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[WillyT]

Knee-deep in blood: We are all being held hostage by Wayne LaPierre’s children
TBogg - RawStory
18 Jun 2015 at 16:14 ET



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Jesus.

Here we are again, talking about this again.

Let us state for the record that there is critical mass of Americans in this country whose very existence is based upon ignorance, paranoia, racism, seething hatred, bitterness, and bigotry. They can’t get up in the morning unless they have someone to hate or look down upon, because that is what lifts them up and makes their world seem not so shitty.

And occasionally this animating animus bubbles up to the surface and racist all-cap rants on Facebook won’t make the pain go away — and there is the NRA is standing by with, as they say at the hardware stores: “the right tool for the right job.”

Because Wayne LaPierre’s terrorist-enabling organization does their damndest to make sure weapons are unregulated, cheap, and plentiful, practically any U.S. citizen can settle any trifling argument with as little as three pounds of pressure on a trigger.

•The mother of Adam Lanza — who had severe emotional problems — kept her home stocked with multiple weapons and thought it would be a good idea to bring her son out of his shell by teaching him how to shoot. How did that work out? 26 people dead at Sandy Hook — 20 of whom we’re children 7-years-old or younger. Also: Nancy Lanza. Adam Lanza brought a shotgun, an AR15 assault weapon, and two handguns with him to the elementary school.

•Elliot Rodgers of Santa Barbara couldn’t get laid and hated women. His solution: he killed 6 people and wounded fourteen others. His weapons of choice: 3 handguns, all purchased legally under the benevolent gaze of Wayne LaPierre.

•Craig Stephen Hicks had a parking dispute with some Muslim students near the campus of University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He executed all three of them with a shot to the head. He liked to carry his .38 on his hip, because he was an open-carry enthusiast.

•Another open-carry enthusiast –Alex Kozak — sexually harassed a woman at the mall where he worked. After losing his job, he returned to the mall with his 9mm and shot 20-year-old Andrea Farrington 3-times. In the back.

•And now Dylann Storm Roof sat in a predominately black church in Charleston, South Carolina, before opening fire and killing nine African-Americans, explaining, “You rape our women and you’re taking over our country — and you have to go.” Dylann had a history of brushes with the law, was arrested in February on drug charges in addition to being kicked out of a mall for acting “weird,” and was described by his uncle as a “loner” who stayed cooped up in his room. He was given a .45 handgun in April for his birthday. By his father.

The NRA is not solely to blame here, although they certainly believe they are 100 percent in the clear because, hey, who can possibly know what people are going to do with a fine piece of machinery designed to kill? You also have idiot parents who think weapons can be therapeutic or might make swell gifts for their oddball kids.

But the NRA, under LaPierre, has its blood-soaked hands smudging-up every attempt at passing laws that might slow down our national genocide, including recently stopping a law that would have kept guns out of the hands of domestic abusers in Louisiana.

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Link: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/knee-deep-in-blood-we-are-all-being-held-hostage-by-wayne-lapierres-children/

[Romeo.lima333]

1. he's the head of the terrorist network called the nra and with it are millions of sleeper

cells with their wmd's, their guns.

[villager]

3. sleeper cells and lone wolves do actually describe a great deal of their membership....

...who are all lurking out there, waiting to "go off...."

No offense to actual wolves intended, btw...

[Thinkingabout]

2. NRA may have been a good organization at one time but now they are one of the worst organizations.

They only want to sell guns and don't give a damn about safety anymore. I just don't understand why so many congressional members cow down to the NRA when the largest percentage of Americans wants some controls. Just goes to show we need a larger percent of voters going to the polls targeting those who votes the NRA way rather than our way.

[KittyWampus]

16. Isn't there a sane alternative gun club? It sort of reminds me of AIPAC.

They are an extension of the Far Right Likud in Israel, they have both Dem and Rep Congress critters by the short hairs and get all the air time… but where is the sane alternative.

They have to be out there.

[Thinkingabout]

19. If the radical thinking members who could influence the higher ups to drop

The ugly parts (not going to happen) or just leave the organization. I understand there is another organization. I also hear once you join NRA they never take you off their list. As much as we have tried Congressional members jumps to the NRA music. It would be hard to target and remove the NRA voters but we have to scare them into sensible gun control.

[classof56]

35. Yep, it took me several years to persuade the NRA to remove my late brother from their list.

As administrator of his estate, I received his mail. For awhile, I would return the "literature" in the mailings with the note that he'd passed away (no, not by gunshot, although there would have been a certain irony if he had). Then I'd send stuff back in their postage paid envelope, noting that he was still dead, please drop him from their list. No luck. You'd think after awhile the fact he'd not renewed his dues would have been a clue, but whoever ran the NRA funding campaign isn't too bright, it seems. The last straw was the one that arrived not long after the Trayvon Martin tragedy. I answered their ugly rhetoric with some rather pointed comments of my own, and included a photo of Trayvon upon which I noted, "You are responsible for the death of this beautiful young man!" Pretty sure the NRA did not agree, and of course did not care, but haven't heard from them since, so that musta worked. Whatever. The gun violence prevalent in this country is sickening, beyond disturbing and as many have said in this forum, won't change soon, 'cause of that second amendment thing, y'know. Makes me very sad, and I weep for the latest victims who died in their place of worship. We all deserve better.

[Kablooie]

4. Yawn.

Unfortunately that's the only reaction I can have.

This will continue to occur and we are totally powerless to to anything about it.

The NRA has a complete stranglehold on our government and there's no indication that this will ever be changed.
We can bitch and complain all we want but it's become evident that there is no possible way to overcome the entrenched evil in our society. Evil is admired and treasured by such a large and powerful segment of our country that we have to either accept it or leave to another country.

This is America. It is who we are. Damn it.

[tavernier]

5. Follow the money.

👞👞👞👞👞👞👞👞$$

[Kablooie]

8. Yep. If there was only a way to make these events hurt someone rich in the pocketbook.

Then we would start to see some changes made.

[Eleanors38]

26. Over 80,000,000 Americans own guns, and some 75% believe 2A is an individual RKBA.

Take away the NRA and another group will replace it, just as there are already several other 100k member groups. Beyond the usual economic determinist arguments, there is the more prosaic argument of Widespread support of the Second Amendment.

I doubt it is "evil" which is treasured here as much as celebrity.

[friendly_iconoclast]

32. As bad as the NRA is (and they're pretty bad), Gun Owners of America is worse

NRA is to GOA what Al Queda is to ISIS

[Eleanors38]

42. Yes, indeed. Frankly, the NRA has a tiger by the tail.

[TNNurse]

6. I am going to the beach

with family today. Traditionally we do not watch TV while there. i may have to stay off the internet for awhile,too.

This is so true. Watching Malala on The Daily Show has helped by mood....but I find myself screaming at the TV and the computer.

I have so little hope for the future. Someone has elected awful people in government and they are clearly bought and paid for by other awful people.

44 years ago I graduated from college and moved to SC for a teaching job. I probably need to write about it. Sounds like a lot of people are just the same.

[calimary]

29. If you do decide to write about it, you may find it tremendously therapeutic.

If you write about it, I would like to read it. I'm sure others here would, too.

I need to find some sort of way to understand the mentality of the South. It's just freakin' ALIEN to me, some of what they believe in. I don't understand it. It doesn't compute. Your writing from your personal perspective would be most illuminating.

[SoapBox]

7. Shut them down...

At least take away their "non-profit" status...let them preach and push their HATE while paying taxes.

[SCantiGOP]

9. speaking of gun free zones

Guns were not allowed into the recent NRA national convention, and people who were entering went through metal detectors and were subject to being frisked. If guns make people safer why wasn't everyone who entered handed a gun? Fucking hypocrites. Somehow our political system has to rein these assholes in.

[GGJohn]

30. Not this shit again.

It wasn't the NRA doing that, it was the owner of he property.

[napkinz]

10. K&R

[world wide wally]

11. The picture in the OP is hauntingly accurate

[Skittles]

12. catering to the whims of COWARDS

[Ed Suspicious]

13. Hello, suicidal person. You have problems? Let me teach you how to tie a noose.

"The mother of Adam Lanza — who had severe emotional problems — kept her home stocked with multiple weapons and thought it would be a good idea to bring her son out of his shell by teaching him how to shoot. How did that work out? 26 people dead at Sandy Hook — 20 of whom we’re children 7-years-old or younger. Also: Nancy Lanza. Adam Lanza brought a shotgun, an AR15 assault weapon, and two handguns with him to the elementary school. "

[Thinkingabout]

20. Sucidial only people only wants to harm themselves, homicidal people wants to kill others.

You also have suicidal and homicidal people and they harm themselves and others.

[Ed Suspicious]

21. It was meant as an illustration of a parallel. As a ridiculous situation where

insecure and unstable people are provided with and given instruction in the tools of death as a means of boosting their self esteem.

I suppose it works sometimes - a kid with emotional issues is introduced to shooting sports and he comes out of his shell and prospers. It just seems like a recipe for disaster.

[EL34x4]

15. One slight error in this article.

Dylan Roof did not receive his .45 handgun from his father as a gift.

He bought it himself. At a gun shop. After completing a background check. With a pending felony on his record.

One of the questions that needs to be asked is why did NICS fail to discover that Roof was a prohibited person? And how many other "prohibited persons" have slipped through the cracks?

[beevul]

31. Thats not the only thing.

The usage of the word "unregulated" is "creative nonfiction" to it mildly.

Guns are ANYTHING BUT unregulated in America.

[og1]

17. It is more then just the nra

These are the fruits of the republican southern strategy. This fruit was sown with seeds of hate in very fertile southern ground. And every day this crop is fertilized by fox bs fertilizer. This gmo crop of hate is resistant to compassion and love for their community members. The last time this much hate consumed a country was Germany in the mid thirties. And the german young people carried out the final solution!

[JDPriestly]

22. Yes. The problem is the right-wing mentality that views violence as a solution.

If it weren't guns, it would be a political movement that expressed these same racist, intolerant feelings of hate.

Hate is the problem.

In NAZI Germany, they did not have these hate-filled shootings by individuals. The haters organized and then acted violently against groups of people and individuals.

The Confederate flag should not be flying in the South. People should not collect guns and use them on others they are angry at or hate. But the fundamental problems are not the flag or the guns. The fundamental problem is the hate.

We need to work on the fundamental problem and not get distracted by the symptoms of the problem. The guns and the traitorous flag are the symptoms. They are the outer manifestations of the inner hate.

In the 1960s, Martin Luther King led a mass movement, a non-violent movement against the hate. That seems to have died slowly since his death. It is that mass movement of all of us opposing the hatred and bringing non-violence and understanding in its stead that we need to focus on.

The problem with focusing on the guns and the flag too much (although the laws on purchasing and perhaps having guns need to be changed) is that we shift the focus from ourselves to that other guy out there who is bad and who deserves to be hated (in our own of course very polite way) because he flies a bad flag or because he owns a gun. We don't want to just adopt a kind of mild version of hatred ourselves.

What we need is a revival of our 1960s movement for inclusion and love, not yet another my side versus your side attack on other people's symptoms of hate.

[Hestia]

36. You've hit the head of the nail - Teaching Peace. The problem is that the very people who could

train a generation - teachers - get fired for the littlest thing these days. School Boards/Superintendents, et al don't give a flying crap what the parents want, it is the ideology of the school board that is taught.

When I went to a private school K-5, all the young teachers were former Peace Corp. Volunteers. (I wonder if part of their salary was underwritten by the feds.) Boy, did they bring that ideology and really hammer it home to us about social justice, peace, environmental aspects, etc. The older teachers were old school about discipline but the younger teachers talk to us rather than at us.

Could you imagine a group of real teachers emphasizing being allowed to continue their messaging all these years, how different the world could be? Yes, I know the problems with the Peace Corps. but the teachers I came into contact with were True Believers in making the world a better place, one student at a time. I can't be the only one to remember...

Instead the humanities have been drummed out of school and discipline and STEM have been emphasized. We need both to really understand the local community (micro) to the large world (macro). It all goes hand in hand.

[JDPriestly]

43. Thanks. Beautiful memory.

[geardaddy]

18. La Pierre has earned this merit badge on numerous occasions.

[calimary]

23. THIS. IS. IT.

And yeah, I think we need to ramp up the language. We need to target the NRA. HELP PEOPLE CONNECT THE DOTS.

As long as we are repeatedly told the 2nd Amendment is untouchable and sacrosanct (if it's THAT goddam holy, WHY ISN'T IT THE FIRST AMENDMENT, then?), then nothing can get done.

WHY CAN'T WE OVERHAUL the 2nd Amendment????? It ISN'T the Holy Grail or a direct relic from the Cross of Christ. It ISN'T the very tablets that Moses brought down from the mountaintop. It does NOT have ANY DNA of Jesus Christ on it. There is no God nor Allah nor Yahweh nor Zeus nor Odin nor Horus nor ANYBODY ELSE sitting on the biggest throne in the Great Upstairs who is standing guard over it with fiery sword to chop off our fingers if we do touch it.

It IS touchable. AND adjustable. AND rewritable. AND fixable. AND VERY worthy - AND IN DESPERATE NEED of changing.

And nobody here or anywhere else on earth is going to change my mind about that. Go ahead and waste your breath.

[KitSileya]

27. Amen!

I wrote on another thread that the US is not a civilized country because a group of citizens has been given the right to terrorize other citizens with their guns, and that has prevented the US from growing into a civilized country, and unless something is done, it will slide further into lawlessness and destruction. All because of the 2nd Amendment. Those who keep fighting for the 2nd Amendment, for gun ownership, are working for the destruction of America. It's as simple as that. The fear the lovers of murder toys are cultivating, both among themselves and among those they terrorize by the very gun ownership they advocate, is destroying the US bit by bit. On their heads be it - but the lives that will be lost first are those of minorities. The murder toy lovers on DU deserves to feel the fear on their own bodies.

[friendly_iconoclast]

33. The Second Amendment can be repealed

What are *you* doing to help bring about the following?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution

Proposing amendments

Whenever they "shall deem it necessary", two-thirds of both houses of Congress may "propose amendments". This means two-thirds of those members present—assuming that a quorum exists at the time that the vote is cast—and not necessarily a two-thirds vote of the entire membership elected and serving in the two houses of Congress.[4] It was suggested that the two houses first adopt a resolution indicating that they deem an amendment necessary, but this procedure has never been used—the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives instead directly proceed to the adoption of a joint resolution, thereby proposing the amendment with the implication that both bodies deem the amendment to be "necessary". Up to now, all amendments have been proposed and implemented as codicils appended to the main body of the Constitution...

Ratification of amendments

After being officially proposed, either by Congress or a national convention of the states, a constitutional amendment must then be ratified by the legislatures of, or by ratifying conventions, in at least three-fourths of the states. Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution that have been ratified, Congress has specified the state conventions ratification method for only one: the 21st Amendment, which became part of the Constitution in 1933. Most states hold elections specifically for the purpose of choosing delegates. New Mexico provides, by state law, that the members of its legislature be the delegates at such a state ratification convention.

[malaise]

24. Fugging YES!!!

Rec

[Rex]

25. .

[DebbieCDC]

28. America has always reveled in its "wild west" persona

It will be ever thus....sadly

[colsohlibgal]

34. Total Madness

When 5 year olds being shot in the face does nothing you know insanity rules with these idiots. To argue even against even simple background checks proves how nuts they are, they are willing to let people with mental issues tote military grade weapons.

Australia had a horrible mass shooting 15 or so years ago and they did something about it. In the USA nothing changes.

It all stems from a complete misunderstanding of the 2nd Amendment - written at a time when we had no standing army and there were threats not here today. It was not meant as a justification for gun rights for everyone in 2015, no questions asked.

[tiptonic]

37. For a reason

LaPierre is in that position for a reason. He will do what ever he is told to do, to increase profits for the gun manufactures. Another Bush, if you will.

[Paladin]

38. Excellent article. (nt)

[Logical]

39. Except collecting all guns, what gun law would of prevented these killings? nt

[packman]

40. As told to me on a previous thread concerning guns

You people are too emotional. Statistics (which the challenger cited) prove that only a small percentage of guns are used in violent acts. Besides , the Second Amendment , the Second Amendment, the Second Amendment, ad infinitum.

No matter how many are slaughtered or what ethic or racial background are slaughtered, you will never sway the cult of gun ownership. Might as well

[ewagner]

41. Really appreciate TBogg's columns

Used to follow him on his own blog...common sense and direct, to-the-point prose.

[spanone]

44. here's what poses as 'gun safety/education' on the nra website's mainpage

this kind of SHIT / fuck the nra and their politics.




surely he's talking about this guy, eh?

[aikoaiko]

45. Sadly LaPierre is more powerful then ever and the anti-gun crowd helped him.

I really hoped that the bizarre statements by WLP after Sandy Hook would be his undoing. I was on the phone with two Board of Directors telling them the era of WLP was over and that he could not handle a proper response to the Sandy Hook tragedy. They were sympathetic.

Hubris consumed the anti-gun contingent who didn't think they needed the NRA. They were so sure that Sandy Hook had changed everything that they were fine with alienating the NRA.

But then lost. They lost each and every legislative effort on the federal level.

Now when I talk to one of those Board of Directors, he just shrugs when I criticize WLP.

There was a different model that could have worked. We saw it happen after the VirginiaTech massacre.

BySCOTT CONROYCBS/APJune 13, 2007, 12:16 PM
NRA, Democrats Team Up To Pass Gun Bill

After 52 years in Congress, John Dingell knows it sometimes takes a "rather curious alliance," such as between the National Rifle Association and the House's most fervent gun control advocate, to move legislation.

That's what took place Wednesday when the House, by voice vote, passed a gun control bill that Rep. Dingell, D-Mich., helped broker between the NRA and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y.

With the NRA on board, the bill, which fixes flaws in the national gun background check system that allowed the Virginia Tech shooter to buy guns despite his mental health problems, has a good chance of becoming the first major gun control law in more than a decade.

"We'll work with anyone, if you protect the rights of law-abiding people under the second amendment and you target people that shouldn't have guns," NRA chief Wayne LaPierre told CBS News Correspondent Sharyl Atkisson

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nra-democrats-team-up-to-pass-gun-bill/