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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:18 PM May 2012

CBS/NYT Poll: Romney By 3

CBS/NYT Poll: Romney By 3

A new national poll from CBS News and the New York Times shows former Massachusetts Gov. and likely Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney with a 3 point lead, 46 percent to 43 percent overall. The internals of the poll show Romney leading with men by 3 points, women by 2, and taking unaffiliated voters by 7. The TPM Poll Average shows Romney with a 1.9 percent lead at the moment.

“Romney now leads the President among independents; they were nearly tied among this group last month,” pollsters wrote in their analysis. “Obama beats Romney among moderates. Both candidates continue to perform well with their political base: the President gets solid support from Democrats and liberals, while Romney is running strong with Republicans and conservatives. More than seven in 10 white evangelicals are backing Romney – similar to last month.”

However, the poll was conducted in a different way than most surveys – pollsters interviewed registered voters that were surveyed by CBS/NYT in their April poll and called them back, which lessens the amount of people that can (and want to be) reached, which could give more weight to enthusiastic voters who want to give their opinion.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/cbs-nyt-poll-romney-by-3


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Romney leads Obama among registered voters, 46 percent to 43 percent. While this is the first time that Romney had led in the CBS News/New York Times poll, his lead is within the poll's margin of error for registered voters of +/- 4.1 percentage points.

The poll is actually a panel-back survey: Respondents to this poll were originally interviewed in mid-April for the previous CBS News/New York Times poll. In the mid-April survey, Obama and Romney ran dead even, with each candidate earning 46 percent of the vote.

Panel-back surveys are conducted for a number of reasons: Some pollsters occasionally consider it instructive to interview the same universe of people before and after a specific event. In other cases, it is simply cheaper to dial phone numbers behind which pollsters know are voters who are willing to answer public-opinion surveys; in doing so, pollsters avoid many of the nearly four-in-five adults who decline to participate in telephone polls.

But the practice also has drawbacks. Not every respondent to the original poll is available or willing to be interviewed again; indeed, of the 852 registered voters interviewed last month, just 562 were re-interviewed for this survey. Some analysts also believe that the experience of being interviewed previously affects how they view the race, potentially making them more likely to seek out information about politics and the presidential race, though the results of the poll are virtually identical to those of the previous survey.

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http://nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/romney-edges-obama-in-panel-back-survey-20120514

"Romney By 3" if you stand on your head, close one eye and try to focus on a sign five yards away that says: "WTF?"

Poll this way!





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rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
2. I think we should err on the side of caution until the networks announce Obama the winner...
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:22 PM
May 2012

For instance, this a poll of likely voters. As you know there is a huge Republican effort to block as many Dem voters as possible this time. There will also be the usual misdirection through robotic calls and flyers sending people to the wrong polling places on the wrong day. Then there are the vagaries of electronic voting. There are a lot of things that can steal this election.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
4. There's just no way in hell that the M$M is going to not make
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:27 PM
May 2012

this a horse race, Rmoney could be indicted for owning and running a slavery operation while being photographed making a blood offering to Satan, and somehow the polls will put him within the margin of error.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
5. CBS admits this poll is incomplete as they re-interviewed the same people
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:35 PM
May 2012

from last months poll. Many of those people were not available for the interview.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. Romney is hanging by threads...We all know Obama is going to win Re-election...
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:58 PM
May 2012

and that's why it's hard to take this MSM stuff seriously since we know who is pushing it.

Obama is going to WIN...and that's why we Dems have to keep after him to keep him "honest."

It's our job to do this.

It's what he asked us to do when he ran for President.

 

Marzupialis

(398 posts)
8. One day I will stop feeling sorry for the American voter
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:28 PM
May 2012

Voters elected George W. Bush; no surprise if Romney were elected by dumb-ass voters.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
9. Bring it on! Then, when Obama wins by 10 points....
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:39 PM
May 2012

I will revel in the MSM corporate whores running for the hills post election.

abolugi

(417 posts)
10. Snip Rmoney HAS to win Ohio
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:55 PM
May 2012

in order to even have a chance of getting to 270.
Obama is creaming him in the electoral math.

And no way in HELL is he ahead with women...
Although I noticed CNN ran with it all day...

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
11. Is the poll used as the baseline the one where CBS used a voter turnout from the 2010 election
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:59 PM
May 2012

Which way overstates Republicans? The only thing that scares me is they don't even try to hide the lies.

tritsofme

(17,371 posts)
12. More relevant data point from this survey: Obama job approval @ 50%
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:01 PM
May 2012

Horserace numbers are pretty meaningless at this point.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
18. Which makes me wonder--how is his job approval at 50%
Tue May 15, 2012, 11:47 AM
May 2012

if he's only getting 43% of the vote?

No one is going to make the pollsters answer these questions. Instead, what the media will do is start with the "HORSE RACE!" meme.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
14. May hasn't been a good month for us
Tue May 15, 2012, 10:00 AM
May 2012

We seem to be slightly trailing in most major polls. We can knock the CBS/NYT poll, but CBS and the NYT are not exactly pro-Republican.

Of course, there is still plenty of time to turn things around, and of course, all that matters at the end of the day is the electoral vote count. But the Obama camp may need to step back and reassess its game plan a little bit.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
15. This
Tue May 15, 2012, 10:02 AM
May 2012

"We seem to be slightly trailing in most major polls. We can knock the CBS/NYT poll, but CBS and the NYT are not exactly pro-Republican."

...is what we can "knock': "However, the poll was conducted in a different way than most surveys..."

It's a bullshit poll.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
17. Maybe so, but....
Tue May 15, 2012, 11:40 AM
May 2012

....it doesn't help our campaign when people see these numbers and start thinking "Oh well, Obama is going down fast. Most women are supporting Romney even after all the hype about a 'war against women'...."

I haven't seen very many polls the last two weeks showing the president comfortably ahead.

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