve says the value of Americans' stock holdings, real estate and other assets rose to $84.9 trillion in the first three months of this year. That's up from $83.3 trillion in the final three months of last year.

Stock portfolios rose $487 billion, home values by $503 billion.
http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/Do-You-Feel-Wealthier-307020421.html?device=tablet&c=y


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7 (37%)
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Do You Feel Wealthier?? (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 OP
I will say that my 401k grew expedentially over the Exilednight Jun 2015 #1
On paper I am pretty good yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #11
Only stocks I've still got Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #2
Wealthier on paper, maybe. Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #3
better to be wealthier on paper than poorer on paper. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #23
Indeed. Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #34
My savings and income are at an all time low. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #4
compared to what? Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #5
better than a few years ago Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #17
Our stocks, income and home assessment always do better under any Democrat! leftofcool Jun 2015 #6
My 403b is awesome if I could cash it out today...get back with me in 23 years. ileus Jun 2015 #7
My wife lost her job due to long term illness 2 months ago DJ13 Jun 2015 #8
you have been dealing with a lot. I am so sorry. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #15
Thank you DJ13 Jun 2015 #31
How terrible for you! DawgHouse Jun 2015 #41
The city offers a 10 year loan @ 7% interest DJ13 Jun 2015 #42
another day on the right side of the dirt Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #9
you are very wealthy in the ways that matter Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #16
The way to ask this question is really to poll folks younger than me... Orsino Jun 2015 #10
We're doing quite a bit sharp_stick Jun 2015 #12
I've watched the paper value of my dad's portfolio soar Warpy Jun 2015 #13
I live in L.A. ,the answer is absolutely not olddots Jun 2015 #14
Hell yeah! I just found half of a double cheese pizza in the dumpster! Zorra Jun 2015 #18
seriously? Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #20
No, just making a sarcastic statement about income disparity in America. Zorra Jun 2015 #39
Hocked Mom's Silver To Pay The Rent... Yowzaa !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #19
No, but if each of you send me $19.99 a month for life, I will. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #21
Than I did in, say, March of 2009? Abso-ffffffucking-lutely. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #22
The last place on earth would I get financial advice is on yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #37
Our wealth has been decreasing after one major illness and college for our kids. hunter Jun 2015 #24
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #25
. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #27
We do worse every year. F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #26
Yes, did well last 7 years, market and job-wise. Able to retire reasonably comfortably at age 65.75 HERVEPA Jun 2015 #28
Well I can't afford a house and they just keep going higher and higher Johonny Jun 2015 #29
I am thankful for my job. Texasgal Jun 2015 #30
Since Bush drove the economy into the ditch? zappaman Jun 2015 #32
I'd have dental/medical debt if not for Obamacare. And I have a tiny IRA that goes up KittyWampus Jun 2015 #33
Very peculiar way to word the question . . . markpkessinger Jun 2015 #35
Is that even a word? postatomic Jun 2015 #36
Wealthier but far from wealthy. MineralMan Jun 2015 #38
not really Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #40
I'm still at the age where I want the stock market to be low Recursion Jun 2015 #43

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
1. I will say that my 401k grew expedentially over the
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jun 2015

Past four years, but my pay has stayed the same.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
11. On paper I am pretty good
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jun 2015

I only keep 6 months of funds in my savings and a few thousand in checking. The Mutuals and stocks are more.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Only stocks I've still got
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jun 2015

2.2 shares of Disney in a dividend reinvestment plan, long term unemployed, and last I got appraised, my house is worth 16k or so less than when I bought it.

So no, not really.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
3. Wealthier on paper, maybe.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:15 PM
Jun 2015

I'm sure my house has appreciated, and we gain a little bit a month in our retirement accounts (we're not in the stock market anymore; I think they're bonds or something), but we're on fixed income - social security and my husband's pension - so we stay pretty much the same from year to year.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
34. Indeed.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jun 2015

Our duplex was a foreclosure in 1990 when I bought it for $117,000, after a severe real estate crash here. Now it's appraised at almost $350,000. Every once in a while my husband makes a comment about packing up and moving somewhere Outside, but I say, why would we do that when the tenants pay most of the mortgage? Actually, given current rental rates here, I could get more than the mortgage from them, but I like to rent to family or friends and keep the rent low to help them out.

Getting kicked out of my townhouse in 1990 when my landlady got foreclosed on was one of the most fortunate things that's happened to me in my life. .

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
4. My savings and income are at an all time low.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:46 PM - Edit history (3)

I do not have a stock portfolio and do not own a home, so these increases do not affect me.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. compared to what?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:31 PM
Jun 2015

I am better off then when the economy collapsed. That isn't saying much, but if you are grading on that curve I need to be honest and answer yes.


DJ13

(23,671 posts)
8. My wife lost her job due to long term illness 2 months ago
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jun 2015

I have been disabled since 1998.

4 months back I was diagnosed with Parkinsons in addition to my existing condition.

Now our water well went dry 2 days back, and the city wants $6,000 to allow us to hook up to the existing water system.

No, I dont feel wealthier.

Not one damned bit.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
41. How terrible for you!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:01 PM
Jun 2015

Isn't there any assistance you can get for the water since you are disabled and your wife's unemployment situation?

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
42. The city offers a 10 year loan @ 7% interest
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:36 PM
Jun 2015

Of course they added a few "fees" on the deal, including a back flow valve and a $100 permit fee (that we had to pay upfront...).

That was about the best we could do on such short notice.

Oh and of course with our luck the weather is 100+ days through next week, so I have to scramble to get some water in a barrel from neighbors, then refill the evaporative air conditioner every 2 hours.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,085 posts)
9. another day on the right side of the dirt
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jun 2015

Measuring wealth by a financial balance sheet is futile.

I'm close to 50, healthy and generally happy. I have enough money to do pretty much what I want, but I live well below my means.

My parents are over 80 and still here, and I have a good relationship with them. They are generally healthy (for 80) and have been married for well over 50 years.

My job situation has been stable for well past a decade now, and for the most part I like what I do.

I'm wealthy in so many different ways the financial balance sheet, while constantly improving, is the last thing I consider when judging my "wealth".

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
10. The way to ask this question is really to poll folks younger than me...
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jun 2015

...then compare it to my answers when I was that age.

People tend to accumulate wealth as they age, so there may be a lot of other spurious yes answers.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
12. We're doing quite a bit
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jun 2015

better than we were back in 2008. It's not just the stocks, slowly we're starting to feel a little more secure at work. We've had fewer layoffs and haven't seen a hiring freeze in over a year.

Still keeping my fingers crossed though.

Warpy

(114,580 posts)
13. I've watched the paper value of my dad's portfolio soar
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 07:02 PM
Jun 2015

since Stupid wrecked the economy in 2008. However, last year was the first year there was any increase in earnings.

I don't live by the per share price, I live by the stock earnings. I used to have interest thrown in there, too, but the Fed has screwed that pooch.

If it holds together until I croak, Doctors Without Borders will get a very nice chunk of change. I don't think it's going to hang together much longer, though. There is too much fraud, too much skimming going on. Something's got to give and it's going to.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. Hell yeah! I just found half of a double cheese pizza in the dumpster!
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:23 PM
Jun 2015

No mold on it, either!

I'm rich!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
39. No, just making a sarcastic statement about income disparity in America.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jun 2015

"Wealth" is a relative term.

Solly Mack

(96,901 posts)
21. No, but if each of you send me $19.99 a month for life, I will.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jun 2015

But wait! You'll get 2 - Yes! 2! - Thank you notes a month in return.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. Than I did in, say, March of 2009? Abso-ffffffucking-lutely.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:43 PM
Jun 2015

I wish I'd had some money to put in the stock market back then, when I got yelled at on DU for timidly suggesting "hey, maybe now might be a good time to buy"

THE STOCK MARKET IS AT 6000? IT'S GONNA BE AT 300 BEFORE THIS IS ALL OVER MARK MY WORDS YOU FOOL etc. etc.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
37. The last place on earth would I get financial advice is on
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jun 2015

DU. Although I love it here for politics, to many negative posts with regards to financial information. The best person to listen to with regards to financial decisions is yourself. The gut says all.

hunter

(40,667 posts)
24. Our wealth has been decreasing after one major illness and college for our kids.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jun 2015

I simply don't care any more.

Piss on wall street, and I don't treat our home or any other material thing as an "investment."

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
26. We do worse every year.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:07 PM
Jun 2015

Bunch of crap--inequality is only getting worse. Shit's getting real, people, time to wake up. Our system is about as screwed as it can get.

Change is in the air, and it's not a happy one now.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
28. Yes, did well last 7 years, market and job-wise. Able to retire reasonably comfortably at age 65.75
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:12 PM
Jun 2015

Can't do everything I'd like in retirement, but can do enough.
An sorry for those in a less fortunate situation.

Johonny

(26,105 posts)
29. Well I can't afford a house and they just keep going higher and higher
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:19 PM
Jun 2015

Who the * can buy them? My salary meanwhile barely creeps at cost of living. Sure in the stock market I've done well but I can't buy a house on my retirement.

Texasgal

(17,240 posts)
30. I am thankful for my job.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:23 PM
Jun 2015

That's more than some have. I also live pretty frugally which helps.

Gotta take some good with the bad I guess. Being wealthy does not appeal to me, being able to live and feed my family with a few luxuries is golden. IE: internet, car and some cable.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
33. I'd have dental/medical debt if not for Obamacare. And I have a tiny IRA that goes up
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015

with the Market.

markpkessinger

(8,908 posts)
35. Very peculiar way to word the question . . .
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:49 PM
Jun 2015

I mean, "Do I 'feel' wealthier?" I'm not sure I remember how wealthy I used to 'feel.' If you ask me, "Are you wealthier," to that question I can answer an unequivocal 'No.'

The poll is asking for a subjective answer to what is fundamentally an objective question. So, what's up with that wording?

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
36. Is that even a word?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:47 PM
Jun 2015

Well, my internal spell check is good with it, so....

No, I don't feel wealthier. But I'm still happy. Can't take that from me.

MineralMan

(151,180 posts)
38. Wealthier but far from wealthy.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jun 2015

Since 2008, my income is up, since the economy has improved. The value of my home has returned to what I paid for it in 2004, after serious declines due to GWB.

However, my retirement investments had to be liquidated due to not having enough work, so I'll get to work until I die, most likely.

I have GWB to blame for the decline and Barack Obama for the recovery. Life continues apace. I'm still not wealthy, and will never be, but I'm in a better position today than I was in 2008.

Thanks, Mr. President!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
43. I'm still at the age where I want the stock market to be low
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:50 AM
Jun 2015

Because my IRA is buying stocks and I'd like them to be cheap when I do that.

I have noticed that dividends are doing pretty well, though that's mostly my refusal to invest in a stock simply for resale value (a stock without a dividend is a baseball card).

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