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Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:22 PM Jun 2015

OK, Bitches. I'm Back!

(As Skinner reaches for his Xanax.)

I've taken a break for 6 months, tried other sites and found out they were just as sucky as this one. Who knew? I'm goin' with the devil I know as opposed to the devil I don't.

So, Bernie Sanders declared. Yay! A REAL Democrat. And he's gaining the Big Mo!

And there's Hillary, hiding in her bunker keeping strangely silent about the TPP (except to say it is the "gold standard" of trade agreements while she was SOS). Such a leader! (Not!)

And for the people who gave me Valentine's hearts in February, thank you, my lovelies!

Hugs and kisses and let the flame wars begin!:
LTH



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OK, Bitches. I'm Back! (Original Post) Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 OP
Glad you're back! Lifelong Protester Jun 2015 #1
Thank you, darlin'. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #5
heheh blm Jun 2015 #2
And to the "pragmatists" on the board: Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #8
LOL….Linda Ronstadt told me to tell you….. blm Jun 2015 #22
Fear? Nah. calimary Jun 2015 #114
I think you are being redundant. Pragmatism, at least here, means afraid. Welcome back. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #332
Uh, oh. Is someone going to alert on that OP use of words? mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #3
Probably, DU has a record number of prissy word jumpers right now Warpy Jun 2015 #10
I know, right? cwydro Jun 2015 #12
Hey, Warpy! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #21
see any of the old timers from around here on your travels? nt orleans Jun 2015 #239
Yeah MissDeeds Jun 2015 #57
Fluid and fibrous GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #84
Actually, a little fiber in their diets is what some of those alerters need. hifiguy Jun 2015 #138
They just have to visualize further than oceans. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #208
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink; Say no more! hifiguy Jun 2015 #219
I was thinking a little Turbolax might help. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #321
My nieces friends call each other ho-bag biotches. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #97
Oh brother, is that ever the Dog's honest truth. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #118
They're pissed off cause DU has turned into Bernie Underground. L0oniX Jun 2015 #155
Hey Lo0niX, are we crazy because we hifiguy Jun 2015 #241
You should be a little understanding. Policy is so much harder than personalities. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #333
Ba-zing. hifiguy Jun 2015 #334
How appropos would that be? Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #11
100%! kentauros Jun 2015 #18
I would be astounded if the alert was not already sent. jeff47 Jun 2015 #20
Wait. Wait. Wait. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #23
Yes, apparently spoonerisms about slang for female genitalia is a banworthy offense. jeff47 Jun 2015 #48
Oh yeah, last week. It was epic. notadmblnd Jun 2015 #211
That was probably the stupidest ban I've ever seen. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #322
They did. kentauros Jun 2015 #33
The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended strike again. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #38
You survived the jury. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #60
There are many here among us who are sarchasm challenged. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #63
The results. I'm #2. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #67
#6 kentuck Jun 2015 #73
I love jury duty when it's that easy. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #79
Responding to those kind of alerts is like shooting fish in the proverbial barrel. hifiguy Jun 2015 #141
I'm a very old Feminist, and I am NOT offended. Something seriously disturbing about this gen's 2banon Jun 2015 #192
As a 60 year old feminist, I agree with you completely. SalviaBlue Jun 2015 #200
The working class femme's fatales nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #235
The Witchfinders General need to be driven hifiguy Jun 2015 #243
Agree totally. peacebird Jun 2015 #251
I'm with you! Hear, Here! 2banon Jun 2015 #283
Yes, it's about time the majority of the women here got a chance to talk about REAL WOMEN'S issues sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #299
You're right, Sabrina. polly7 Jun 2015 #303
Sssshhh, not supposed to talk about women in Foreign Countries, or how they are affected sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #306
Oops. polly7 Jun 2015 #358
Sadly it's so much easier to protect a targeted group by censoring words than rhett o rick Jun 2015 #348
I wish it had ended a long time ago. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #370
I quietly left for a year-plus hifiguy Jun 2015 #371
We're glad you decided to come back! nt. polly7 Jun 2015 #373
I left for three months on two different occasions. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #375
It's still a head-scratcher why you don't let people call you a stupid R B Garr Jun 2015 #249
Well because the attacks were not anything like this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #269
this place transformed into "discussion management" ages ago. NuttyFluffers Jun 2015 #355
Correct nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #363
Interesting. JTFrog Jun 2015 #270
Well he gets offended nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #271
It's ok for you, but not for DU... JTFrog Jun 2015 #272
It is community standards baby nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #273
You will see and get out of this site what you want... JTFrog Jun 2015 #276
Well I posted yesterday nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #279
I thought DU stated up front it was a partisan site. JTFrog Jun 2015 #284
People have noted, not just me, nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #287
Absolute freak out? LOL NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #311
Actually I did not see much of that, calling for the woman to be fired, I saw the opposite. Lots of sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #300
Let's see if I got this correct. You can't see the difference between the anti-Semetic attack rhett o rick Jun 2015 #329
That's a completely different use of the word and a completely different situation. cui bono Jun 2015 #301
I don't know anything about Nadin's blog... NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #316
The problem as I see it is that this is intended to be a politically liberal message board. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #331
Hey...how about giving me a trigger warning next time? The word Yahoo bothers me. ;) DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2015 #356
Sorry I didn't see it on the list. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #361
Yep, I've always believed freedom of speech and expression... NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #367
It's not necessary to throw out civility when we have liberal freedom of expression. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #377
The B word can both be used pejoratively or as a term of endearment among comrades in arms 2banon Jun 2015 #274
The church of the eternally offended nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #275
Ya know! Life is just way toooo short.. 2banon Jun 2015 #280
Well you have a clear split nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #282
Love this paragraph... SMC22307 Jun 2015 #338
Thanks.. and yes.. I think this "dynamic" needs a deeper level of discussion. 2banon Jun 2015 #339
What you said! n/t dgibby Jun 2015 #255
I wish we could really discuss this here. I appreciate your view and agree. In some cases rhett o rick Jun 2015 #314
That's it in a nutshell. polly7 Jun 2015 #317
Yes, Hear! Here! Well Said.. 2banon Jun 2015 #325
Yes some of the problem is authoritarianism, which I think enters into a lot of rhett o rick Jun 2015 #327
The title alone articulates the problem exactly 2banon Jun 2015 #320
You are being nice phrasing it like that. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #347
Comfy chair/fainting couch/clutchable pearls/smelling salts Divernan Jun 2015 #111
Evidently you never watched Monty Python. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #175
Yes, a real "whoosh!" On that one! kath Jun 2015 #225
"The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended strike again" ! :) 2banon Jun 2015 #187
The Brothers and Sisters of the Church of Easily, Perpetually and Frequently Outraged and Offended. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #222
Lordy lu, that was brilliant! hifiguy Jun 2015 #245
Yeah, I laughed when I read the MRA types alert on the word 'douchebags' R B Garr Jun 2015 #246
Couldn't have said it better myself! 2banon Jun 2015 #285
Thank you. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #288
let's hope it doesn't devolve there. :) 2banon Jun 2015 #289
Hat tip sir, BRILLIANT nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #290
"You're lucky I'm Church of England!" kentauros Jun 2015 #195
They never let up, do they? Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #318
"You'd think that much outrage would wear a person out after a while." NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #326
OMG, they alerted???? Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #39
I hope so! kentauros Jun 2015 #41
"OMG, they alerted????" NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #70
And I'm a guy pintobean Jun 2015 #71
I assumed the same thing. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #107
Psst. Just don't call the MRA types "douchebags", because R B Garr Jun 2015 #244
Seriously, I think you have. pintobean Jun 2015 #250
Seriously, you are one of his biggest fans. Just don't say "douchebag", R B Garr Jun 2015 #254
That member has only one post hidden for that pintobean Jun 2015 #262
LOL, like that is the only "list". There were others, as you know R B Garr Jun 2015 #263
Sounds like a self control issue pintobean Jun 2015 #265
Who and what are you even talking about? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #324
I must not be an MRA type then. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #307
I think it can be mythology Jun 2015 #224
glad you are back Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #76
As I used to tell the mostly male court referred clients in evening group.... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #91
Blammo. hifiguy Jun 2015 #145
ROFLMAO Playinghardball Jun 2015 #102
I Want one!!! 2banon Jun 2015 #194
I know. Right? notadmblnd Jun 2015 #214
I knew it! mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #53
Some people are extremely conservative and rigid in their thinking. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #202
I wonder if those who throw around the word 'misogynist' so freely that it has lost any meaning btw, sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #209
How DARE you bring up real world issues?! hifiguy Jun 2015 #220
Like really nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #238
You and Sabrina are two of hifiguy Jun 2015 #240
Excuse to post this: Hissyspit Jun 2015 #293
Hahaha Stinky The Clown Jun 2015 #319
OK, I've just GOT to share. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #330
Woot! polly7 Jun 2015 #335
I thought so. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #336
+ a Brazilian. hifiguy Jun 2015 #343
Hi hifi! polly7 Jun 2015 #354
A long drink of crystalline, ice cold spring water hifiguy Jun 2015 #364
Kick pintobean Jun 2015 #337
I absolutely agree with the overuse of the misogyny tag. kentauros Jun 2015 #341
Ooooooooohh...... opiate69 Jun 2015 #357
You won't get very long odds on that bet. hifiguy Jun 2015 #365
I challenge the person to whom that brilliance was directed to speak up and respond. I ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #372
Yeah be careful with that word newfie11 Jun 2015 #64
B& Gregorian Jun 2015 #4
I love it! Cooley Hurd Jun 2015 #6
Thank you m'dear. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #13
I know……. blm Jun 2015 #25
seems as though humor has been banned marym625 Jun 2015 #256
I'm glad you're back! CrawlingChaos Jun 2015 #7
Thank you. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #15
Welcome back malaise Jun 2015 #9
Hey, Mal! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #16
Let the million flowers bloom. WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #14
Hey, WP. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #17
Lean, mean and green. WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #19
*runs phrase through anagram generator to make sure it's not pro-rape* MisterP Jun 2015 #123
Welcome the fuck back cali Jun 2015 #24
ROFLMAO! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #27
And we will in the future, too cali Jun 2015 #77
Lookin' forward to it, sistah! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #113
Glad to have you back. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #26
Thank you, AK. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #28
here you go ... take your pick AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #54
Thank you! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #61
Tsk. Don't you know Bernie is a racist and hifiguy Jun 2015 #247
You've been away so you probably don't know this, but 'Bernie has messy hair'. Lol! sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #304
Stone cold sober? Iggo Jun 2015 #29
Now, I think we both know better . . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #31
...as a matter of fact. Iggo Jun 2015 #34
Back from where? JaneyVee Jun 2015 #30
Wandering the iternetz . . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #35
"It doesn't exist"... NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #100
and a hearty Welcome the fuck back from me too ! olddots Jun 2015 #32
Well, then, I'm in my element. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #37
Good! pintobean Jun 2015 #36
Hey, pinto. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #42
like a Union Jack? hfojvt Jun 2015 #40
or like herpes . . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #44
hi nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #43
I like your style. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2015 #45
Ah, has DU been tempoarily taken over by the Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #47
Ooooh! You said a BAD word, bvar22 Jun 2015 #46
They already alerted on me Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #50
I've never even heard of that movie. Is it any good? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #87
I wouldn't put it in the top 10, bvar22 Jun 2015 #295
I'll check it out then. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #308
Wonderful boston bean Jun 2015 #49
I sense sarcasm in your post. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #58
Now, now, Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #72
I know exactly how you feel. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #92
Refreshing, isn't it?! nt. polly7 Jun 2015 #74
Very refreshing, and makes you feel like maybe you are in the real world here after all. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #302
That's exactly what it feels like. polly7 Jun 2015 #305
Oh, THERE you are. Refer upthread, there's an interesting exchange you may be interested in. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #374
Welcome back! We need a few more hell-raisers around here. kentuck Jun 2015 #51
Hey, kentuck! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #75
You too! kentuck Jun 2015 #82
OMG, now I'm scarified! countryjake Jun 2015 #52
Holy cripes! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #83
That kid is something else. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #98
She's great! kentuck Jun 2015 #143
! MerryBlooms Jun 2015 #55
Now who are you again? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #56
Funny, I was going to say the same thing about you . . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #85
Welcome back Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #59
Thank you, Jack Rabbit. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #88
Thank god Alittleliberal Jun 2015 #62
Thank you. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #90
Please pass the butter! Initech Jun 2015 #65
Yeah! kentauros Jun 2015 #89
TWO alerts? Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #94
No words beginning with "c" or letters rhyming with "c"! Divernan Jun 2015 #117
Then merely stay out of the sea, Divernan kentauros Jun 2015 #197
Grownups are no longer welcome, I guess Warpy Jun 2015 #189
Only one alert on your OP. kentauros Jun 2015 #190
Welcome back. polly7 Jun 2015 #66
Wait! AlbertCat Jun 2015 #68
Huzzah! OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #69
Did you join??? yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #78
Shall we all sing "Sweet Adeline" and remember the good ol' days JDPriestly Jun 2015 #80
I know! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #96
No. That's part of the good ol' days -- the breast feeding. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #104
Yeah, me too. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #130
But any mention of the Fried Chicken Wars or the Moon Bombing hifiguy Jun 2015 #149
Only if they serve cornflake coated chicken! dgibby Jun 2015 #258
Cornflake coated chicken?? Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #260
Probably hanging out at the kentauros Jun 2015 #369
Nice post, Elton John! KamaAina Jun 2015 #81
so happy to see you back! ms liberty Jun 2015 #86
I'm glad to see you back. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #93
Good to see you again, T Y L Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #105
I think you will add to chorus in the good fight. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #122
Hi Taz. Too bad we didn't get Elizabeth but Bernie is a good alternative. Cleita Jun 2015 #95
I know, but I'm good with Bernie. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #120
Hillary Clinton on Free Trade (some article) riversedge Jun 2015 #99
Jesus god. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #103
Bernie Sanders: “I’m Not Running Against Hillary Clinton” http://www.hillarymojo.com/2015/05/26/bern riversedge Jun 2015 #110
The Cheerleaders Recovery Group Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #116
well thany --you little sweetiepie riversedge Jun 2015 #144
Would you call Hillary a little sweetiepie? Because that's a diminutive term Divernan Jun 2015 #196
oh Hillary is nice sweetiepie riversedge Jun 2015 #204
So, you're buying a bridge in Brooklyn? GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #221
oh, I just have all 21 obsessions... riversedge Jun 2015 #230
Hillary Clinton's 'evolving' policies 05:24 passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #169
Please try to be fair. HRC found problems with Obama's TPP. There were clearly to many "the" used. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #350
Welcome back, Taz awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #101
Welcome back. hifiguy Jun 2015 #106
I don't need no steenking suit, Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #131
I know whatcha mean. hifiguy Jun 2015 #157
You better watch out! Rex Jun 2015 #108
Yep - a forced timeout, then a virtual tickertape parade to welcome you back! kath Jun 2015 #226
Just happy you're back! calimary Jun 2015 #109
Welcome back Renew Deal Jun 2015 #112
Welcome back Taz. 99Forever Jun 2015 #115
Welcome back my friend to the show that never ends... bluesbassman Jun 2015 #119
Brain Salad Surgery Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #129
Yes indeed! I was lucky enough to see them perform it at the California Jam in '74. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #147
Holy shit! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #156
Hell yeah! bluesbassman Jun 2015 #170
So, you're not going to believe this . . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #180
You LUCKY dog. hifiguy Jun 2015 #158
Deep Purple was there? Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #162
I remember the teevee show of it well hifiguy Jun 2015 #165
Yeah, Ritchie shoved the peghead of his Strat right into the lens! bluesbassman Jun 2015 #171
He was noted for his short fuse and LARGE charge hifiguy Jun 2015 #174
Yes, that and his ability to play the hell out of a Stratocaster. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #179
Loved him to death back in the day and still do. hifiguy Jun 2015 #182
Cool stuff! bluesbassman Jun 2015 #186
Absolutely perfect! abakan Jun 2015 #309
you want I should kick your returning, bitching ass, Le Taz Hot? Skittles Jun 2015 #121
Yeahhh!!!!!! Skittles!!!! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #137
I WILL RESUME YOUR ACCOUNT AS A PAYING CUSTOMER Skittles Jun 2015 #150
You didn't leave in a snit, did you? tularetom Jun 2015 #124
No . . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #142
Yay! riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #125
Love it. progressoid Jun 2015 #126
Get me a beer bitch underpants Jun 2015 #127
And yet another alert skepticscott Jun 2015 #133
#2 & #6 got the joke underpants Jun 2015 #146
#6 checking in... Glassunion Jun 2015 #159
#2 at your service skepticscott Jun 2015 #172
And #3 makes a statement, "Saw this thread earlier, Figured this would happen" rhett o rick Jun 2015 #349
The place is being swarmed with fucked up blog nannies. L0oniX Jun 2015 #153
you said blog nannies Throckmorton Jun 2015 #163
Super blog nannies? L0oniX Jun 2015 #164
I see what you did there. hifiguy Jun 2015 #167
My you are polite. You should hear what we call them off line. eom Cleita Jun 2015 #199
No shit BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #201
There are those who want to carpet the World... bvar22 Jun 2015 #298
Oh good grief. How many alert trolls have their sights on this thread? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #312
If you can't discuss issues then why are you here but to disrupt? They don't like rhett o rick Jun 2015 #366
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #148
+ underpants Jun 2015 #154
"You're" Glassunion Jun 2015 #160
You're right. It is a big "fucking" difference. cui bono Jun 2015 #313
Welcome back, Le Taz Hot Oilwellian Jun 2015 #128
Give 'em hell. trof Jun 2015 #132
Welcome back Half-Century Man Jun 2015 #134
welcome back. this is going to be fun! niyad Jun 2015 #135
DU is made up Democrats and progressives, so if you think DU is so sucky, then I assume it is still_one Jun 2015 #136
Dude, seriously, Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #166
cool still_one Jun 2015 #207
You are making some wild assumptions there. Yes the majority of DU posters are progressives as rhett o rick Jun 2015 #351
what an entrance! frylock Jun 2015 #139
Such a return REALLY needs the official theme song... Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #140
The jury welcomes you the fuck back too. L0oniX Jun 2015 #151
Yaaaay Le Taz !!! - WooHoo !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #152
WillyT! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #168
And I lerve You Back !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #185
This entire thread is making me remember why hifiguy Jun 2015 #161
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #183
I thank the alerters, too. kentauros Jun 2015 #340
No kidding. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #368
Fuck yeah! If this place can be saved, it will be the old-timers ... 11 Bravo Jun 2015 #173
Thanks to everyone or the warm welcome back! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #176
A fellow "Old One, from the Before Times" villager Jun 2015 #177
Bitches??!!?! Who are you calling ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #178
Does it rhyme with "bunt" , bvar22 Jun 2015 #310
I'm wise to that trick, bvar22 JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #328
good try, but the answer we're looking for is "coquette" NuttyFluffers Jun 2015 #359
Welcome back, Taz! LittleBlue Jun 2015 #181
Hello. immoderate Jun 2015 #184
Hi! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #188
Welcome back! hrmjustin Jun 2015 #191
Wah-Ever! MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #193
Welcome back! SalviaBlue Jun 2015 #198
Back with a bang! Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #203
Your icon is so different from the former. It changes your whole personality. byronius Jun 2015 #205
Um, Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #210
Hey, welcome back! denbot Jun 2015 #206
You were on my ignore list. Why were you on my ignore list? GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #212
we don't need another Hillary hater Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #213
Foolish woman, thinking you could leave! Welcome back!!!! scarletwoman Jun 2015 #215
Scahlet!!!! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #216
"Hillary hater" - yeah I saw that. :D scarletwoman Jun 2015 #218
Still taking the census? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #217
Very glad to see you back! petronius Jun 2015 #223
*kisses* #feelthebern!!! bunnies Jun 2015 #227
I thought you said Butch . olddots Jun 2015 #228
I'm alerting on myself olddots Jun 2015 #229
Who you are calling bitches? akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #231
Only the cool people Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #232
Oh ok, I was not too sure if you were being facetious! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #233
Whoooosh!!!!!! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #234
It's late here and I was confused! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #236
While I don't know you, I agree to sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #237
New so not familiar with you romanic Jun 2015 #242
Welcome back! nt steve2470 Jun 2015 #248
ALERTING!!! corkhead Jun 2015 #252
Welcome back Autumn Jun 2015 #253
Welcome back! marym625 Jun 2015 #257
Yeah, Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #261
It means liberal, Democrats, progressives, marym625 Jun 2015 #264
"Welcome back, to that same old place that you laughed about." raouldukelives Jun 2015 #259
Hi. You might be interested in this. It was a revelation to me. merrily Jun 2015 #266
Jeebus! Look at those numbers. MelissaB Jun 2015 #292
I hope you voted. merrily Jun 2015 #346
Yes, I did! MelissaB Jun 2015 #360
...rekicking that. L0oniX Jun 2015 #294
I checked some profiles of those who voted for Hillary whose names were unfamiliar. merrily Jun 2015 #345
Wow! I never saw that! SoapBox Jun 2015 #297
I hope you voted. merrily Jun 2015 #344
Yeah, but... cui bono Jun 2015 #315
Or, before we saw how many low down Big Lies some DUers would tell about Bernie. merrily Jun 2015 #362
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #267
I don't know you man!!! d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #268
"man". < heh. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #277
YAY! Another fellow traveler. ;D roguevalley Jun 2015 #278
labels are for RWNJ's stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #281
Good to see you back, Taz! shanti Jun 2015 #286
welcome back samsingh Jun 2015 #291
"I'm goin' with the devil I know as opposed to the devil I don't." SoapBox Jun 2015 #296
Incorrigible as always !! jaysunb Jun 2015 #323
welcome home irisblue Jun 2015 #342
Fearing giving you even a bigger head, this is one of the most refreshing threads I've seen rhett o rick Jun 2015 #352
i heart you. :) NuttyFluffers Jun 2015 #353
Welcome back, ...Hotter... Oh, that was bad! ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #376

Warpy

(112,123 posts)
10. Probably, DU has a record number of prissy word jumpers right now
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:27 PM
Jun 2015

and they really make DU suck, but IBTL, welcome back Taz.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
21. Hey, Warpy!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:36 PM
Jun 2015

So, "Bitches" is banned but using "cracker" to refer to white people is OK? Got it. I can't really complain. Been to other sites and there's not much difference.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
57. Yeah
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:15 PM
Jun 2015

I got a post hidden for using that word - only time in I've ever had a post hidden. The rules here are applied in a fluid fashion. Yeah, that's it, a fluid fashion.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
321. I was thinking a little Turbolax might help.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jun 2015

That might help move the mail for the severely constipated.

 

SaranchaIsWaiting

(247 posts)
97. My nieces friends call each other ho-bag biotches.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jun 2015

At first I kinda was, huh?

then I was rolling on the floor laughing.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
241. Hey Lo0niX, are we crazy because we
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:19 AM
Jun 2015

believe in policy over gender politics?



Naw, I didn't think so.

Go Bernie, go Marty! Real Dems Arise!!

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
20. I would be astounded if the alert was not already sent.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:34 PM
Jun 2015

FYI, google shows that the word that got NYC_SKP banned has been used in 3,000 more posts than when NYC_SKP was banned.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
48. Yes, apparently spoonerisms about slang for female genitalia is a banworthy offense.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:03 PM
Jun 2015

He was playing with a troll before MIRT got the troll. The troll used a spoonerism about female genitalia, and NYC_SKP toyed with him instead of letting MIRT handle it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026777709

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
33. They did.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:47 PM
Jun 2015

And it won't be hidden. I didn't say anything on the jury, so I'm one of the anonymous votes to Leave It


Results of your Jury Service

On Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:24 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

OK, Bitches. I'm Back!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026824105

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Please do not walk back in here, with a yell to sexism.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:41 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I don't think this will get hidden but yeah, "bitches" is a misogynist slur and should be avoided like other slurs. If you want to call me a member of the outrage whatever, so be it. I wouldn't have alerted but if I'm on the jury I'll vote to hide.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

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hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
38. The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended strike again.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jun 2015

We may need to get out the comfy chair.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
67. The results. I'm #2.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:19 PM
Jun 2015

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"Unholy Church Of The Perpetually", Name calling a group of men came up with to insult women if they challenge sexist slurs. Bitch is a sexist slur. It wasnt hidden, which is fine. But, to call out feminists for challenging a sexist slur over the top.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:14 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't know what this "Church" is, but if the OP survived a jury, then this should too.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I thought it was clever.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

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kentuck

(111,499 posts)
73. #6
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jun 2015


On Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:56 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended strike again.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6824341

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"Unholy Church Of The Perpetually", Name calling a group of men came up with to insult women if they challenge sexist slurs. Bitch is a sexist slur. It wasnt hidden, which is fine. But, to call out feminists for challenging a sexist slur over the top.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:14 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't know what this "Church" is, but if the OP survived a jury, then this should too.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I thought it was clever.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
141. Responding to those kind of alerts is like shooting fish in the proverbial barrel.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:34 PM
Jun 2015

Almost too easy. Never takes me more than about 30 seconds for the whole process.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
192. I'm a very old Feminist, and I am NOT offended. Something seriously disturbing about this gen's
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jun 2015

"feminism". really misses what's actually misogynistic by about a 1000 miles. I think cuzz, they're taking their SELVES too damn seriously, imo. They're not doing our sex the favor they think they are.

Sad, really.

SalviaBlue

(2,939 posts)
200. As a 60 year old feminist, I agree with you completely.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 09:18 PM
Jun 2015

Get a grip women, this word nazi shit is embarassing.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
235. The working class femme's fatales
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:28 AM
Jun 2015

despise this type of ahem, perpetually offended types.

I used to wonder why, not anymore.

It's easy to get offended over mere words and not fight over living wages.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
243. The Witchfinders General need to be driven
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:32 AM
Jun 2015

from DU. Ridicule is always an extremely effective weapon against the terminally self-righteous. I urge DUers to unanimously reject their obvious and coordinated alert-stalking and swarm attacks. Time for this crap to end. Now.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
299. Yes, it's about time the majority of the women here got a chance to talk about REAL WOMEN'S issues
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:25 PM
Jun 2015

without the constant harassment and distraction, which is all it is, FROM those issues by the obsession with words.

I think of the women in famine stricken Somalia which I wrote about here a few years ago, walking for miles with their children, some pregnant, children dying along the way, mothers too, and I can't help wondering what they would think if someone were to ask them 'what do you think about the use of offensive words'?

Their PLIGHT is and should be not just offensive, but the cause of worldwide OUTRAGE and then ACTION on their behalf.

But alas, none of the permanently offended were interested in that OP. Airc, it sank like a rock. perhaps if I had included a few 'words' at least it might have kicked, though the content would must likely would still have been ignored.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
303. You're right, Sabrina.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jun 2015

I've posted many reports too of women and children around the world in desperate need of help - not a single one of those (who called us rape-apologists, pedophile enablers, MRA apologists, 'women who like to be abused!' - usually over differences discussing a word) ever chimed in. Not once.

But watch your words!

I don't take the concern seriously anymore.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
306. Sssshhh, not supposed to talk about women in Foreign Countries, or how they are affected
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:45 PM
Jun 2015

by our Foreign Wars etc. Or so I was told lol!

Just read an important article about the millions of women who have been so destroyed as a result of our policies in the ME. I will be posting it soon, and the work Feminists have been struggling to do to try to help them, but there are so many. But we have 'words' to think about, so what can you do?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
358. Oops.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jun 2015

Yes, I've seen that mentioned a time or two. Of course the struggles of women in every country are important and I've never seen anyone say otherwise ... I'm just extra aware of the suffering of women and children in every country we've hurt with military interventions, corporate bullying and everything else we've unleashed on people who've done nothing to deserve it. Mostly because they have been hurt SO badly - probably worse than any of us can even imagine, and it's up to us to care and help however we can. I wish I was in a position to join those Feminists who are doing just that.

I'm looking forward to reading your article.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
348. Sadly it's so much easier to protect a targeted group by censoring words than
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 11:03 AM
Jun 2015

actually dealing with the problem. This thread is one of the most politically liberal (open-minded) threads I've seen in a long time. And, of course, it was alerted on. There is a small minority here that doesn't like open-minded discussions because IMO they can't deal with it and would rather not talk about nor let anyone else talk about it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
371. I quietly left for a year-plus
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 09:40 AM
Jun 2015

Specifically because of the Witchfinders General before deciding I would not let them run me off of DU and away from the many here I like and respect.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
375. I left for three months on two different occasions.
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jun 2015

Like you I decided that they didn't get to run me off no matter how hard three in particular tried. The only way they will get rid of me is if they get me banned.

R B Garr

(17,182 posts)
249. It's still a head-scratcher why you don't let people call you a stupid
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:06 AM
Jun 2015

b-word on your own blog since you said you censor it... Not that I'm condoning it, no way. Just why try to censor others. Free speech!

Why so perpetually offended on your own blog? Strange...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
269. Well because the attacks were not anything like this
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jun 2015

and I am not going to prove any points to you.

The eternally offended are just that. And because Of them I watch what I say here. Eggshells mode. Not that I would use certain words, that when used for effect can be very effective. Just ask Rude.

Oh and I have proven beyond a shadow that this place is not, all protestations to the side, caring for real issues.

NuttyFluffers

(6,811 posts)
355. this place transformed into "discussion management" ages ago.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:52 PM
Jun 2015

real influence takes raw work, communication, and action. it's almost like a little (mocking)bird, somewhere, discovered this place and its true potential -- and didn't like it.

eggshells are great for compost and freshening garbage disposals, by the way. terrible for walking.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
270. Interesting.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jun 2015

I've seen a lot of this around lately. The hypocrisy levels are through the roof.

Like questioning why on earth a poster here got banned for saying one bad thing that one time (which is really stretching the truth), followed up with the same folks screaming why isn't that woman being fired from NPR for saying one bad thing that one time....

This place gets me so dizzy sometimes.



 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
271. Well he gets offended
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jun 2015

by me not letting spell flames or you "write like a five year." To variations in the same theme. You know the kind of shit skinner thinks is perfectly ok here and I no longer bother alerting anymore when the crew tries it. Apparently I should allow that there.

Nope.

Manually moderated cause the crew tried those and much,more worst personal attacks. IP bans are rather ahem useful.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
273. It is community standards baby
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jun 2015

to quote the owners.

Those standards are fine with cyberstalking, bullying et al. So banning a few words is rather silly, given those community standards.

Just my opinion.

Anyhow, it is not that we are at a site that actually cares for ahem policy, or actual women's issues, such as police violence, equal pay, the ERA, minimum wage and child care.

Those issues, those OPs sink like rocks. But shitty novels...how many days on fifty shades? DU has a reputation, not a good one, for it's lack of seriousness around the web

So it is what it is.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
276. You will see and get out of this site what you want...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jun 2015

and I'll keep reading about and commenting on policy, actual women's issues, police violence, equal pay, the ERA, minimum wage and child care right here on DemocraticUnderground. DU has a reputation all, right. A reputation for it's shitty community standards when it comes to misogyny and sexism. If one chooses not to participate in the process that guides the community standards and if one throws their hands up in the air and declares defeat because some women here fight against misogyny and sexist language, then the path to a welcoming environment free of bullying and cyberstalking becomes pretty clouded.

Just my opinion.



 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
279. Well I posted yesterday
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jun 2015

of the changes activists want with the local CRB. The charge is being led by many women. Sank like a rock

I have posted about the vaccination legislation in California, spearheaded among others, by a female legislator...sank

About sick days...sank

I could go on. So yes, my view, if I post a word, the site will spend days and multiple OPs.

Now lemme see if the Clinton campaign posted her speech anywhere. I got a procedural, non partisan, story to write. Ergo, not fit for a partisan site.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
284. I thought DU stated up front it was a partisan site.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jun 2015

I'm sorry that people didn't respond to your posts. That doesn't mean that the discussions aren't taking place at all. And it certainly doesn't mean that DUer's don't care about women's issues. The reason those threads about sexist language and misogyny get so out of control is because of the absolute freak out that happens here when someone suggests that there are less offensive ways of communicating.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
287. People have noted, not just me,
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:30 PM - Edit history (1)

that women's issues sink... I just used those as examples.

It is what it is.

But it is to the point that we just laugh at the church of the eternally insulted. After all, if those are the community standards and what matters... who am I to say? I speak of these issues, just NOT HERE. And that experience is not just mine. Granted, sometimes it is nicer to do it over coffee and nice music.

And no, I run a non partisan news paper. I know that non partisan news are not wanted here. I will have to wait for CSPAN to put the video up.


NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
311. Absolute freak out? LOL
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 04:19 PM
Jun 2015

Who really does the freaking out whenever two or three particular words are used?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
300. Actually I did not see much of that, calling for the woman to be fired, I saw the opposite. Lots of
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:30 PM
Jun 2015

people defending her while admitting she made a mistake, which she herself admitted. Have you seen dozens of OPs here after the initial response with thousands of comments and alert stalking of anyone who DIDN'T agree?

That was a very bad analogy frankly.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
329. Let's see if I got this correct. You can't see the difference between the anti-Semetic attack
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 06:47 PM
Jun 2015

by a national journalist against Sen Sanders, and what DU'er wrote on a message board.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
301. That's a completely different use of the word and a completely different situation.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:35 PM
Jun 2015

Perhaps nadin doesn't feel like her blog having a bunch of immature name calling on it.

This OP is not that at all. Really, you don't see the difference? Or do you just not care because you just have to perpetuate the nadin bullying on DU?

Why don't you bullies just grow up and leave her alone ffs.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
316. I don't know anything about Nadin's blog...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jun 2015

but I know there are different rules for different boards. Take Yahoo, for example, where almost anything goes. Would you like the rules on that site to apply here at DU? Most of the perpetually offended crew are far too sensitive for any place where they can't throw a tantrum to get a post hidden or a poster banned.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
331. The problem as I see it is that this is intended to be a politically liberal message board.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jun 2015

Yet it seems to me that those who are the least politically liberal and holler the loudest get their way. So if a word offends them (no matter how few they are), look out.
And no one is saying that we want the rules to go away like Yahoo. No one says that. It's important that the rules keep things civil but not to deny speech just because a few people claim that all uses of a word, whether pejorative or not should be censored.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
377. It's not necessary to throw out civility when we have liberal freedom of expression.
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jun 2015

Those seeking self-righteous power use the rules to the extreme to wield their power.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
274. The B word can both be used pejoratively or as a term of endearment among comrades in arms
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:06 PM
Jun 2015

People, especially Women (imo) need to have the good sense and a modicum of good humor to recognize the distinction is a significant difference .. or vice versa ..

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
275. The church of the eternally offended
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:09 PM
Jun 2015

would have their rears eternally burning among some of the local activists.

There are good quotes at times that cannot make it to a news story.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
280. Ya know! Life is just way toooo short..
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jun 2015

I'm gonna be 65 in the fall and I can't hardly believe it. I pretty much feel like I did in my 20's. but when I look in the mirror I'm reminded of just how precious every moment is..

... if this gens women don't get a grip on the outrage meter - turn in on when and where it really matters -(which it DOES matter in far too many areas culturally and geographically)... they're gonna burn out it in a very short time - ultimately be a hero to no one person or no single cause.

just my opinion of course... ymmv..

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
282. Well you have a clear split
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jun 2015

and the ones here are not on the front lines, and those women can and do at times swear like sailors on leave, after getting ripped at the bar.

Those working class women, some middle class women, despise those who use language to avoid the discussion of real issues.

Now I need to do the story for Mrs. Clinton's launch.

Seems no transcript, so CSPAN will be.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?326471-1/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-announcement&live

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
338. Love this paragraph...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015
... if this gens women don't get a grip on the outrage meter - turn in on when and where it really matters -(which it DOES matter in far too many areas culturally and geographically)... they're gonna burn out it in a very short time - ultimately be a hero to no one person or no single cause.


Every now and then I think back to the young woman *micro-aggrieved* by lily-whites sporting dreads at a music festival. Perpetually offended, indeed.

(FWIW, middle-aged woman here.)
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
339. Thanks.. and yes.. I think this "dynamic" needs a deeper level of discussion.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:53 PM
Jun 2015

Don't want to exaggerate the problem, but it's gotten way out of hand, imo.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
314. I wish we could really discuss this here. I appreciate your view and agree. In some cases
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 04:35 PM
Jun 2015

it's not about being offended but about power. What sense of power one has to be able to censor those they declare offend them.

Here is my opinion. Words themselves don't hurt a soul. If you read them in a dictionary you don't burn the dictionary. If a child utters the word no one is offended. It's the intent behind the use of the word. There are lots of words that can be used in a pejorative manner that can also be used in a non-pejorative manner. I consider myself liberal and yet blame some liberals for trying too hard not to offend.

Here is an article that I'd like to get your opinion on: https://medium.com/@aristoNYC/social-justice-bullies-the-authoritarianism-of-millennial-social-justice-6bdb5ad3c9d3

A piece from the article:

 in attempting to solve pressing and important social issues, millennial social justice advocates are violently sabotaging genuine opportunities for progress by infecting a liberal political narrative with, ironically, hate.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
317. That's it in a nutshell.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jun 2015
" in attempting to solve pressing and important social issues, millennial social justice advocates are violently sabotaging genuine opportunities for progress by infecting a liberal political narrative with, ironically, hate."


I haven't read the article yet, but that quote is spot on .... instead of gathering as many like-minded and sympathetic individuals together to fight those things that truly do hurt women, and everyone else, .... purposefully injecting hatred in to almost any conversation that might contain some word that could be found objectionable, only divides and weakens. Authoritarianism isn't acceptable to anyone I know - I don't know how some find that using it is beneficial to any one or any cause.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
327. Yes some of the problem is authoritarianism, which I think enters into a lot of
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jun 2015

our problems today, and I also blame some liberals that IMO are so afraid of hurting someone's feelings that they can be manipulated into some pretty ridiculous corners.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
320. The title alone articulates the problem exactly
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jun 2015

Just a quick comment..because i'm in the middle of something else, I want to return to this as soon as I'm able, because this subject matter has sparked a certain level of concern in me, especially in light of what happened here on du just last week with another longtime member and comrade..

I think this does deserve addressing on a deeper level. I'm encouraged to see shared concerns are viewed elsewhere, and given enough thought to writing an analysis, certainly worthy of a focused read.

cuz ya know, this shite is way out of hand. and I think your point as regards POWER is very interesting and may just be the underpinning pathos (for lack of a better term at hand) involved. .

let's talk more on this soon. maybe it's own thread. ? !

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
111. Comfy chair/fainting couch/clutchable pearls/smelling salts
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jun 2015

whatevs. Basically it comes down to whom you may be obliquely, possibly referring to, and the luck of the jury draw.

I almost forgot to say, welcome the hell back!

GoneOffShore

(17,381 posts)
222. The Brothers and Sisters of the Church of Easily, Perpetually and Frequently Outraged and Offended.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:56 PM
Jun 2015

With the sub chapter of the Chapel of Words Mean What I Want Them To Mean Acolytes.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
245. Lordy lu, that was brilliant!
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:41 AM
Jun 2015

I am so glad to see the mass pushback against these cheapjack Stalinist bullies!

The worst thing ever done on DU was giving those goons a protected group. They should have been tombstoned en masse instead.

R B Garr

(17,182 posts)
246. Yeah, I laughed when I read the MRA types alert on the word 'douchebags'
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:44 AM
Jun 2015

They even follow one guy around who uses that word towards them because they get madder than wet hens about it. You are so right about those "goons".

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
289. let's hope it doesn't devolve there. :)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:03 PM
Jun 2015

folks here need to get a grip and sense of humor for mental health. it's like remembering to eat plenty of fruit and vegies - I think there's a serious depletion in that dept. dunno.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
326. "You'd think that much outrage would wear a person out after a while."
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jun 2015

It's actually an exception to generally accepted laws of physics. Whoever says that perpetual motion cannot exist has never seen the outrage machine in action.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
39. OMG, they alerted????
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jun 2015

ROFLMAO!!!

Dear Alerter: I am female in possession of a T-shirt with the following slogan: "You call me a bitch like it's a bad thing."

Are we getting a clue yet?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
70. "OMG, they alerted????"
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:21 PM
Jun 2015

You really haven't been around much lately. Of course they alerted. According to a few, "that word" is reason for a tombstone. Boggles the mind.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
71. And I'm a guy
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:21 PM
Jun 2015

and I assumed you were calling me a bitch, too. If it's directed at both men and women, is it misogynist?

R B Garr

(17,182 posts)
244. Psst. Just don't call the MRA types "douchebags", because
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:34 AM
Jun 2015

they get real offended by that and send all kinds of alerts to get people on time outs.

Seriously! You can't make that shit up.

R B Garr

(17,182 posts)
254. Seriously, you are one of his biggest fans. Just don't say "douchebag",
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:10 AM
Jun 2015

or the Men's Rights types get a bee in their bonnet. Hilarious the double standards.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
262. That member has only one post hidden for that
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jun 2015

in the current list. The other four hides are for other types of attacks and slurs. When he was in time-out for mostly using that word, it was repeatedly directed at a female member, a grandmother. I don't know what "Men's Rights types" are, but I don't think they are necessarily the alerters on those posts. How would we know?

R B Garr

(17,182 posts)
263. LOL, like that is the only "list". There were others, as you know
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jun 2015

because you follow him around. All the MRA folks were madder than wet hens about the word "douchebag".

It's just hilarious that this whole thread is full of double standards, like you saying alerters are unknown but the innuendos in this thread are so sure of the "witches" who are really alerting. Hilarious.

Anyway, I'm not into simpletons. Enjoy your "witchhunt", lol.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
265. Sounds like a self control issue
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jun 2015

if he keeps getting hidden for the same thing over and over. Community standards appear to say that's a no-no. Unless these mysterious "men's rights types" are somehow stacking all of those juries.


Meanwhile, the alerts in this thread keep failing, and you're doing a lot of complaining about it.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
324. Who and what are you even talking about?
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jun 2015

Link? Was this a movie you saw or something? You seem obsessed my those scary "MRA types."

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
307. I must not be an MRA type then.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jun 2015

Really, you can call me pretty much whatever you want and I won't alert. I just won't answer back because the people who like to toss around insults are the ones hoping to provoke a response and then alert. I'll let you figure out which crowd uses those tactics.

The only ones I've ever seen offended by the d-bag word are the same ones offended by the b-word or the c-word.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
224. I think it can be
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:42 PM
Jun 2015

If the word is used to indicate that a guy is being perceived as being "weak" or feminine. Much like calling a guy a pussy to say that he's like a woman would be misogynistic.

That said for me it is highly context dependent. As a guy I don't feel comfortable calling people bitches (particularly in such a public forum), but I also can't be bothered to get worked up over the word by itself if clearly it's not about denigrating women.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
91. As I used to tell the mostly male court referred clients in evening group....
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jun 2015

(they were a surly lot)

A "bitch" is ...a Broad In Total Control of Herself.

That stopped any name calling.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
194. I Want one!!!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jun 2015

BTW, I didn't know you before you left, but I sure the hell welcome you back and look forward to future posts from ya.. LOVE this OP btw!!! Love it!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
209. I wonder if those who throw around the word 'misogynist' so freely that it has lost any meaning btw,
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jun 2015

claiming that 'words hurt' ever think that THEY have hurt many people by falsely accusing good democratic men of being something they are not?

Of course in the RW none of this is relevant to anything, women are concerned about real issues, such as surviving from day to day while no matter how qualified they are, they won't be paid equal salaries to men.

Not to mention all the other issues they are dealing with.

Good jury decision btw.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
220. How DARE you bring up real world issues?!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jun 2015

Everybody knows that what happens on an Internet discussion board is the most important thing in the world!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
240. You and Sabrina are two of
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:14 AM
Jun 2015

the big reasons the Sisters will not run me off. You, Willy T, octafish, Kentuck, cali, warren de M and so many more are why it is worth fighting the good fight. Fight on, my friends, fight on. DU is too good yo surrender to the likes of them.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
330. OK, I've just GOT to share.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015

I got called on the carpet about my use of the word "bitch" in my title via pm by someone who is well-known on this board I won't copy what she wrote to me, and my first response to her was fairly mild and polite. But then she kept pushing, wanting me to, essentially, side with her and her group and she asked my opinion. This was my response:

OK, that's it. Your name was not mentioned and the thread IS a light-hearted welcome back, glad to see old friends kind of thread when some asshole(s) alerted for stupid, stupid shit. So, yeah, when people act like dipshit tight asses other people are going to make fun of them.

I've been a feminist since the 1960's and will put up my feminist/activist creds up against ANYONE'S on this board. Anyone. I've walked the walk for over 40 years and this is what I have to say to you -- you're making the rest of us look bad. They're making fun of the tight-asses who proclaim themselves as spokespersons for the entire feminist movement and for the feminists on this board when in reality, you all don't have a fucking clue.

You accuse people willy nilly of misogyny so often that the word has become meaningless and elicits ridicule. YOU did that!

I'm not interested in your inter-nicene spats because this is a discussion board and people have different opinions and they express them. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we disagree but reacting like each and every disagreement with regards to women is a personal affront to you or some Group on DU IS joke-worthy. You know this and you know your temper tantrums are ineffective so one has to question, why do you REALLY do it? I could probably give it a good guess but, seriously, I'm not that interested.

You wanted my opinion? Well, as Dylan once said, "Don't ask me nothin' about nothin', I just might tell you the truth." You just got it.

LTH

polly7

(20,582 posts)
354. Hi hifi!
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:42 PM
Jun 2015


Reading this thread is like fresh air coming in through an open window, isn't it? I like it. Very glad she's back.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
341. I absolutely agree with the overuse of the misogyny tag.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 10:58 PM
Jun 2015

Perhaps they'd do better taking it to tumblr

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
357. Ooooooooohh......
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jun 2015


(Do we get a prize if we can guess who it was?? I'm betting we can get it in three or less guesses lol)
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
365. You won't get very long odds on that bet.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jun 2015

There are some blindingly obvious candidates and it's a short list.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
372. I challenge the person to whom that brilliance was directed to speak up and respond. I
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 09:57 AM
Jun 2015

bet all we'll hear is crickets.

To that person, you were soundly humiliated and we know who you are. So, let's hear what you have to say in response.

Welcome back, LTH!!! Glad to see you again

blm

(113,379 posts)
25. I know…….
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jun 2015

lately, it feels like I'm often searching for the old guard just to get back to saner (and FAR more humorous) ground.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
256. seems as though humor has been banned
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jun 2015

along with certain words. Some people seem to think, judging from some of the alerts here, free thought has also been banned.

My favorite quote is from Carl Sandburg, "Slang is a language that rolls up its sleeves, spits on its hands and goes to work."


"The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended" was hilarious.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
19. Lean, mean and green.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jun 2015

Her poops, I mean.



She's grand, thanks so much for asking.

Welcome back. You were missed.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
27. ROFLMAO!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jun 2015

It's good to be the fuck back! You and I have had some good ones, cali. Glad to see you're still here.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
247. Tsk. Don't you know Bernie is a racist and
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:49 AM
Jun 2015

Probably a closet sexist too? What does that 100% rating from NARAL mean? He doesn't have any credibility because he doesny have a vagina, dammit!!! Aren't you paying attention?

There are idiots here. Far too many.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
304. You've been away so you probably don't know this, but 'Bernie has messy hair'. Lol!
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jun 2015

Optics! Very important, we are told!

See you in the Bernie Group and welcome back!

#FeelTheBern

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
35. Wandering the iternetz . . .
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:47 PM
Jun 2015

looking for another site that didn't make my blood pressure rise. I found out something: It doesn't exist,

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
100. "It doesn't exist"...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jun 2015

No kidding - I still get angry at Bleacher Report.

On edit: Happy to be Post #100 and kick your Welcome Back Party back to the front page!

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
32. and a hearty Welcome the fuck back from me too !
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:47 PM
Jun 2015

Get ready to rumble. its primary time where we all get primarily moronic .

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
42. Hey, pinto.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jun 2015

Como esta frijoles, frijole? (California Chicken Spanish translated to English: "How you bean, bean?)

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
45. I like your style.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jun 2015

"OK, Bitches. I'm back"....that goes a long way toward erasing some of the non-real-world hand-wringing that's been taking the place over recently. What a breath of fresh air. Welcome back, LTH.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
47. Ah, has DU been tempoarily taken over by the
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:02 PM
Jun 2015

Brothers/Sisters of Perpetual Hand Wringing again? Good to see you, Disgustipated . . .

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
46. Ooooh! You said a BAD word,
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jun 2015

and have, no doubt, sent some members of DU to their Fainting Couches.

" you have been a bad, bad boy for using that word,
and Mother is very mad at you.
In fact, this is the maddest that Mother has EVER been."
----Virginia Madsen, The Hot Spot, just before she killed her husband by "riding" him to death.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
50. They already alerted on me
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jun 2015

but it didn't stick. Thank goddess we still have some DUers here who have a sense of humor.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
295. I wouldn't put it in the top 10,
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jun 2015

..but it is a favorite of mine.

1990
Don Johnson
Virginia Madsen
Jennifer Connelly

Drama, Crime, double crosses, & Intrigue in a small Southern town.
I thought it was extremely well done.
Virginia Madsen and Don Johnson do well together.
They are both "hustlers", and manage to get entangled.

Rotten Tomatoes only gave it a 71%, but my wife and I give it a 90%.
It is currently playing every so often on the cable channels.
Hope you like it.

If you DO watch it, you WILL recognize the line I quoted.
Madsen is a scary lady when she wants to be.
In fact, in this movie, she was a total B*tch.
Maybe even the definitive B*tch.
(I'm afraid to write out the word "bitch" because of the swift and total retribution).

My wife and I still use lines from that move.
It has one of the best ending scenes ever.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
308. I'll check it out then.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 03:57 PM
Jun 2015

Don Johnson has always been one of my favorites. I was a huge Miami Vice fan.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
94. TWO alerts?
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jun 2015

Dayum! How many times can I get alerted on for using the "b" word? (Jayzus, are we reduced to using letter+"word" now?) what the hell happened to the grown ups?

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
197. Then merely stay out of the sea, Divernan
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 09:11 PM
Jun 2015


sea (n.)
Old English "sheet of water, sea, lake, pool," from Proto-Germanic *saiwaz (cognates: Old Saxon seo, Old Frisian se, Middle Dutch see, Swedish sjö), of unknown origin, outside connections "wholly doubtful" {Buck}. Meaning "large quantity" (of anything) is from c. 1200. Meaning "dark area of the moon's surface" is attested from 1660s (see mare (n.2)).

Germanic languages also use the general Indo-European word (represented by English mere (n.)), but have no firm distinction between "sea" and "lake," either by size, by inland or open, or by salt vs. fresh. This may reflect the Baltic geography where the languages are thought to have originated. The two words are used more or less interchangeably in Germanic, and exist in opposite senses (such as Gothic saiws "lake," marei "sea;" but Dutch zee "sea," meer "lake&quot . Compare also Old Norse sær "sea," but Danish , usually "lake" but "sea" in phrases. German See is "sea" (fem.) or "lake" (masc.). The single Old English word glosses Latin mare, aequor, pontus, pelagus, and marmor.

Phrase sea change "transformation" is attested from 1610, first in Shakespeare ("The Tempest," I.ii). Sea anemone is from 1742; sea legs is from 1712; sea level from 1806; sea urchin from 1590s. At sea in the figurative sense of "perplexed" is attested from 1768, from literal sense of "out of sight of land" (c. 1300).

Warpy

(112,123 posts)
189. Grownups are no longer welcome, I guess
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jun 2015

The word nannies are only happy when they manage to bully children.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
190. Only one alert on your OP.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jun 2015

hobbit709 got the second one

And this is for your enjoyment and further amusement:

bitch (n.)
Old English bicce "female dog," probably from Old Norse bikkjuna "female of the dog" (also fox, wolf, and occasionally other beasts), which is of unknown origin. Grimm derives the Old Norse word from Lapp pittja, but OED notes that "the converse is equally possible." As a term of contempt applied to women, it dates from c. 1400; of a man, c. 1500, playfully, in the sense of "dog." Used among male homosexuals from 1930s. In modern (1990s, originally black English) slang, its use with reference to a man is sexually contemptuous, from the "woman" insult.

BITCH. A she dog, or doggess; the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore. {"Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue," 1811}

Bitch goddess coined 1906 by William James; the original one was success.

bitch (v.)
"to complain," attested at least from 1930, perhaps from the sense in bitchy, perhaps influenced by the verb meaning "to bungle, spoil," which is recorded from 1823. But bitched in this sense seems to echo Middle English bicched "cursed, bad," a general term of opprobrium (as in Chaucer's bicched bones "unlucky dice&quot , which despite the hesitation of OED, seems to be a derivative of bitch (n.).

bitchy (adj.)
1925, U.S. slang, "sexually provocative;" later (1930s) "spiteful, catty, bad-tempered" (usually of females); from bitch + -y (2). Earlier in reference to male dogs though to look less rough or coarse than usual.

Mr. Ramsay says we would now call the old dogs "bitchy" in face. That is because the Englishmen have gone in for the wrong sort of forefaces in their dogs, beginning with the days when Meersbrook Bristles and his type swept the judges off their feet and whiskers and an exaggerated face were called for in other varieties of terriers besides the wire haired fox. {James Watson, "The Dog Book," New York, 1906}

Related: Bitchily; bitchiness.


polly7

(20,582 posts)
66. Welcome back.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:19 PM
Jun 2015

Your title made me laugh, 'Ok, Bitches' is one of my friend's favourite lines. When she says it, we know there's some serious mischief to be embarked on.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
68. Wait!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:20 PM
Jun 2015

I thought "bitch" was a deeply offending word never to be used.

Watch it or you'll offend someone!!!!...... or something......

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
80. Shall we all sing "Sweet Adeline" and remember the good ol' days
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jun 2015

together? Onward and Upward.

Welcome back.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
96. I know!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jun 2015

We can have a reunion at Olive Garden. Is anybody breast feeding? This is an essential element to the experience.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
104. No. That's part of the good ol' days -- the breast feeding.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:49 PM
Jun 2015

I'm in the grandmother phase of life. It's even more exciting than breast feeding at the Olive Garden.

And by the way, watch the sexist epithets. They can get us banned nowadays. Just an update. I'm not personally offended but you don't want to get on anybody's downside.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
130. Yeah, me too.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:17 PM
Jun 2015

Except for the whole having kids/grandkids/breast feeding part. I turn 60 this year! Ggggggahhhhh!!!!!! I already got alerted on but it didn't take.

You know, they told me I was going to mellow with age. Goddess, were they wrong!

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
258. Only if they serve cornflake coated chicken!
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:30 AM
Jun 2015

I have my standards -they're not very high, but I do have them! Soooooo glad you're back!

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
260. Cornflake coated chicken??
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:51 AM
Jun 2015

What the hell have they been doing over in that Cooking & Baking group?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
95. Hi Taz. Too bad we didn't get Elizabeth but Bernie is a good alternative.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:40 PM
Jun 2015

I gave your book to my local library because they didn't have a copy of it in this RW enclave of the state.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
120. I know, but I'm good with Bernie.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jun 2015

As broke as I am I'm sending him $35.00 a month. And I'm SO glad you passed on the book to your local library. It SHOULD be read by many many people even if she isn't running.

riversedge

(71,235 posts)
99. Hillary Clinton on Free Trade (some article)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jun 2015



http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Free_Trade.htm
Hillary Clinton on Free Trade



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/30/hillary-clinton-trans-pacific-partnership_n_7173108.html

Hillary Clinton Agrees With Elizabeth Warren On Trade Dispute With Obama
Posted: 04/30/2015 12:00 am EDT Updated: 04/30/2015 11:59 am EDT


Hillary Clinton is opposed to a critical piece of the Obama administration's Trans-Pacific Partnership, which would give corporations the right to sue sovereign nations over laws or regulations that could potentially curb their profits. .....





http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/politics/hillary-clinton-trade-issues-iowa-trip/

Clinton finds problems with Obama TPP trade proposal

By Eric Bradner, CNN

Updated 7:32 PM ET, Tue May 19, 2015
Hillary Clinton's 'evolving' policies

Hillary Clinton's 'evolving' policies 05:24

Cedar Falls, Iowa (CNN)Hillary Clinton took aim Tuesday at two core components of a massive free trade pact that President Barack Obama is negotiating — signaling some agreement with the deal's liberal critics.

The Democratic front-runner in the 2016 presidential race said she wants to see rules included in the Trans-Pacific Partnership that would penalize countries for driving down the value of their currencies in order to give their exports a price advantage in the U.S. market.

And she said she's concerned about a provision that would give "corporations more power to overturn health and environmental and labor rules than consumers have."

"I think that is a problem," Clinton said during a roundtable event in Iowa, when one woman participating in the event asked her about the deal.

It's as close to staking out a clear position on the trade deal that Clinton has come — though she left wiggle room Tuesday.

"I want to judge the final agreement.......

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
103. Jesus god.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:48 PM
Jun 2015

Pro Sense. Is that you?

I'm enjoying saying hi to old friends at the moment to start a discussion on how inane this post is.

riversedge

(71,235 posts)
110. Bernie Sanders: “I’m Not Running Against Hillary Clinton” http://www.hillarymojo.com/2015/05/26/bern
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jun 2015

Bernie says it all. Learn. Enough said.

Bernie Sanders: “I’m Not Running Against Hillary Clinton” http://www.hillarymojo.com/2015/05/26/bernie-sanders-im-not-running-against-hillary-clinton/ … via @HillaryMojo

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
116. The Cheerleaders Recovery Group
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jun 2015

is down the hall and to the right. But I think you're just downright precious anyway.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
196. Would you call Hillary a little sweetiepie? Because that's a diminutive term
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 09:10 PM
Jun 2015

And the latest is that she wants to be called a tough mother. On the other hand, a preview of her speech tomorrow from her staff is that she'll handle corporations by "coaxing" them.

The cognitive dissonance is so thick in the air tonight.

Seriously, doesn't she have someone to screen the various spins so they are not contradictory?
Right hand meet left hand/too many cooks/who's in charge here, and so forth.
You can't make this stuff up, and to prove I'm not making anything up, here are the links:

Star Member applegrove (67,332 posts)

Why Does Hillary Clinton Want To Be President?

Taegan Goddard at the Political Wire

http://politicalwire.com/2015/06/12/why-does-hillary-clinton-want-to-be-president/

"SNIP...............
Clinton’s staff believes this is where the campaign will be won or lost—it will signal to voters, and to ideologically driven Obama donors, that she’s every bit as committed to their cause as Eliza“Clinton’s big speech will be a rare opportunity to change that narrative. It will be held at New York’s Roosevelt Island—a none-to-subtle signal that she’s aligning herself with FDR, the boldest of Democratic presidents and the one who established the deepest personal connection with voters—something Clinton has struggled to do throughout her three-decade career. And she’ll do so with a broad progressive agenda, her advisers told me, studded with policy proposals to be unveiled in greater depth in a series of speeches this summer, starting with an ambitious plan to cut student debt and lower tuition and a program to coax corporations into paying their workers more.


Star Member Skinner (60,351 posts)
Hillary Clinton is One Tough Mother
One Tough Mother
Hillary Clinton’s campaign is going to sell her as a fighter like no other.
By John Dickerson, Slate
Tough mother. That’s both the theme of Hillary Clinton’s big speech on Saturday and the emerging theme of her campaign.


Does no one in her campaign have a dictionary?
"coaxing corporations"? COAXING ?!?

Yeah, the masters of the universe heading corporations & financial institutions just need a little sweet talk . . . . Because, you know, when they are battling head-to-head with corporate takeovers, or renegotiating union contracts and the like, all those movers and shakers, members of the One Percent, etc. rely on those 3 credit MBA programs they took titled: How to Coax, or Coaxing 101, or The Role of Coaxing in Corporate Governance, or Turning on the Charm for Fun and Profit.

And golly, what a super strategy for HRC to use when confronting the head of a hostile government, or telling the Joint Chiefs what to do. Not to mention dealing with recalcitrant GOP majorities in the House or Senate.

Here we have an early indicator of the quality of advisor putting together her campaign strategy - addressing the problem of appearing progressive without pissing off or otherwise alarming all those multi-million dollar donors. We'll just use the term "coax". Yeah, that's the ticket!

And furthermore, since the term is defined as gently urging and flattering, cajoling, pleading, etc., it's a gross insult to a woman candidate. Hey, just use those old feminine wiles! What's plan B - bat one's eyes?


Coax | Definition of coax by Merriam-Webster
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coaxCached

Full Definition of COAX. transitive verb. 1. obsolete: fondle, pet. 2: to influence or gently urge by caressing or flattering : wheedle <coaxed him into going>
coax - definition of coax by The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/coaxCached

coax 1 (kōks) v. coaxed, coax·ing, coax·es. v.tr. 1. To persuade or try to persuade by pleading or flattery; cajole. 2. To obtain by persistent persuasion: coaxed ...
Coax | Define Coax at Dictionary.com
dictionary.reference.com/browse/coaxCached

verb (used with object) 1. to attempt to influence by gentle persuasion, flattery, etc.; cajole: He coaxed her to sing, but she refused.
www.thefreedictionary.com/
coax - definition of coax in English from the...
www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/coaxCached

www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/coax

When you coax someone, you try to convince him gently, with pleasant words and maybe a little flattery. You’ll have to be patient, as you can’t rush someone

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
169. Hillary Clinton's 'evolving' policies 05:24
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:05 PM
Jun 2015

Why are they only evolving during campaign events?

I seriously hope she is "evolving" but I see nothing to show for it except her words and words aren't worth much to most politicians once the campaign has been won.


Anyway, back on topic...Taz, I may not know you, but I sure do welcome you back. We need you!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
350. Please try to be fair. HRC found problems with Obama's TPP. There were clearly to many "the" used.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jun 2015

But she wants to hold off final decision until after the debates. Or is it the debate? I heard the DNC is working it down to one and limited to those under the age of 70.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
106. Welcome back.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jun 2015

The flameproof suits are available for $129.95 at AxMan Discount Surplus.... You're gonna need one these days