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UPDATE: Newsweek forwards the following preview for Sullivan's piece:
Its easy to write off President Obamas announcement of his support for gay marriage as a political ploy during an election year. But dont believe the cynics. Andrew Sullivan argues that this announcement has been in the making for years. When you step back a little and assess the record of Obama on gay rights, you see, in fact, that this was not an aberration. It was an inevitable culmination of three years of work. And President Obama has much in common with the gay community. He had to discover his black identity and then reconcile it with his white family, just as gays discover their homosexual identity and then have to reconcile it with their heterosexual family, Sullivan writes.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/05/newsweek-cover-the-first-gay-president-123283.html
monmouth
(21,078 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,881 posts)Not sure why they titled their cover such.
demosincebirth
(12,536 posts)Alcibiades
(5,061 posts)Also, if some bigoted low-information voters get the impression that Obama is gay, that's just a bonus for the corporate shills who run Newsweek.
They are pretty irresponsible with regard to their covers, regularly issuing distortions that are the modern version of yellow journalism. For one cover, they age-progressed princess Diana to mark her death, for another, they asked "Is your baby racist?", etc. Then there's this:
But they one I think they are actually referencing is the Sarah Palin "Saint Sarah" cover, in which they give her a halo. I guess they can figure if they can gin up sales by putting a halo on Palin, why not Obama?
Sure, the Atlantic sometimes does these things, too, but they don't have Newsweek's circulation. And, while their editors can credibly claim that the readers get it, that's not true of Newsweek: a lot of conservatives loved the "Saint Sarah" pic, even though it was obviously intended to be ironic.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)tru
(237 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)In other words, not meant to be taken literally.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,881 posts)However most people won't get it.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Even figuratively.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002687543
Bake
(21,977 posts)Duh.
Bake
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)....as Clinton was the first "black" President. It's not literal, and even if it were, who cares!!
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)PCIntern
(25,518 posts)I know..I'm dreaming...a well-meaning fourth grade student was allowed to write the copy for the cover of an internationally distributed magazine...or...DC Comics has a new Bizarro World mag disguised for April Fools...
Jesus...no, i'm awake. Did someone tell Michelle about this, or like Rudy Giuliani's wife, who apparrently didn't know she was getting a divorce, did she have to hear this stuff from the media?
tridim
(45,358 posts)The next 4 years are going to be amazing.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)I'm not entirely sure most people will "get it".
PB
PCIntern
(25,518 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)...but it's going to cause the same sort of "Whaaa?" reaction from people that that goddamned awful New Yorker cover did, with Obama and his wife dressed up like terrorists, fist-bumping in the Oval Office did.
PB
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I know what I am going to have to confront next time I visit some family members.
I predict we will see the study about homophobes being in the closet expounded upon, and a long lost lover emerge.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Especially since he is the actual first black President.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)I should have "got it". Perhaps I saw red when I saw that bloviating pop-in-jay Andrew Sullivan's name.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)GO! Bama!
gateley
(62,683 posts)G_j
(40,366 posts)the general public will. I suppose the idea is that people buy the mag to read further.
I thought that was pretty obvious.
malthaussen
(17,184 posts)n/t
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Unless you're implying that she'd be worried about people speculating about her husband's sexuality now that Newsweek has put the words "First Gay President" under her husband's picture...in which case, I myself wouldn't give a rip if I were her.
malthaussen
(17,184 posts)Rather, I wonder if she'll be more amused or outraged at the presumption.
-- Mal
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)My point is that there's nothing to something printed in the media unless something is made of it.
I think she'll shrug it off as the MSM, at best, taking another opportunity to try to provoke speculation and reaction.
ruggerson
(17,483 posts)That Newsweek, albeit in a satirical way, is floating the idea that her husband may possibly go down in history as a leader who helped push the envelope on marriage equality for LGBT Americans.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Vanje
(9,766 posts)ruggerson
(17,483 posts)while most everyone was fine with the media pronouncing Clinton "the first black President."
JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)Good for Newsweek.
MH1
(17,595 posts)the least bit of remorse about the incident.
spanone
(135,816 posts)fuck newsweek....the wingers will only see the headline....and believe it.
jenmito
(37,326 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)The first black president was white and now the first gay president is straight.
So here are my predictions for the future:
The first female president will be male. The first Jewish president will be Catholic. The first Muslim president will be an atheist. And the first atheist president will be Jewish.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)The difference is that you can tell a person's race simply by looking at them. You CANNOT tell a person's sexual orientation just by looking at them. This makes a person's sexual orientation a dangerous weapon in the world of slander.
Being gay in and of itself is not a bad thing, but there IS a problem if a gay man marries a woman and they have had children together! This means that the man selfishly used the unsuspecting woman to try and appear as if he was something he's not. Remember Jim McGreevey in New Jersey?
I just got off the phone with Newsweek and expressed my profound disappointment with their slanderous and misleading cover. If anybody else wants to do the same, the number is 1-800-631-1040.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,881 posts)Toni Morrison and Chris Rock are two that come mind.
JI7
(89,244 posts)the same can happen with Obama and it's a good thing.
deaniac21
(6,747 posts)to describe himself.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)She was expressing disgust over Clinton being consistently slammed as being uppity. Not for any pro-African American community policies.
--People misunderstood that phrase. I was deploring the way in which President Clinton was being treated, vis-à-vis the sex scandal that was surrounding him. I said he was being treated like a black on the street, already guilty, already a perp. I have no idea what his real instincts are, in terms of race. (Emphasis mine).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/08/toni-morrison-on-calling_n_100761.html
Shedding light on Toni Morrison's characterization of Clinton as "our first black President."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002687543
gateley
(62,683 posts)Bok_Tukalo
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Bruce Wayne
(692 posts)UTUSN
(70,674 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)UTUSN
(70,674 posts)Ruben NAVARRETTE, whom I also regard as a traitor to his own home group (Hispanics), doesn't speak for his group, is always running after Rethugs adoringly, always ragging on Dems, always lecturing Dems on what they should do and who Dem candidates should be.
And, if anybody brings up how SULLIVAN later had an awakening about Shrub, I say, why would his poor judgment to begin with make him somebody to look to, since just about everybody here knew the correct answer about Shrub from before the beginning?!1
So, who does SULLIVAN speak for and why would this or any Dem president pick him as somebody to crowd out his reading time?
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Go figure.
If you think Sullivan is always running after Ruthugs adoringly, you must not read him regularly. He doesn't hide his contempt for them.
Alcibiades
(5,061 posts)Sometimes I think his mistake was coming over here and assuming the GOP was an American version of the Tories. At least he admitted his mistake on Iraq, though, something a real American conservative never would.
UTUSN
(70,674 posts)If I can conduct a decades long vendetta for Tweety over his RAYGUN-Shrub-Mc5planes love, I can certainly do forever/NEVER for SULLIVAN.
My point is, when all of us here KNEW what Shrub was, didn't even dream how much WORSE he would be, from the beginning, how come such an oh-so-smart SULLIVAN thought otherwise WHEN IT COUNTED?!1
Alcibiades
(5,061 posts)1. I'm a conservative
2. I'm a thoughtful person
3. other conservatives are thoughtful people
It's projection. I know he's a green card holder now, but someone like Sullivan cannot really understand American conservatism. He may believe that there is some relationship between conservative political theory as it's practiced at American colleges and universities and how these gentlemen actually govern. He is capable of understanding someone like Bush Sr., but never W.
JI7
(89,244 posts)tblue37
(65,290 posts)not only is he a Marxist/Leninist/Kenyan/Muslim terrorist, but he is also--OMG!!--gay. They will know it's true, because it ison the cover of freakin' Newseek Magazine!
They are not going to get the point.
Unfortunately, some bigots who might otherwise vote for Obama will also be turned against him because of this. I absoutely wish that our society were mature enough and decent enough to elect a gay president--or a woman president, for that matter--but I do not think it is.
Of course, I also wish I could trust the American people in general to udnerstand what is meant by this cover.
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)Unfortunately for all of us, they do.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)Yavin4
(35,432 posts)They could have had him suckling the nipple of another man on the cover.
rucky
(35,211 posts)It's amazing that news weeklies have lasted this long.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)There are some really disturbed people out there...
Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)Disturbed at seeing the word "gay" next to the word "president," one must suppose.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)demosincebirth
(12,536 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)much more effective then those glossy Weekly Standard pages.
JI7
(89,244 posts)i would have preferred something like Obama with a smile and maybe some rainbow flag background . or even something like Obama and a Gay Couple getting married.
greyl
(22,990 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)legalize or even decriminalize weed, next Newsweek will be calling him something like "the first Dope Fiend president". With a cover like this one about "the first gay president", the possibilities are endless.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Neither is he a saint, nor is he gay. Newsweek is no longer a reliable news magazine.
Besides, Obama hedged his bet. He endorsed gay marriage, but left it up to the states to legalize it. Does he plan to do anything at the federal level?
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)in history for Gay Rights--certainly more than Bill Clinton!!
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)And that is what this magazine cover portrays. I am pro-women's rights, but that doesn't make me a woman, per se.
This cover is just the garbage the social conservatives need to rally their closed-minded bigots to get out and vote this year. You can expect to see this photo on countless mailfliers sent out by the Christian Coalition, the Family Research Council, and The 700 Club.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I think that it was a good thing that Obama came out for gay marriage, but for all practical purposes little will change.
emulatorloo
(44,109 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)twits
Beacool
(30,247 posts)This week's issue where a kid is breastfeeding, who is tall enough to be standing while he's suckling, caused enough of a stir.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)...ARE you ready to eat jellyfish?
Huh?
Huh?
Rex
(65,616 posts)EGGXACTLY!
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)Any uneducated moron who sees this magazine while standing in line at Wal-Mart will believe "Oh, the president's gay", just like the birthers took that erroneous headline in a Kenyan newspaper which read, "Kenyan-born Obama All Set for U.S. Senate", at face value.
This is grounds for a lawsuit.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)1) being gay is not a bad thing.
2) this was a play off of Bill Clinton being called the first black president.
It' not slander.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)Falsely saying a man is a homosexual when he is married to a woman and has had minor-aged children with her is 100% slander.
Right-wingers will have a field day with this magazine cover just as birther lunatics had with that Kenyan newspaper's erroneous headline in 2004 which said "Kenyan-Born Obama All Set for U.S. Senate."
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)But this magazine cover is suggesting that a married man with kids is a homosexual. It does NOT give good vibes, especially to the not-so-well-educated portion of swing voters.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Everyone knows he is not gay. Everyone knew Clinton wasn't black. Your meltdown is saying far more about you then anything.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)THE IDEA OF A REPUBLICAN TAKEOVER OF THE FEDERAL GOV'T THIS NOVEMBER.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Oral is slander. Print is libel. Since Newsweek is print then the term you want is libel.
It still isn't grounds for a lawsuit. As a person rises in public prominence the bar for libel also rises. Once you are President then folks can say or print anything they want about you.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)#1 - It is a riff on Bill Clinton being the first black President. Obviously, Clinton was not black, but it was his empathy with the Black community to the point that many African Americans believed he really got how they felt and what their needs were that earned him the title "First black President".
#2 - Being gay is not a bad thing and that was part of the whole point of the President announcing he is for equality in marriage. This is not an attempt at slander or to harm the President. If anything, Newsweek is signaling support for the President's stance on marriage equality. I get called gay and slurs against gays a lot for articles and videos supporting equal rights and when I do comment on such things, that is exactly how I respond. "I dont consider being gay a bad thing so what you said doesn't make me feel attacked at all". Boom. The end.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)1) You can tell a person's race simply by looking at them. You CANNOT tell a person's sexual orientation just by looking at them. This makes a person's sexual orientation a dangerous weapon in the world of slander.
2) Being gay may not be a bad thing in and of itself, but there IS a problem if a gay man is married to a woman and they have had children together! This means that the man selfishly used the woman to try and appear as if he was something he's not.
I just got off the phone with Newsweek and expressed my profound disappointment with their slanderous and misleading cover. If anybody else wants to do the same, the number is 1-800-631-1040.
TriMera
(1,375 posts)BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)You think there's nothing wrong with a homosexual man marrying an unsuspecting straight woman and using her as a "cover" for his sexual orientation (even having children with her) and then afterwards saying, "Sorry honey, I'm gay and you've been married to a homosexual all these years."
Homosexuality isn't the problem here, it's self-centeredness and insecurity. And Newsweek's cover, whether or not they meant to do so, portrays the president as being one of those self-centered and insecure individuals.
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)This is Newsweek looking for big sales at the President's expense. If they just used the headline, then I don't think there's really a problem (except that the teabaggers will start spouting "OMG!!!! He's Muslim AND he's not a natural born citizen AND he's gay!!!!). But a halo? Really? When you put the halo and the headline all together, it comes across as mocking Obama with a really over-the-top image. I'm bi, and *I* would be offended if someone made an image like that of me.
The headline gives a nod to Clinton being called the first Black president (which was also weird and inaccurate, though not offensive). It could be kind of clever, but only to people who actually remember that reference. On anyone else it's lost, and the headline gets read literally. But WTF is up with the halo, rainbow or otherwise? It's like they're setting the cover up to go viral across every right-wing email blast for the next 6 months.
Bruce Wayne
(692 posts)James K. Polk was our first Mexican president.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Cleita
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when the media tried to smear him with it.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Politicos took 3 words out of context and turned them in to an advertising campaign.
Shedding light on Toni Morrison's characterization of Clinton as "our first black President."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002687543
Her own explanation in 2008:
--People misunderstood that phrase. I was deploring the way in which President Clinton was being treated, vis-à-vis the sex scandal that was surrounding him. I said he was being treated like a black on the street, already guilty, already a perp. I have no idea what his real instincts are, in terms of race. (Emphasis mine).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/08/toni-morrison-on-calling_n_100761.html
Proles
(466 posts)gay socialist, Kenyan Muslim terrorist, and Antichrist who eats dogs?
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)The birthers, conspiracy-theorist nutjobs, and every other right-wing retard in America are dancing on Cloud Nine over this.
donquijoterocket
(488 posts)And black, and a Democrat, all cardinal sins in the wingers catechism.Anyone who will not vote for the president as a result of this cover was not going to vote for him anyway.Wish this had been an unqualified endorsement but it at least moves the debate in the proper direction.
emulatorloo
(44,109 posts)They've gotten about all the wingnut talking points in to one image.
Great for Michelle Bachmann to fundraise off of, maybe it is a peace offering to make up for the crazy eyes cover.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)There's going to be nothing left to read at the checkout but holiday food issues and home decorating tips at this rate...
TriMera
(1,375 posts)disappointing to this LGBT American.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)But I live in a state full of knuckle-dragging, mouth breathing, slack-jawed morons. Irony and subtlety are lost on them. They not only believe there is something wrong with being gay, but they'll believe Obama is gay himself, despite the wife and two kids. They're going to have a field day with this.
Bruce Wayne
(692 posts)Now, wait... that was TIME.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,169 posts)As has been mentioned, not only is he being called gay, but also is crowned with a halo.
I can't think of a more flame-bait cover for freepers and baggers everywhere. It feeds into the "morans" out there who believe any hetro man that stands up for his gay brothers by supporting gay marriage must be "faggot" himself. (That's speaking from their mindset, not mine, if I have to say)
And then the icing on the cake is the halo. Just one more element to send them over the moon. They'll infer that the "librul media" is sainthooding him, with the Whitehouse's blessing of course.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)...photo edited to look extremely, extremely black...and sinister. Now as a hallowed gay guy? Calculated and disgusting. I am temporarily in a very red state, after decades in a blue state. This above post is absolutely correct.
I think they are getting back at him for a joke at the WHCD...What is black and white and red all over? Nothing much, anymore.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Or she's on her way to doing it, like she did with many of the other publications she ran.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)Patiod
(11,816 posts)My 88 yo dad took it literally: "the President is gay???!!!"
I told him it was probably the same thing as Clinton being "the first black president".
Here's my take: those who see it as a slur weren't going to vote for him anyway.
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)Those who take this literally are probably too stupid and too Republican anyway (same thing, isn't it?). They were never going to vote for Obama to begin with. I cannot see why people are making a big deal over this.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)When I wore a shirt to school my mom bought for me it was "gay". When another kid got his hair with bangs that was "gay". When an friend of mine had to go home early because his grandma was in town, that was "gay". When I drew pictures of animals on my folders (instead of rock band logos) that was "gay"...and so on.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,169 posts)I thought it was about Obama's evolution to realizing that all Americans should be equal when it comes to marriage. Gays and Lesbians just happen to be the ones left out.
Totally inflammatory in order to stir up the Christian Taliban and the insecure bigots.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)ecstatic
(32,679 posts)is that blacks really like(d) Clinton. From reading DU, I'm under the impression that the LGBT community isn't very fond of President Obama.
Skrewdriver
(10 posts)to further her political career. I was glad to see that love affair end, because the Clinton's have never done anything for blacks. Furthermore, I don't recall any major magazines with an image of Clinton as a black president. I agree with those who say this is slander for newsweek to sell mags at the expense of the president. There is nothing wrong with being gay, but there is something wrong with calling a straight man gay on the cover of a magazine. This could potentially be used against Obama with those who support him, but don't agree with his gay marriage stance. I hate Andrew Sullivan, he's nothing but a wolf in sheep's clothing, he is not an Obama supporter.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Now that's funny. Complete bullshit, but funny.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)If anything, the race card was used against the Clintons and very effectively I might add.
As for the Clintons having done nothing for blacks, are you for real?????????? During the Clinton presidency 22 million jobs were created and more AA were lifted out of poverty than in previous decades. What has Obama done for AA? Other than mostly ignore them, except when he needs their votes. Remember the complaints from the Congressional Black Caucus?
Furthermore, who do you think benefits the most from the Clinton foundation? There are thousands of people in Africa who are alive today thanks to Bill's foundation.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)It seems intended to polarize rather than unite people, the old divide and conquer tactic.
Not to mention, there may have been a few gay Presidents!