And They Call Themselves Christians

[CajunBlazer]

In this blog entry (http://www.cajunscomments.com/and-they-call-themselves-christians/) I discussed the decidedly unchristian ways of some Christians.

[jberryhill]

1. "Francis" not "Frances"

But conservative Protestant Christians believe the Pope is a tool of the Antichrist anyway.

[Bluenorthwest]

2. Ah, that's not exactly the case, Vatican had a big confernce with them all, Francis the keynote:

Vatican Strengthens Ties with Evangelicals and Mormons Against Gay Marriage
The presence of American evangelicals and the LDS Church was particularly notable. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, and Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, each gave speeches, and representatives from the Heritage Foundation and the Family Research Council in Washington attended. President Henry Eyring of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ first presidency spoke and Elder Tom Perry of the LDS’s Quorum of the Twelve also joined. In the United States, this trio of faiths has worked together to stand against the government’s Affordable Care Act’s contraception mandate, but it was the first time they were coming together at the Vatican to talk about marriage.
Adds Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council: “The atmosphere was almost euphoric as the attendees from six of the world’s seven continents broke from the historic gathering to return to their respective nations renewed in their stand for marriage,” he says. “The courts may declare otherwise, and Hollywood may depict its demise, but the union of a man and a woman as the natural and enduring definition of marriage will endure until the end.”
http://time.com/3597245/vatican-evangelicals-mormons-gay-marriage/

So yeah, they all think he's the devil but they attend his conferences and speak glowingly of them. Got it.

[CajunBlazer]

4. They will find that the new Pope isn't a conserviative

While maybe not a liberal by any means, Pope Francis is by far the most liberal Pope in my lifetime which includes John-Paul.

[Bluenorthwest]

5. If you had bothered to read the link and the post, you would see that the 'New Pope' invited all of

those people to an anti gay conference and they all had a grand time. He is courting them, they are courting him because they are all conservatives, strongly opposed to reproductive choice, LGBT rights and people, devoted to a traditional society-conservative. A preacher talking about the poor does not mean they are not in fact a conservative, Benedict wrote a lot about poverty and globalization as well.
Francis has been the Pope for two years, and and he's not the 'new Pope' anymore, he's the Pope and you did not even bother to address the information I posted which demonstrates the lack of respect you have for the facts and for other people.

Read the article like an honest person and discuss it. Stop bullshitting. This is important. You can't deny all the facts and retain any credibility.

[CajunBlazer]

3. Well...

thanks, I never was a good speller because spelling in the English language is often not logical.

I didn't conservative Protestant Christians believe the Pope is a tool of the Antichrist, but I'm not surprised. There views on religion are warped beyond belief.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. You are duplicitous with this issue. Look at what I posted, conservative protestants attend

3 day conferences in Rome as Vatican invitees, with Francis addressing them and Tony Perkins peeing his pants in right wing bigoted joy.
You can't have it both ways, he's slapping back with the entire religious right and organizing against my rights and those of women so you really should not be claiming the two groups do not get along as that serves their mutual and well publicized set of shared priorities and agenda. Does it not?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

10. You're going to need to back away from the personal attacks

Not everyone wants to read your pet article. Believe it or not, many of us have managed to lead our lives completely absent your articles and insults.

[CajunBlazer]

11. So what?

One of the hallmarks of a more liberal mind is to be able to converse with anyone. I remember a time when a Pope would not be meet with any other religious leaders not of his faith because if they weren't Cathodic they lacked any legitimacy. I didn't say or imply that Francis was some kind of big liberal; I only said that he was more liberal then any of his predecessors in my memory. And believe me, it that respect is he is a breath of fresh air for a fallen away Catholic such as myself.

I was raised by two very devout Catholics. My Dad was a Deacon, which if you are familiar with Catholic Holy Orders, you know a Deacon must go through a long training period, takes vows, and is one step below being a priest. I was an alter boy and attended a Catholic elementary and high school. I excelled in Theology classes. However, I have not been a practicing Catholic since my teens precisely because the overly conservative stances of the church on any number of issues including birth control - which I viewed as antiquated and just plain irrational, the role of women in the clergy, homosexuality, etc.

Pope Francis gives me hope that someday, probably long after I no longer walk this earth, the Catholic church will shed the harsh shell it has grown through the centuries. However, it is huge bureaucracy, a ocean liner of a ship which cannot turn on a dime. I fervently hope that Francis is beginning to steer it in the right direction.

[KamaAina]

6. Welcome to DU!

[CajunBlazer]

8. Thanks for the kind words

I'm learning the sometime this can sometimes be a tough crowd so kind words are most appreciated.

[KamaAina]

13. You noticed, huh?

We do have an Ignore feature to use when a particular poster rally, really annoys you.

[CajunBlazer]

15. That wouldn't be any fun

Sometimes you just have to say to yourself, "Is that really the best you've got' and shake your head in pity.

[KamaAina]

16. I don't use it, either

for similar reasons.

[Initech]

9. Have you seen Bill Maher's epic new rule from a couple of weeks ago?

He tears into the kind of Christians who say Christianity is under attack, but it appears that Christianity is under attack from no one but the people they call "leaders":

[CajunBlazer]

14. Maher at his best

Trite to write "LOL" - but I actually laughed out loud. Thanks much!

[rustydog]

12. I have a "Christian" co worker who talks about his church a lot

The other day he said if his church sponsored a tent city for the homeless, he'd have to leave the church.

[Initech]

17. Wow that's the exact opposite of what Jesus would do.