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PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:47 PM Jun 2015

Could a Sanders Presidency lead to

Could a Sanders Presidency lead to investigations and prosecution of war crimes regarding the invasion of Iraq? Certainly he has the moral footing to pursue such actions if he wished to. Thoughts?

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Could a Sanders Presidency lead to (Original Post) PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 OP
No. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #1
I would not expect any other answer PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #3
Atempting to do so would be the end of his administration. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #7
I disagree PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #9
That's unrealistic. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #10
For once I agree. Nt F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #18
It is a possibility devoutly to be wished! marym625 Jun 2015 #2
If it doesn't he's obviously just another MIC tool BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #4
+1! treestar Jun 2015 #23
In My Dreams - Make It So cantbeserious Jun 2015 #5
His being the only potential CIC who would have the guts edgineered Jun 2015 #6
I would rather move forward myself. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #8
Acknowledgment of war crimes PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #11
I would not. Cleita Jun 2015 #15
Only if he wants to tear the country apart. GGJohn Jun 2015 #12
What about bounty hunters, aspirant Jun 2015 #19
They would have to get past the Secret Service protection details first, GGJohn Jun 2015 #25
Do we also investigat Hilary, since she suppored iraq? Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #13
Not to mention John Kerry. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #26
Probably not. There are too many variables, Cleita Jun 2015 #14
Probably not. DawgHouse Jun 2015 #16
I have no idea, which is a good thing Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #17
Could a Sanders Presidency lead to ericthered1975 Jun 2015 #20
eys PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #21
Did he say anything about it? treestar Jun 2015 #22
Political capital 1939 Jun 2015 #24
I actually think it would be more likely that a Sanders administration could bring a charge of KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #27
While I sincerely hope Sanders becomes President, SheilaT Jun 2015 #28
It shouldn't. Chan790 Jun 2015 #29
He would give it more consideration JEB Jun 2015 #30
How would he since its requires the legislative & judical branches... Historic NY Jun 2015 #31
Probably not. With other former leaders and war crimes jeff47 Jun 2015 #32
Sadly, I may have to agree with you. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #34
I'd settle for them "folks" being kicked out of the country by some "folks". L0oniX Jun 2015 #33
Well this would be a clear policy difference...Good question Sheepshank Jun 2015 #35
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
7. Atempting to do so would be the end of his administration.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jun 2015

He/d be a lame duck from the day he attempted on.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
9. I disagree
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:00 PM
Jun 2015

I believe it is the correct path forward and the world would embrace and support such efforts.

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
4. If it doesn't he's obviously just another MIC tool
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jun 2015

like Obama and all the rest of 'em.

Make him promise NOW!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. +1!
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 07:25 AM
Jun 2015

The fact it is still in question and that he has not declared outright he will prosecute says volumes.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
6. His being the only potential CIC who would have the guts
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:52 PM
Jun 2015

to tell us that there isn't enough combined political power inside the beltway to support investigation or prosecution would not be a question.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
8. I would rather move forward myself.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jun 2015

We have a whole lot of issues that need immediate attention. The war against the people in this country needs to be won first and foremost. We need to bring people out of gut wrenching poverty. We need to trim down the MIC to the point it is small enough to drown in a bathtub. Maybe then go after the war criminals.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. I would not.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:22 PM
Jun 2015

Letting war criminals off the hook only leads to more war crimes because it sends the message tha no one is going to prison for them.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
12. Only if he wants to tear the country apart.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:05 PM
Jun 2015

The Congress will never allow for war crimes prosecution and no president is going to send any of the Bush cabal to the Hague for prosecution.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
25. They would have to get past the Secret Service protection details first,
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jun 2015

good luck with that.
I don't think any bounty hunter would take that assignment, and even if they managed to capture one of them, how would they get them out of the US?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. Probably not. There are too many variables,
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jun 2015

but I believe if there is a clear opportunity to do so, I don't believe Bernie would ignore it.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
16. Probably not.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:27 PM
Jun 2015

Honestly, I don't think anyone will ever answer for those war crimes. Maybe the history books will tell the truth but no charges, at least in our lifetime. JMHO

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
17. I have no idea, which is a good thing
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:33 PM
Jun 2015

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since with any other candidate I would have no hope at all.

1939

(1,683 posts)
24. Political capital
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 08:50 AM
Jun 2015

Any new president comes in with a certain amount of "political capital". If he spends it on one thing, there is less to spend elsewhere. I am pretty sure that Bernie would rather spend his political capital on income disparity rather than on raw meat for the Cheney haters.r

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
27. I actually think it would be more likely that a Sanders administration could bring a charge of
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jun 2015

'fraud' (against the people of the United States), the war crimes and crimes against humanity deriving from that underlying crime of fraud.

'Could-a, should-a, would-a' -- the three most popular phrases heard in Vegas.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
28. While I sincerely hope Sanders becomes President,
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 10:11 AM
Jun 2015

It is far too early, as in 18 months too early, to be speculating on specifics of a Sanders Presidency. Same with a Clinton Presidency 2 for the Hillary supporters.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
29. It shouldn't.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jun 2015

Prosecution of previous administrations by subsequent administrations sets a terrible precedent and is explicitly-not-done as a matter of not mere-decorum but the continued well-functioning of the Republic. I'd go so far as to say it should be codified as a matter of law that no President or administration should be permitted to do so.

Riddle me this...what stops a subsequent Republican administration from seeking prosecution in federal or international courts against members of this or any Democratic administration for any discretionary decisions of the administration they disagree with which they believe they can pursue? The charges don't even have to be legitimate if the means exists to venue-shop which it certainly does for the DoJ.

The Republic will fail eventually unless Sanders or any Democratic nominee takes it off the table. It should have been permanently forebeared in the law even by now to prevent reprisal prosecution of previous administrations.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
31. How would he since its requires the legislative & judical branches...
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:07 PM
Jun 2015

of which he has no control or authority over.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
32. Probably not. With other former leaders and war crimes
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 01:25 PM
Jun 2015

they were either charged very shortly after the events, or many decades later. (ex. Pinochet)

Obama had a window, decided not to take it because Republicans in Congress would make it so difficult to do anything. Boy that sounds oddly familiar.

So it will probably be left alone for another decade or so.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
35. Well this would be a clear policy difference...Good question
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jun 2015

He should be willing to make a statement. Who will ask?

I see Obama has been bashed over this here on DU quite frequently. Then reading the gentle responses on behalf of Sanders, I suspect there are too many that gently don't want to put Sanders in that position of verbalizing an opinion that may not be realistic or reasonable.

Along the same lines....is Bernie ready to prosecute bankers the minute he gets into office?

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