Rude Pundit: 'The Confederate flag, in all its forms, represents a defeated nation of racist'

[Hissyspit]

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'traitors. Sorry, Assholes.'

He posted that on his Facebook page in response to this National Review Piece:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/420003/blood-stained-banner-charleston-ian-tuttle

[Skittles]

1. it is embarrassing that so many low-lifes embrace that digusting flag

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it is offensive to ALL DECENT AMERICANS

[bonniebgood]

2. I must remember that line. 'It represents a defeated Nation of

racist." I always saw it as a symbol of pro slavery.

[malaise]

3. K & R

for truth

[keroro gunsou]

4. the only confederate flag that should matter

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[Fast Walker 52]

8. amen!

[fasttense]

5. It also represents the absolute failure of slavery

As a viable economic system. It's rather comical that a bunch of seriously lazy white people who had to import others to do their work for them started a war so they could force others to do what they were too lazy to do. And now they hate the people who refused to be their slaves but love the symbol of their failure.

[redruddyred]

11. my favorite racist parent says

having slaves was hard b/c black people are so lazy.
jump all over that bro.

[Enthusiast]

12. You make some good points.

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. The plunder of slavery continued on into Jim Crow and continues yet today

It is outright theft of the wealth and labor of black people, and you're kidding yourself to think it was a failure. It built the US, it built the tony suburbs that white people live in to this day, it built to US GDP. If you're rich in America, you're rich because, directly or indirectly, of the labor of enslaved and oppressed African peoples. It's not even a close question.

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23. The failure I was referring to was the failure to win the war they started.

Which is what the Confederated flag really symbolizes is one giant failure by slave owning whites.

The concentration camps, I mean plantations, they set up to torture and force labor from abused people were quite successful for a few very rich Southern whites. The plantations were very similar to the Nazi concentration camps with their forced labor and use of torture. It was not such a good deal for the middle class in the South because they couldn't get a job that the slaves were NOT already doing for free. And the poor whites in the South were used as cannon fodder, jailers and executioners.

And yet these lazy rich white people manage to convince almost half our country that we should hate the people who escaped their Southern concentration camps.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

6. I have come across some who claim that the Confederate flag honors those who fought for the South

I respond that I have known men who fought with honor and distinction for Germany in WWII. Should we fly the Hakenkreuz flag to honor them?

I also respond to those who use the term "War of Northern Aggression" with "No, the proper term is 'War of Southern Treason'".

[Fast Walker 52]

9. indeed

and remember Saint Reagan placing a wreath at the Nazi cemetery?

[Enthusiast]

13. I think Reagan was secretly, ideologically a Nazi.

Just a thought.

[unblock]

15. the republican leadership is effectively fascist if you can get away from the emotional triggers

the basic ideological split in the republican party is between those who think the only real mistake hitler made was killing the jews and those who think his only real mistake was invading russia.

in all seriousness, they believe in government authoritarianism and in particular, intervention on behalf of businesses. mussolini would be proud.

[Enthusiast]

16. I agree.

[paleotn]

7. From the bottom of my born and bred southern heart......

....Rude is spot on.

[Fast Walker 52]

10. where is this post?

is there a link? I didn't see comments on the piece.

[Hissyspit]

20. I apologize. It's on his Facebook page.

I had that in my original draft when I first typed it on my phone, but my phone deleted it and I inadvertently left it out when I retyped it.

[Fast Walker 52]

22. thanks-- I looked on his blog and didn't see it

Will check FB

[redruddyred]

14. from what I remember, a lot of it was abt us vs them pride

'them' being the yankees.
time to drop it tho, too many racist connotations.
southerners lie to themselves and say the war wasn't abt slavery. maybe at the beginning.
predictably, everyone with a confederate flag sticker on their bumper is also driving a monster truck and has a couple others abt killing the gay baby whales and libruls. if ur lucky, you can hear their rush limbaugh too.

[Archae]

17. The South lost the war, but won the propaganda war.

Painting their "cause" as just, and painting themselves as noble, God-fearing brave defenders of the family.

When has anyone ever made a movie showing what Quantrill's Raiders did to a whole town?

No, instead there are movies like "Birth Of A Nation," "Gone With The Wind," and "Outlaw Josie Wales."

Pro-confederate groups like "League Of The South" and "VDARE" still thrive.

[randr]

18. In the mid 50's you would see an occasional Confederate flag bumpersticker

or more commonly mud flaps; often seen with the "Born to Lose" slogan on a bumper sticker and tattoos.
Southern "Pride", in my mind, has always been associated with losers and traitors.

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24. Born to lose a very good description

of people who honor the confederate flag.

[Iggo]

21. Hear.Fucking.Hear.