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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 07:21 PM Dec 2011

Romney tried to block woman from having life saving abortion - "why do you get off easy..."


Judith Dushku is a professor of history at Suffolk University, an outspoken Mormon feminist, and the mother of Dollhouse and Buffy star Eliza Dushku. She's also the founder of Exponent II, a Mormon feminist publication. In 1990, Ms. Dushku's magazine published the story of an anonymous 41 year old woman who experienced a life-threatening blood clot while she was pregnant for the sixth time. The woman was told by doctors that treatment of the clot would threaten the pregnancy, and so an abortion was necessary. The Mormon faith officially opposes abortion except in extreme cases, and women who are members of the church and seek an abortion are required to petition church elders for permission. She and her husband petitioned the Church to authorize them to receive the procedure, and a church elder told her and her husband that the procedure looked like unfortunate but unavoidable.

On the day of the abortion, the couple showed up at the hospital only to be greeted by their bishop, who had shown up, unannounced, to try to prevent her from going through with it, regardless of the fact that a church official with a higher rank than his had already given the okay. The bishop was determined to make his case against the life-saving surgery, and he was a total dick about it. According to a 2007 interview with Dushku, the following exchange occurred,

He said – What do you think you're doing?
She said – Well, we have to abort the baby because I have these blood clots.
And he said something to the effect of – Well, why do you get off easy when other women have their babies?

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The bishop who tried to block that selfish, selfish clotted up woman from saving her own life with a legal medical procedure was one Mitt Romney. The woman he attempted to block did go through with her abortion and lived to see her four teenage children grow up. Her family later left the church.


http://jezebel.com/5851050/the-curious-case-of-mitt-romney-an-abortion-and-eliza-dushkus-mom
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Romney tried to block woman from having life saving abortion - "why do you get off easy..." (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Dec 2011 OP
This story should get more attention. RandySF Dec 2011 #1
Absolutely!...This should be at least as famous as the "corporations are people" line. whathehell Dec 2011 #41
No wonder they left the church. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2011 #2
As a male, Dan Dec 2011 #5
I'm quite sure you're correct! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2011 #7
And over-population would be non-existent...n/t monmouth Dec 2011 #8
If men coud get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #12
And available at every corner convenience store. hobbit709 Dec 2011 #43
unfuckingbelievable!! JitterbugPerfume Dec 2011 #3
Dear MSM, here you go. Get on it! FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #4
MSM knows about Romney's history. "he's evolved since then" will be the word Liberal_in_LA Dec 2011 #10
This part of the article is very telling Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #6
Wow. Getting permission from the church to be pro-choice for the election only? Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #17
So, having an abortion to save a mother's life Ilsa Dec 2011 #32
a lot. this is a lifestyle heavily top down. roguevalley Dec 2011 #39
I think the only thing Romney actually believes Retrograde Dec 2011 #9
He and Gingrich KT2000 Dec 2011 #28
I have only one question: Brigid Dec 2011 #11
+1 xchrom Dec 2011 #13
A man that's going to seek permission from church for wife to have abortion is not Liberal_in_LA Dec 2011 #14
What an asshole! Quantess Dec 2011 #15
Probably a few too many contributions to anti-gay campaigns? Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #18
He was or is a bishop? Really? There should be some focus on that. LiberalFighter Dec 2011 #16
yes. he was a bishop. Over the Boston area. until he decided to go into politics. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2011 #20
FWIW, Mormon bishops are a lot more common than Catholic bishops. dimbear Dec 2011 #26
I think Mormon bishops KT2000 Dec 2011 #29
Unfortunately, this story will only help him in the Republican party. n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #19
Why do Republicans hate women? RandySF Dec 2011 #21
Yes, he revealed the real reason people are anti- cyglet Dec 2011 #22
You left out a word...WOMEN cant have sex without consequences. shraby Dec 2011 #23
It's an excuse cyglet Dec 2011 #24
I have never trusted Romney......... PDJane Dec 2011 #25
At least this explains why Mitt only moves diagonally. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #27
Romney as a Mormon "Bishop" will have some serious problems in the general. McCamy Taylor Dec 2011 #30
i'm glad the story's getting out. barbtries Dec 2011 #31
please keep this recorded DonCoquixote Dec 2011 #33
Romney's an asshole. ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #34
Maybe it's more about having a job at all in this economic climate. nt tblue37 Dec 2011 #35
???? Doc Holliday Dec 2011 #46
I think it's an honor system thing ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #48
Romney the person and Romney the candidate are two very different people Major Nikon Dec 2011 #36
Emphatic K&R. Filing in my "Who's the scummiest Repuke of 2012" file - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #37
since when do adults ask. and when do men have a say roguevalley Dec 2011 #38
Anyone beginning to see why Romney is the easiest one of these clowns to beat? NNN0LHI Dec 2011 #40
A link to this OP got mailed out to everyone on my email list. Hepburn Dec 2011 #42
And THAT is the sound of misogyny -- Remember Me Dec 2011 #44
Mitt desperately needs to be given an atomic wedgie with his magic underwear. n/t backscatter712 Dec 2011 #45
I would have said: "Because pregnancies with blood clots are not only not easy, rocktivity Dec 2011 #47

whathehell

(30,469 posts)
41. Absolutely!...This should be at least as famous as the "corporations are people" line.
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 08:48 AM
Dec 2011

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,620 posts)
2. No wonder they left the church.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 07:29 PM
Dec 2011

I'm so gobsmacked by his attitude that I can scarcely figure out what to say first.

What good is a family without its mother? Her four children and her husband needed her.

How dare Romney accuse her of getting off easy? Facing potentially lethal blood clots is hardly getting off easy.

And raising four children is hardly getting off easy either.

She was hardly selfish. Romney on the other hand... was being a right bastard.



Dan

(5,179 posts)
5. As a male,
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 07:37 PM
Dec 2011

I have always believed that if men got pregnant, we would never have another discussion on abortion rights, because it would be a done deal.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
6. This part of the article is very telling
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 07:39 PM
Dec 2011

'Several years later, Dushku was pleasantly surprised to read that Romney was running for Senate as a pro-choice candidate, and even thought she could lend her support to Romney and his newfound pro-woman political stance. When she visited his office, he told her that he only supported a pro-choice agenda because church elders in Provo had told him that it was the only way he'd win the seat in the liberal state.

Dushku expressed her dismay at Romney's position of convenience, and he replied that he was totally fine with being pro choice for the sake of a campaign, as he had an aunt who died of a botched abortion. The two parted ways unsatisfied, and shortly thereafter Dushku revealed that Romney was the anti-choice bishop who had blocked the anonymous woman from having an abortion more than a decade before. The two friends had a falling out and stopped speaking.'


The question should be asked how much the Mormon church is going to influence Romney if he would win.........

Bolo Boffin

(23,872 posts)
17. Wow. Getting permission from the church to be pro-choice for the election only?
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:15 PM
Dec 2011

That's amazing.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
32. So, having an abortion to save a mother's life
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 10:25 PM
Dec 2011

is immoral, but switching to pro-choice to win an election is cool with the church? No wonder more people are feeling like organized religion is steaming pile of untaxable crap.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
9. I think the only thing Romney actually believes
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 07:49 PM
Dec 2011

is that Romney should be president. From the article: Several years later, Dushku was pleasantly surprised to read that Romney was running for Senate as a pro-choice candidate, and even thought she could lend her support to Romney and his newfound pro-woman political stance. When she visited his office, he told her that he only supported a pro-choice agenda because church elders in Provo had told him that it was the only way he'd win the seat in the liberal state."

Why, Mitt, do you get off easy when other women have to live in the real world?

KT2000

(22,151 posts)
28. He and Gingrich
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 09:13 PM
Dec 2011

have much in common. With Mitt it is not as obvious that he has grandiose delusions but he sure does. Narcissist.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
11. I have only one question:
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:03 PM
Dec 2011

Why didn't that woman's husband beat the everloving crap out of Mitt Romney?

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
14. A man that's going to seek permission from church for wife to have abortion is not
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:10 PM
Dec 2011

going to beat up a Mormon Bishop.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
15. What an asshole!
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:11 PM
Dec 2011

Also, he doesn't want to disclose his IRS statements to the voting public.
FUCK HIM!!

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
20. yes. he was a bishop. Over the Boston area. until he decided to go into politics.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:17 PM
Dec 2011

stuff about it on the web if you search

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
26. FWIW, Mormon bishops are a lot more common than Catholic bishops.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:43 PM
Dec 2011

You can't compare across that boundary. A much smaller deal.

KT2000

(22,151 posts)
29. I think Mormon bishops
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 09:21 PM
Dec 2011

are more like deacons that Catholic or Episcopal bishops.
Worked with a Mormon bishop who counseled his church people during work hours (federal gov.). He was also having an affair with a woman in the building. His wife had nearly died giving birth to their 8th child.
Religion is a breeding ground for hypocrites.

cyglet

(529 posts)
22. Yes, he revealed the real reason people are anti-
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:21 PM
Dec 2011

abortion and birth control....that you can't have sex without consequences.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
23. You left out a word...WOMEN cant have sex without consequences.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:27 PM
Dec 2011

For men, they get a pass.

cyglet

(529 posts)
24. It's an excuse
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 08:37 PM
Dec 2011

to keep women down, and the Mormons, Catholics, and Evangelicals all agree on the point. The cute widdle babies are a convenient sacrificial lamb.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
30. Romney as a Mormon "Bishop" will have some serious problems in the general.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 09:26 PM
Dec 2011

No one wants a clergyman as president in the US.

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
31. i'm glad the story's getting out.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 09:28 PM
Dec 2011

what a dick. i believe the LDS is one of the most sexist of religious organizations - i don't want to see any mormon in the white house for that reason.

DonCoquixote

(13,961 posts)
33. please keep this recorded
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 10:51 PM
Dec 2011

When people keep saying "well Mitt is not THAT hardline." For him to buck higher ups in the Mormons, who ALREADY APPROVED THE ABORTION, shows he has an ego.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
34. Romney's an asshole.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 11:18 PM
Dec 2011

But I can't get over the fact that the couple went to the church to ask for authorization to get the abortion. I just don't understand adults who hand over decision making to someone else.

My niece works for a Christian college and she had to sign a pledge stating she wouldn't watch R rated movies and wouldn't drink. I don't know what else what on the list but she's a grown woman with a husband and child and a college graduate and yet she is willing to have her employer tell her what kind of movies she can watch. I DON'T GET IT.

Doc Holliday

(719 posts)
46. ????
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 04:22 PM
Dec 2011

"My niece works for a Christian college and she had to sign a pledge stating she wouldn't watch R rated movies and wouldn't drink. I don't know what else what on the list but she's a grown woman with a husband and child and a college graduate and yet she is willing to have her employer tell her what kind of movies she can watch."

Unless she lives in a very small town, enforcement might be problematical. Does the college have her under 24/7 surveillance or something?

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
48. I think it's an honor system thing
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 09:12 PM
Dec 2011

and she wouldn't sign it if she wasn't going to stick to it. Now that I think more about it it must have said PG-13 because she "couldn't" go see Avatar and it's rated PG-13.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
36. Romney the person and Romney the candidate are two very different people
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:45 AM
Dec 2011

As a person and a Mormon he was obviously anti-choice. As a candidate for Governor, he was pro-choice. Now as a candidate for the GOP nomination, he's anti-choice again.

Other than showing conclusively that he's a dick, this story also shows that he's a perennial flip-flopper who says whatever he thinks will get him elected.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
38. since when do adults ask. and when do men have a say
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 06:18 AM
Dec 2011

Her husband and her are it on the decision and in the end its really hers alone.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
40. Anyone beginning to see why Romney is the easiest one of these clowns to beat?
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 06:26 AM
Dec 2011

He has a record like this as long as my arm.

And it is not a good one either.

Don

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
42. A link to this OP got mailed out to everyone on my email list.
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 09:37 AM
Dec 2011

Mitt Romney ~~ what a total asshole...and that is an insult to assholes.

 

Remember Me

(1,532 posts)
44. And THAT is the sound of misogyny --
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:32 PM
Dec 2011

"Why do you think you get off when other women have their babies (or die trying -- hehe, isn't patriarchy grand)?"

I honestly didn't think he was THAT bad of a misogynist. I obviously was wrong.

I frequent a site where apparently a lot of young Mormon women hang out. OMG, you wouldn't believe the cult of wedding planning and the cult of maternity (especially grotesque in mind because they tend to glorify photos pregnant women's bellies, both clothed and naked -- blech!). It's disgusting.

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
47. I would have said: "Because pregnancies with blood clots are not only not easy,
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 06:56 PM
Dec 2011

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they're potentially fatal. Now get the hell out of my way -- if you'll pardon the expression!"


rocktivity

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